the real news a lot of us have been waiting for - The Orange Mane

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 09:52 AM

Adam_Schefter
Of all the QBs now on Denver's roster, the one that might have the best chance of being a long-term answer is QB Tom Brandstater.

Adam_Schefter
RT @steveely42 Hope you expand on the Brandstater point ... Have just heard enough to think he has a chance -- a real chance -- to make it.
11 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 09:55 AM

to me, this means that schefter heard from within the organization that the team got a gem in brandstater. he is obviously a very smart person, who was working on his masters his final year of college. hes a bit older, but thats only a bad thing if it tkaes him 2-3 more years to develop, not a bad thing in that his maturity level is probably good.

hes got the physical tools to do everything on the field. quinn, well we didnt give much for him and hes a far, far better backup than simms, but i am wondering if we are really surprised by brandstater this year or next year.

oubronco · 03-15-2010, 09:56 AM

Only time will tell

gyldenlove · 03-15-2010, 09:57 AM

I have to say, doesn't surprise me much, of the 3 we have he is the most physically gifted and he didn't waste his formative years QB wise on a ****ty team. This is a guy who is learning the right way from good people.

Gort · 03-15-2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

to me, this means that schefter heard from within the organization that the team got a gem in brandstater. he is obviously a very smart person, who was working on his masters his final year of college. hes a bit older, but thats only a bad thing if it tkaes him 2-3 more years to develop, not a bad thing in that his maturity level is probably good.

hes got the physical tools to do everything on the field. quinn, well we didnt give much for him and hes a far, far better backup than simms, but i am wondering if we are really surprised by brandstater this year or next year.

Quinn seems like a knucklehead to me. he's a QB. he should not be bulking up his body to look like the incredible hulk. the same thing holds with a pitcher in baseball. those positions require flexibility and athleticism, not brawn. he seems to have put vanity in front of competency at his position.

TheDave · 03-15-2010, 10:00 AM

Trading for Quinn does not bode well for "Brandy"... If he really was the future, then the smart thing to do is let him battle Orton for the #1 job this year. Bringing in another potential #1 will only limit his reps in practice.

This isn't Schefter giving building up TB... It's a back hand at KO and BQ

TailgateNut · 03-15-2010, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

to me, this means that schefter heard from within the organization that the team got a gem in brandstater. he is obviously a very smart person, who was working on his masters his final year of college. hes a bit older, but thats only a bad thing if it tkaes him 2-3 more years to develop, not a bad thing in that his maturity level is probably good.

hes got the physical tools to do everything on the field. quinn, well we didnt give much for him and hes a far, far better backup than simms, but i am wondering if we are really surprised by brandstater this year or next year.

That's not giving him the credit he deserves. Cutler is also a better backup than Simms.

Schism · 03-15-2010, 10:02 AM

Mock would be a better backup than Simms, for crying out loud.

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Trading for Quinn does not bode well for "Brandy"... If he really was the future, then the smart thing to do is let him battle Orton for the #1 job this year. Bringing in another potential #1 will only limit his reps in practice.

This isn't Schefter giving building up TB... It's a back hand at KO and BQ

read schefters quotes again, he didnt say that quinn and orton suck, he said brandstater has a real chance to make it in this league.

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

Quinn seems like a knucklehead to me. he's a QB. he should not be bulking up his body to look like the incredible hulk. the same thing holds with a pitcher in baseball. those positions require flexibility and athleticism, not brawn. he seems to have put vanity in front of competency at his position.

just because youre bigger doesnt mean you are less flexible or athletic. especially when you are only quinns size, and hes not that big.

Gort · 03-15-2010, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

just because youre bigger doesnt mean you are less flexible or athletic. especially when you are only quinns size, and hes not that big.

it does actually adversely affect the throwing motion.

TonyR · 03-15-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

just because youre bigger doesnt mean you are less flexible or athletic. especially when you are only quinns size, and hes not that big.

I was going to say the same thing. Donovan McNabb, for example, has really bulked up since he entered the league.

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

it does actually adversely affect the throwing motion.

i really, really, really dont believe this, especially when you dont have gary valentino arms. its not like hes loading up with synthol every week, adding some size to your arms isnt going to negatively affect how you play the game.

TheDave · 03-15-2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

read schefters quotes again, he didnt say that quinn and orton suck, he said brandstater has a real chance to make it in this league.

"the one that might have the best chance of being a long-term answer is QB Tom Brandstater."

I did... IMO that isn't support for TB it's a no confidence vote on the other 2

Gort · 03-15-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

i really, really, really dont believe this, especially when you dont have gary valentino arms. its not like hes loading up with synthol every week, adding some size to your arms isnt going to negatively affect how you play the game.

it affects the range of arm motion. especially bulking up your lats and such. i knew some guys who played football in college but who had been baseball players when they were younger, and a couple of them told me they couldn't throw a baseball as well or as hard after bulking up for football. my background was in baseball mostly, so i always knew that stretch and flexibility mattered more than strength when throwing, though it's not bad to have a naturally strong throwing arm. throwing a football has got to be impacted the same way.

PRBronco · 03-15-2010, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

it does actually adversely affect the throwing motion.

