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Old 03-18-2010, 07:17 AM   #1
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Default John Clayton's take on the Marshall Situation (3/17/10)

Marshall update: With the New York Jets unlikely to jump in on a possible Brandon Marshall trade, the Seahawks remain the main team interested in the wideout, but Seattle will most likely wait until the second round of the draft to acquire him.

The Seahawks don't want to surrender a first-round pick. They would like to fill other needs with the No.6 and No.14 picks. The Broncos have the leverage now because they can look for another team to offer a first-rounder. If the first round of the draft passes without a Marshall trade, however, the leverage would shift to the Seahawks or other interested teams.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:19 AM   #2
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so here is a question, going on this theory and the Tebow thread

IF we traded Marshall for a couple of 2nd round picks to give us extra...would you be upset if we took Tebow and still addressed other needs in that round?
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:22 AM   #3
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Clayton in talking out of his ass shocker. Broncos have the leverage now and will have throughout this process unless someone comes up with a 1st rd pick tender offer.

Unless they do something horrendously stupid like giving away a top 5 WR for a 2nd rd pick.

There isn't one wideout close to being a No1 WR in this draft.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:22 AM   #4
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we dont need tebow.

anyways, i dont understand how our trade leverage switches to another team because the first round has passed? at that point i make it well known that proper compensation will be needed and a 2nd rounder isnt going to get it done
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It's like ESPN keeps forgetting that the Broncos don't have to trade Brandon Marshall.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:34 AM   #6
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3-13 is an idiot. This is the stupidest thing I've seen since the last time I paid any attention to Clayton.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:40 AM   #7
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The Broncos will KEEP Marshall before settling for 2nd rounders.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:43 AM   #8
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It's like ESPN keeps forgetting that the Broncos don't have to trade Brandon Marshall.
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It's like ESPN keeps forgetting that the Broncos don't have to trade Brandon Marshall.
yes, exactly
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The only leverage change here is the leverage the Broncos are gaining in contract negotiations with The Player.
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The only leverage change here is the leverage the Broncos are gaining in contract negotiations with The Player.
that is a good point too, after nobody offers anything worth looking at and we get past the draft, it's "so Brandon, let's talk market value"
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The only leverage change here is the leverage the Broncos are gaining in contract negotiations with The Player.
Exactly.

If even the Seahags had muttered contract numbers it would've been all over the media.
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I laugh at people who think we will have to trade Marshall for 2nd round pick/picks.
We don't have to do anything.
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so here is a question, going on this theory and the Tebow thread

IF we traded Marshall for a couple of 2nd round picks to give us extra...would you be upset if we took Tebow and still addressed other needs in that round?[/QUOTE]
yes,Tebow would be a wasted pick anywhere above the 3rd round.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:32 AM   #15
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Clayton in talking out of his ass shocker. Broncos have the leverage now and will have throughout this process unless someone comes up with a 1st rd pick tender offer.

Unless they do something horrendously stupid like giving away a top 5 WR for a 2nd rd pick.

There isn't one wideout close to being a No1 WR in this draft.
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Once the draft rolls around the Broncos are holding all the cards, since the deadline for offer sheets will have passed and we can trade Marshall if we please or not since no team can offer a poison pill contract.
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No to Tebow. I can't stand watching a southpaw at QB. Drives me nuts.
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Clayton in talking out of his ass shocker. Broncos have the leverage now and will have throughout this process unless someone comes up with a 1st rd pick tender offer.

Unless they do something horrendously stupid like giving away a top 5 WR for a 2nd rd pick.

There isn't one wideout close to being a No1 WR in this draft.
You are foolish to believe this. There hasn't been a SINGLE first-round RFA signed yet. No-one is giving out first round picks. Denver doesn't hold the cards, because EVERYONE knows that McD wants Brandon out of Denver... period.

The coach doesn't want him. He's not going to coach him next year. He's may say "we'll only accept a 1st" but everyone knows he's full of crap. We will end up with a 2nd round pick in this years draft, and probably a 3rd in next years draft.... and Marshall will be gone.
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Once the draft rolls around the Broncos are holding all the cards, since the deadline for offer sheets will have passed and we can trade Marshall if we please or not since no team can offer a poison pill contract.
Why can't a team offer a poison pill contract?
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If Denver is tired BM act I could see them trade BM for less then fans think. BM is a top WR and Denver should get great value but, I'm not very convinced Denver wants him anymore. I can see him shipped for 2nd rounders or players. I don't agree with it myself but, just because they say they will keep him doesn't mean they will. I'm still expecting BM gone by draft day.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:06 AM   #21
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McDaniels is too smart to trade Marshall for anything less than 1st round value. Now, that's not to say, that he wouldn't accept a 2nd rounder along with another player for Marshall.

Say, Tatupu and a 2nd...that would do it!
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Now after the Seahawks squired Charlie Whitehurst, all they need is a WR.
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McDaniels is too smart to trade Marshall for anything less than 1st round value. Now, that's not to say, that he wouldn't accept a 2nd rounder along with another player for Marshall.

Say, Tatupu and a 2nd...that would do it!
You mean like he was too smart to spend a 1st round on on Alphonso? or move up to get a blocking TE?

The problem is, McD may know Marshall is worth a 1st round pick, but he doesn't want him in Denver. He's going to agree to the BEST value he can get, THEN (here is the kicker)..THEN... he'll say "thats the most we could get for him"... and try to put the problem off on Marshall not having enough value in the NFL.

Everyone knows that Marshall won't be in Denver next season. Why would any team spend a 1st on him if they can get him for less?
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...EVERYONE knows that McD wants Brandon out of Denver... period.

The coach doesn't want him. He's not going to coach him next year. He's may say "we'll only accept a 1st" but everyone knows he's full of crap. We will end up with a 2nd round pick in this years draft, and probably a 3rd in next years draft.... and Marshall will be gone.
I hate to admit it but I think you're right. I think he gets traded on draft day and that we don't get a current year first round pick. Hopefully we get enough comp to make it palatable.
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You are foolish to believe this. There hasn't been a SINGLE first-round RFA signed yet. No-one is giving out first round picks. Denver doesn't hold the cards, because EVERYONE knows that McD wants Brandon out of Denver... period.

The coach doesn't want him. He's not going to coach him next year. He's may say "we'll only accept a 1st" but everyone knows he's full of crap. We will end up with a 2nd round pick in this years draft, and probably a 3rd in next years draft.... and Marshall will be gone.
This is complete speculation on your part unless you have some glimpse into McD's mind which im sure you don't. At this point, i expect him to be in a Broncos uniform next year and playing hard (because it does him no good to do anything else). If the broncos trade him for a second rounder, you'll hear me shouting loudest about how dumb it is.
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