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Old 03-22-2010, 02:02 AM   #1
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Klis: Broncos get another idea on what to do with Marshall
By Mike Klis
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The Charlie Whitehurst deal with the Seahawks might be the blueprint for the Broncos in trying to deal wide receiver Brandon Marshall. (Associated Press file photo )ORLANDO, Fla. — Through an undistinguished quarterback named Charlie Whitehurst, the Broncos may have found the answer to their Brandon Marshall dilemma.

Sign him. And trade him to Seattle.

Whitehurst was the rarest of commodities this NFL offseason. Even though he has but one 13-yard completed pass in his NFL career, the San Diego Chargers' third-string quarterback not only held the clipboard long enough to became eligible for restricted free agency, he became the most sought-after RFA of the offseason.

So much for the golden age of quarterbacks.

New Orleans running back Mike Bell is a restricted free agent who recently signed an offer sheet with Philadelphia, but because he was an undrafted rookie when he joined the Broncos in 2006, there is no draft-pick compensation involved.

The Seattle Seahawks nabbed Whitehurst after surrendering the equivalent of two third-round picks to San Diego. One of those third-round picks was converted into a 20-spot swap in the second round.

The Seahawks couldn't go the offer- sheet route for Whitehurst, in part because they didn't have the required third-round pick in the 2010 draft. But Seattle would have balked even if it did have a third-rounder because that would have meant offering the unproven quarterback a contract prohibitive enough to dissuade the Chargers from matching.

Instead, Seattle worked out a more affordable two-year, $8 million contract — the going rate for top-end backup QBs — with Whitehurst. The Chargers agreed not to match in return for swapping out the second-round picks in 2010 and a third-round pick in 2011.

Instead of picking No. 60 overall in the second round this year, San Diego now has Seattle's No. 40 overall slot.

For all this to happen, the Chargers had to sign Whitehurst to his modest, one-year, $1.1 million tender. Only after Whitehurst was officially under contract could the Chargers trade him.

The Whitehurst deal is significant because the Broncos now understand how Seattle is approaching restricted free agency. The Seahawks, remember, flew Marshall, a restricted free agent, in by seaplane for a visit March 6.

Two weeks later, the Seahawks still have not submitted an offer sheet to the Broncos' star receiver. Their interest in Marshall remains. But because the Broncos slapped a first-round tender on the receiver, Seattle would have to surrender its No. 6 overall draft pick to get him.

Clearly, the Seahawks consider the No. 6 overall pick too expensive for Marshall, especially if they also have to appease him with a contract far greater than $8 million over two years. Try $50 million over five.

The Seahawks are players in the restricted free-agent market, though. Whitehurst proved that. And Seattle does have another first-round draft choice available, No. 14 overall, which it received from the Broncos in last year's draft.

The Broncos could take that pick for Marshall. Or perhaps the Broncos would take Seattle's No. 60 pick in the second round and one of their two fourth-round picks.

Not until Marshall is assured he's moving on will he agree to sign his one-year, $2.521 million tender with the Broncos.

He never signs it if it means returning to the Broncos without an ensuing trade. .................................................. ......................



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Old 03-22-2010, 02:39 AM   #2
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Everybody seems to assume that Seattle are willing to offer #14 if only we'd accept it. As of now however there is no indication that they ARE prepared to offer this in a potential sign-and-trade.

Technically, #14 is less than we're entitled to from them, but it is still more than we could get from some other teams should someone else take him, so i can't believe a deal won't get done if Seattle are willing to offer that. So far, I get the impression they're trying to low-ball us with offers that do not include a first round pick of any description, hence the impasse.

I can't help but feel that if we're being intransigent, then that might be in part becuase we're genuinely happy to have him back,but whatever the situation, I cannot believe that no-one thought of offering the #14 before Klis suggested it.......
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Or perhaps the Broncos would take Seattle's No. 60 pick in the second round and one of their two fourth-round picks.
The #60 pick and a 4th rounder?!? For Marshall?!?

That has to be the single worst trade proposal I've ever seen.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:33 AM   #4
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It is starting to look like we aren't going to get a whole lot in compensation for BMarsh Bean. At this point, I'd be thrilled with the #14 pick. That would give us a lot of wiggle room in this draft. Spiller could easily be drafted just as we could easily move back 10-15 spots when a guy like Clausen falls.

