The Cowboys committed robbery in the Brady trade. - The Orange Mane

Pony Boy · 03-18-2010, 03:13 PM

Ouch! Cleveland really got burned.......

Give Jerry Jones credit for convincing Cleveland to give up a pair of premium picks. It's the best trade he's made since Jimmy Johnson's days at Valley Ranch.

That's the case with the 2007 draft-day deal, aka the Brady Quinn Con Job.

The Cleveland Browns gave up on Quinn yesterday, when new management shipped the young quarterback to Denver for a fullback, a sixth-round pick and a conditional draft pick. That's what Cleveland has to show for the high 2007 second-rounder and 2008 first-rounder they gave the Cowboys for the right to draft Quinn with the No. 22 overall pick.

The Cowboys parlayed those picks into two guys who will be core pieces around these parts for a long time. They traded up to get OLB Anthony Spencer in 2007 and drafted Felix Jones with the No. 22 overall pick the next season, after the Browns had surprising success. Spencer and Jones performed like Pro Bowlers down the stretch last season, but they're still just scratching the surface of their potential.

Quinn might develop into a decent quarterback in Denver, but that won't benefit the Browns other than increasing the value of the conditional pick.

The Cowboys strongly considered drafting Quinn, who they ranked as a top-10 value. The reason they didn't is Tony Romo. They wisely figured they'd be better off with two young players who could make an impact instead of a guy who wore a cap and held a clipboard.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...looking-better

spdirty · 03-18-2010, 03:28 PM

Thats why Cleveland is Cleveland.

Hamrob · 03-18-2010, 03:40 PM

I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions.

You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

Pony Boy · 03-18-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

Thats why Cleveland is Cleveland.

We have Brady Quinn, Dallas has Felix Jones and Anthony Spencer and the Browns have Peyton Hillis....... I see a huge win for everyone.....

HILife · 03-18-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob

I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions.

You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

hhmmm I also heard people saying he was going to be a bust. I guess we will see.

Pony Boy · 03-18-2010, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob

I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions.

You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

I agree we got a hell of a deal, but I would trade Brady to Dallas for Jones and Spencer..........just saying Dallas made out like a bandit on this deal.

Jason7730 · 03-18-2010, 03:49 PM

It's all Josh's fault!!

ayjackson · 03-18-2010, 04:19 PM

I was thinking about that draft the other day. I think the Cowboys and us might have had consecutive picks (21 and 22?) in the first. We move up and took Jarvis Moss. The Cowboys moved back and took Anthony Spencer and Felix Jones.

It's why I hate moving up. There were a lot of guys in that Moss, Spencer, Abiamiri talent level in that draft and we got enamoured by one of them for some reason.

Swedish Extrovert · 03-18-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob

I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions.

You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

That's pretty much everything I've read about Quinn up to this point.

I really like the trade. Sucks to lose Hillis, but the way I see it, we gave up a 3rd/4th string running back in exchange for, at the very least, a solid backup QB with franchise potential.

WolfpackGuy · 03-18-2010, 05:39 PM

I believe the pick that became Kevin Kolb was linked to that trade.

TonyR · 03-18-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

I believe the pick that became Kevin Kolb was linked to that trade.

Yep, I think the Eagles traded back with the Cowboys. Gave the Cowboys their first, Cowboys took Spencer, Eagles took Kolb in early 2nd.

Kaylore · 03-18-2010, 07:27 PM

Whatever. The Browns got Peyton Hillis so it's pretty much a wash.

Chief Macho · 03-18-2010, 07:55 PM

Brady Quinn makes me embarrased to be a Bronco fan. Seriously, there's no defending this douche to my friends. I've been telling people I'm ordering Quinn half shirts.

Florida_Bronco · 03-18-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Macho

Brady Quinn makes me embarrased to be a Bronco fan. Seriously, there's no defending this douche to my friends. I've been telling people I'm ordering Quinn half shirts.