Did Daryl Hackney throw funny? He's probably the most muscle-bound qb i've ever seen.

mr007 · 03-15-2010, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

it affects the range of arm motion. especially bulking up your lats and such. i knew some guys who played football in college but who had been baseball players when they were younger, and a couple of them told me they couldn't throw a baseball as well or as hard after bulking up for football. my background was in baseball mostly, so i always knew that stretch and flexibility mattered more than strength when throwing, though it's not bad to have a naturally strong throwing arm. throwing a football has got to be impacted the same way.

Umm this is true only if you don't work on your flexibility.

Just because you bulk up, doesn't mean you have to stop stretching etc. There are plenty of people with bulk who are just as flexible and even more so with those that aren't.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Gort · 03-15-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr007

Umm this is true only if you don't work on your flexibility.

Just because you bulk up, doesn't mean you have to stop stretching etc. There are plenty of people with bulk who are just as flexible and even more so with those that aren't.

You don't know what you're talking about.

thanks professor a-hole. i'll be sure to clear all future posts with you in advance.

mr007 · 03-15-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

thanks professor a-hole. i'll be sure to clear all future posts with you in advance.

I wasn't being an a-hole or suggesting that. You are saying bulk and amount of flexibility go hand in hand, which they do not.

LRtagger · 03-15-2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

Quinn seems like a knucklehead to me. he's a QB. he should not be bulking up his body to look like the incredible hulk. the same thing holds with a pitcher in baseball. those positions require flexibility and athleticism, not brawn. he seems to have put vanity in front of competency at his position.

This makes no sense at all. Just because the guy is cut up doesn't mean he is less flexible or mobile. Quite the contrary, actually.

The guy is 6'4" 235lbs. Not exactly so bulky he cant wipe his own ass. He just looks bigger because he has a low body fat percentage.

Jay Cutler is 6'3" and 233, but he's a chub. Everybody had a boner for how mobile and athletic he was and he was practically the same size as Quinn except more fat and less muscle.

Donovan McNabb is 6'2" and 240. He's got lots of muscle, but is still one of the more athletic QBs in the league even at his age.

Baseball and pitchers are completely irrelevant.

mr007 · 03-15-2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

thanks professor a-hole. i'll be sure to clear all future posts with you in advance.

And to Tsiguy's point, he isn't overly bulky. He pretty much has a perfect body for an athlete to maintain optimal strength combined with flexibility.

jhns · 03-15-2010, 10:29 AM

You all have been waiting for Shefter to tell you we keep trading for crap QBs? I thought that was obvious.

DBroncos4life · 03-15-2010, 10:32 AM

Tom Brandstater will be 26 in October and Brady Quinn will be 26 in October. Quinn wasn't brought in to fight for the number two job. If Quinn plays up to his hype coming out of college, Brandstater will never see the field.

TheDave · 03-15-2010, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Tom Brandstater will be 26 in October and Brady Quinn will be 26 in October. Quinn wasn't brought in to fight for the number two job. If Quinn plays up to his hype coming out of college, Brandstater will never see the field.

"Brandy" couldn't pass Simms on the depth chart... If that doesn't tell us something about his future I don't know what does.

tsiguy96 · 03-15-2010, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Tom Brandstater will be 26 in October and Brady Quinn will be 26 in October. Quinn wasn't brought in to fight for the number two job. If Quinn plays up to his hype coming out of college, Brandstater will never see the field.

age is one thing working against him, but tahts the thing, quinn has played in the league and the team has seen what he can do. brandstater is still a mystery, he could be a total stud if given the time to play or develop. will be interesting to see how they work on quinn and brandstater will keeping orton as starter.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

03-15-2010, 09:52 AM	#1
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	the real news a lot of us have been waiting for Adam_Schefter Of all the QBs now on Denver's roster, the one that might have the best chance of being a long-term answer is QB Tom Brandstater. Adam_Schefter RT @steveely42 Hope you expand on the Brandstater point ... Have just heard enough to think he has a chance -- a real chance -- to make it. 11 minutes ago via web Reply Retweet

03-15-2010, 09:55 AM	#2
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	to me, this means that schefter heard from within the organization that the team got a gem in brandstater. he is obviously a very smart person, who was working on his masters his final year of college. hes a bit older, but thats only a bad thing if it tkaes him 2-3 more years to develop, not a bad thing in that his maturity level is probably good. hes got the physical tools to do everything on the field. quinn, well we didnt give much for him and hes a far, far better backup than simms, but i am wondering if we are really surprised by brandstater this year or next year.

03-15-2010, 09:56 AM	#3
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	Only time will tell

03-15-2010, 09:57 AM	#4
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	I have to say, doesn't surprise me much, of the 3 we have he is the most physically gifted and he didn't waste his formative years QB wise on a ****ty team. This is a guy who is learning the right way from good people.

03-15-2010, 10:00 AM	#6
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Trading for Quinn does not bode well for "Brandy"... If he really was the future, then the smart thing to do is let him battle Orton for the #1 job this year. Bringing in another potential #1 will only limit his reps in practice. This isn't Schefter giving building up TB... It's a back hand at KO and BQ

03-15-2010, 10:02 AM	#8
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Mock would be a better backup than Simms, for crying out loud.

03-15-2010, 10:29 AM	#22
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	You all have been waiting for Shefter to tell you we keep trading for crap QBs? I thought that was obvious.

03-15-2010, 10:32 AM	#23
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,590	Tom Brandstater will be 26 in October and Brady Quinn will be 26 in October. Quinn wasn't brought in to fight for the number two job. If Quinn plays up to his hype coming out of college, Brandstater will never see the field.