The only thing that sucks for McD. He'd probably be pretty interested in Joe Haden at that #14 spot and that wouldn't look good for him at all.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:52 AM   #5
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Klis do us all a favour and retire.
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:10 AM   #6
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The #60 pick and a 4th rounder?!? For Marshall?!?

That has to be the single worst trade proposal I've ever seen.
Ditto. Thats fn robbery on seattles part. Marshall for a 1st or pay the man and sign him long term and keep him.
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:13 AM   #7
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If we do Marshall for #60 and a fourth rounder someone needs to get mushroom tattoo'd
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If we settle for less than a 1st rd pick we've been had
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Just keep him and pay the man
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:28 AM   #10
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Marshall for 60 and a fourth rounder That's the silliest **** I ever heard. They must think we are as dumb as the seahawks in trading! Why would we give up a 6-4 230 pound 25 yr old receiver thats top 5 in the league and in the prime of his career for a late second round pick and a fourth rounder?
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I'm sure the local media would love for us to do a trade like that, because it would give them plenty of opportunity to blast anyone and everyone involved for letting Marshall go for such a pittance. I guess thinking of things to write is tough in the offseason, so this will give them plenty to write about.
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:54 AM   #12
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Based on recent moves, my guess is Seattle will trade their #6 pick to the Vikings for John David Booty and their #14 pick to the Giants for Jared Lorenzen.
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The #60 pick and a 4th rounder?!? For Marshall?!?

That has to be the single worst trade proposal I've ever seen.
This!
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:35 AM   #14
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The only way that I could see us accept less than a 1st was if another player was involved. Seattle give us a guard or ILB along with the #60...outside of that...Klis is on crack!
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Fixed that for ya.
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Klis is a tard. I think McD has no problem bringing Bmarsh back. It's Bmarsh who has the problem of playing for the Broncos. See yah at training camp Brandon...
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Seriously, why can't Mcd be magnanimous and just give Marshall some money to shut him up and lets watch what happens. There isn't a deal to be made. If he screws up again it ain't the end of the world with no salary cap.
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Seriously, why can't Mcd be magnanimous and just give Marshall some money to shut him up and lets watch what happens. There isn't a deal to be made. If he screws up again it ain't the end of the world with no salary cap.
He was already offered a new contract by the Broncos last year and Bmarsh said no. This ain't on the Broncos, it's all on Bmarsh.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:26 AM   #19
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That contract was an insult and Marshall would have been crazy to sign, it even with his off field issues he deserves a better deal than the Broncos offered him.
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That contract was an insult and Marshall would have been crazy to sign, it even with his off field issues he deserves a better deal than the Broncos offered him.
What did the contract say, how was it structured, how much was guaranteed? I have a feeling it was pretty fair, all things considered. IMO, Bmarsh wanted to test the market to see if he could get something better. No other teams are playing and it's not like the Broncos are asking too much for him, he's definitely worth a first round pick.
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even with his off field issues he deserves a better deal than the Broncos offered him.
To this point, 31 other teams disagree with you.
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To this point, 31 other teams disagree with you.
No, 31 other teams don't think Marshall is worth a first round pick, his proposed contract has nothing to do with the lack of an offer sheet.
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No, 31 other teams don't think Marshall is worth a first round pick, his proposed contract has nothing to do with the lack of an offer sheet.
I would argue the EXACT opposite. And recent history is on my side. Roy Williams was worth a first and a third. Deion Branch was worth a first. I could go on.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:54 AM   #24
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This reminds me of the book "The Pearl." Remember when the dude finds the enormous pearl and all the shopkeepers try to rip him off by telling him that its worthles due to its size? Same deal.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:57 AM   #25
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No, 31 other teams don't think Marshall is worth a first round pick, his proposed contract has nothing to do with the lack of an offer sheet.
That's obviously not true.

If other teams weren't worried about offering him a big money contract with a lot of guaranteed money, they would be pounding down the door to get Marshall for a 1st.

Any team in the league that had any sort of need at WR would be stupid to draft a WR in the 1st over BMarsh if it weren't for the very real fear that they all have that they would give him a lot of money and he'd screw up again and get suspended. They would then be out all of that money. If another team could sign him to a RFA tender for a 1st, they would definitely do it. This situation has everything to do with contract demands and off-field issues. If those two things weren't in play, Marshall would be on another team by now, we could have probably gotten as much as a 1st and 2nd for him. It would also all be a moot point as we would be trying to keep him a bronco for life if it weren't for his contract/off-field issues.
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