Quit being a drama queen.

Pool · 03-18-2010, 08:19 PM

Give Quinn a chance before throwing him under the bus.

broncocalijohn · 03-19-2010, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob

I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions.

You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

Probably the same thing was said about my high school classmate Rob Johnson.

watermock · 03-19-2010, 04:47 PM

I don't know why eveybody hates Quinn, he's not the TE, hate him.

Quinn is a stud.

Too bad Beavis has harmed the offense.

03-18-2010, 03:13 PM	#1
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,311 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	The Cowboys committed robbery in the Brady trade. Ouch! Cleveland really got burned....... Give Jerry Jones credit for convincing Cleveland to give up a pair of premium picks. It's the best trade he's made since Jimmy Johnson's days at Valley Ranch. That's the case with the 2007 draft-day deal, aka the Brady Quinn Con Job. The Cleveland Browns gave up on Quinn yesterday, when new management shipped the young quarterback to Denver for a fullback, a sixth-round pick and a conditional draft pick. That's what Cleveland has to show for the high 2007 second-rounder and 2008 first-rounder they gave the Cowboys for the right to draft Quinn with the No. 22 overall pick. The Cowboys parlayed those picks into two guys who will be core pieces around these parts for a long time. They traded up to get OLB Anthony Spencer in 2007 and drafted Felix Jones with the No. 22 overall pick the next season, after the Browns had surprising success. Spencer and Jones performed like Pro Bowlers down the stretch last season, but they're still just scratching the surface of their potential. Quinn might develop into a decent quarterback in Denver, but that won't benefit the Browns other than increasing the value of the conditional pick. The Cowboys strongly considered drafting Quinn, who they ranked as a top-10 value. The reason they didn't is Tony Romo. They wisely figured they'd be better off with two young players who could make an impact instead of a guy who wore a cap and held a clipboard. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...looking-better

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03-18-2010, 03:28 PM	#2
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,902 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Thats why Cleveland is Cleveland.

03-18-2010, 03:40 PM	#3
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,747 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I went back and looked at the scouting reports on Quinn...before the 2007 draft. It's interesting to see what was being said. He was a consensus top-10 pick by the gurus and he was primarily compared to Peyton Manning in terms of leadership and preparation. They also spoke highly of his arm strength...said he has a big arm. Additionally, they said that he's great in the pocket. The only knocks on him they had were accuracy when he was under pressure and the fact that he stood in the pocket too long and needed to get rid of the ball sooner on some occassions. You know...the fact that this kid was sentenced to Cleveland makes me think that we may just have gotten one hell of a deal!

03-18-2010, 03:49 PM	#7
Jason7730 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 399	It's all Josh's fault!!

03-18-2010, 04:19 PM	#8
ayjackson Pro Bowler Not so new to the forum Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 699 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I was thinking about that draft the other day. I think the Cowboys and us might have had consecutive picks (21 and 22?) in the first. We move up and took Jarvis Moss. The Cowboys moved back and took Anthony Spencer and Felix Jones. It's why I hate moving up. There were a lot of guys in that Moss, Spencer, Abiamiri talent level in that draft and we got enamoured by one of them for some reason.

03-18-2010, 05:39 PM	#10
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	I believe the pick that became Kevin Kolb was linked to that trade.

03-18-2010, 07:27 PM	#12
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,051 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Whatever. The Browns got Peyton Hillis so it's pretty much a wash.

03-18-2010, 07:55 PM	#13
Chief Macho Rookie New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 52 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Brady Quinn makes me embarrased to be a Bronco fan. Seriously, there's no defending this douche to my friends. I've been telling people I'm ordering Quinn half shirts.

03-18-2010, 08:19 PM	#15
Pool Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 54 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Give Quinn a chance before throwing him under the bus.

03-19-2010, 04:47 PM	#17
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I don't know why eveybody hates Quinn, he's not the TE, hate him. Quinn is a stud. Too bad Beavis has harmed the offense.