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Old 03-08-2010, 02:58 AM   #1
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:40 AM   #2
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A late 1st is his value, I would guess.

In terms of his pure ability, he's worth a Top 5 pick and probably something on top of that.

But you just can't ignore the amount of concerns there are with the guy. At the end of the day, you really don't need an elite WR to win in the NFL, and it's not a position a guy can transform your team from like a great QB or RB can.

So giving up a really high pick (not to mention a huge contract) to a guy who has the question marks Brandon does over him isn't a smart move, IMO.
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Too bad Arkansas doesn't have a team.
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I wouldn't give a top 10 pick for Marshall just because of his off the field issues and conduct during last training camp. Giving a high draft choice and big money to a guy with maturity issues spells trouble.
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I wouldn't give a top 10 pick for Marshall just because of his off the field issues and conduct during last training camp. Giving a high draft choice and big money to a guy with maturity issues spells trouble.
I think that is Denver's position too - common sense really.
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I would do it in a second
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:10 AM   #8
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What you have to consider is how long he would last if he was on the board. Which is essentially the situation.

If Marshall was playing for the Giants (for example) and wanted out I bet people would want us to shift some picks for him.

I would give anything from 3 downwards for Marshall.
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I would do it in a second
Then you should find it interesting that out of 31 teams thus far not a single one has offerred up their first round pick for him. In other words, taking everything into consideration, you're overvaluing him.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:25 AM   #10
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Then you should find it interesting that out of 31 teams thus far not a single one has offerred up their first round pick for him. In other words, taking everything into consideration, you're overvaluing him.
Proven player versus crapshoot draft pick i'm taking the proven player
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Proven player versus crapshoot draft pick i'm taking the proven player
I understand the logic, and a lot of people agree with you. But clearly most/all NFL organizations feel differently. It's not the no-brainer many believe it is.
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Then you should find it interesting that out of 31 teams thus far not a single one has offerred up their first round pick for him. In other words, taking everything into consideration, you're overvaluing him.
That's an incorrect conclusion to make.

FA is less than a week old. Have some patience. It's not like anyone has offered a first, second or third round pick for any other RFA in the entire league right now. That doesn't mean no team values those RFAs any less than what they were tendered. It just means they are probably exploring all possible options before making any offer. What a shock.
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:08 AM   #13
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That's an incorrect conclusion to make.

FA is less than a week old. Have some patience. It's not like anyone has offered a first, second or third round pick for any other RFA in the entire league right now. That doesn't mean no team values those RFAs any less than what they were tendered. It just means they are probably exploring all possible options before making any offer. What a shock.
My thoughts exactly. We are GOING TO GET a 1st round pick for marshall if we decide not to keep him. End of story.
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That's an incorrect conclusion to make.
I agree with your overall point but at the same time I don't think my "conclusion" is at all "incorrect". I understand it's early. Sure somebody may end up paying a 1st round pick for Marshall. But there won't be teams lining up to acquire him. My overall point is that many/most people are overvaluing Marshall by looking only at his on field production and not looking at the big picture. If it was such a slam dunk somebody would have signed him to an offer sheet by now.
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Then you should find it interesting that out of 31 teams thus far not a single one has offerred up their first round pick for him. In other words, taking everything into consideration, you're overvaluing him.
That or teams are low balling us thinking he could be got for cheap.
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:29 AM   #16
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Boldin for a 3rd pretty much lets you know where Marshall's value is. Boldin is a tier below skillwise, recent injury concerns, and a bit older (4 years?). However Boldin doesn't have the maturity and suspension concerns, which has to count for something.

I'm guessing Boldin = 3rd then Marshal = high 2nd/Low first at best....
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Boldin for a 3rd pretty much lets you know where Marshall's value is. Boldin is a tier below skillwise, recent injury concerns, and a bit older (4 years?). However Boldin doesn't have the maturity and suspension concerns, which has to count for something.

I'm guessing Boldin = 3rd then Marshal = high 2nd/Low first at best....
If we don't get a first, then there is no point in moving him.
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:31 AM   #18
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We are a better team with him... much better. I just don't know if the coach and the player can co-exist.

As for the "Is he worth a top 10 pick?"

Absolutely, but NFL teams greatly over value draft picks, especially top 10 picks.

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If this doesn't send a clear statement to Marshall about the importance of staying clean and away from making the headlines for the wrong reasons, nothing will.I think he knows why he's not drawing a lot of attention. It's ultimately his own fault.I like Marshall the football player, but he has made some bonehead mistakes that have clealry affected his football career.
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We are a better team with him... much better. I just don't know if the coach and the player can co-exist.
They can if BM doesn't have anymore off the field incidents.
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They can if BM doesn't have anymore off the field incidents.
To the best of our knowledge, there was no problems with Brandon after the training camp punting incident.

Yet somehow he was benched for the last game... that tells me these two just may be oil & water
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If we don't get a first, then there is no point in moving him.
a high first at that
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If it was such a slam dunk somebody would have signed him to an offer sheet by now.
This has less to do with Marshall and more to do with the current state of the CBA. You can bet that if the CBA had been worked out and 2011 was good to go, Marshall (and at least 3/4 of the RFAs in the league) would've been signed either by us or someone else already.
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This has less to do with Marshall and more to do with the current state of the CBA.
Certainly a factor. Although for whatever reasons RFA's don't move very often, with the main reasons probably being that teams place high value on draft picks and many/most teams match offers to their RFA's. Check out this little factoid:

Competitors can try to pry away restricted free agents by giving up draft picks, but this rarely happens. There were 55 restricted free agents last season—none switched teams.

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He's a top 10 talent on the field with a 10 cent brain off the field.
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