Broncos sign Nathan Jones - The Orange Mane

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:24 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-nathan-jones/

Ramathorn · 03-05-2010, 06:24 PM

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:26 PM

Dolphins nickel corner

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6964

extralife · 03-05-2010, 06:26 PM

we sure do like the Miami secondary lately

what does this mean for Alphonso, really?

UberBroncoMan · 03-05-2010, 06:27 PM

Ha... ha... BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Dolphins just cut one of their Safety's too. Lets get the quad!

UberBroncoMan · 03-05-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

we sure do like the Miami secondary lately

what does this mean for Alphonso, really?

Means McDaniels made a mistake giving away the #14 pick in the best draft in the last ten years.

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:28 PM

I just hope there isn't another lame nickname like the browncos...

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan

Means McDaniels made a mistake giving away the #14 pick in the best draft in the last ten years.

Won't be able to get over that for awhile. Well, until we are once again a winning franchise. To me, that is the worst mistake he has made to date.

Hamrob · 03-05-2010, 06:29 PM

Not a bad pickup...the guy can play nickle or dime.

Hamrob · 03-05-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBroncos84

Won't be able to get over that for awhile. Well, until we are once again a winning franchise. To me, that is the worst mistake he has made to date.

Well...I wouldn't have let Cutler go...but this ranks right up there.

UberBroncoMan · 03-05-2010, 06:30 PM

Funniness with this aside.

Nate Jones doesn't actually look like a bad signing at all. I'm curious how fast he is though.

http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=JON636637

16 games with 4 starts.

10 pass deflections to go with 2 INT's and 2 FF's and a solid tackle rate. Even 1 sack.

He'll be 28 this season. So not 30+ like we've done with most signings.

UberBroncoMan · 03-05-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBroncos84

Won't be able to get over that for awhile. Well, until we are once again a winning franchise. To me, that is the worst mistake he has made to date.

It still is void of logic to me. It was so ****ing stupid.

I could understand he wanted to give him a year to grow in the NFL. But Alphonso Smith was a 24 year old rookie... now he's 25 this year.

With Champ and Goodman still starting, and this signing (looks like he was signed specifically for the nickle position) it seems the Smith pick was a complete waist.

Hell that undrafted CB outplayed Smith (name escapes me atm).

That #14 pick could have been HUGE for us this year.

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Well...I wouldn't have let Cutler go...but this ranks right up there.

Neither would I, I hated that trade. But an argument can be made that we got decent value out of it (in terms of pick compensation, we haven't proven success in what we used those picks for). But the alphonso trade, so far, looks horrific value wise.

I am supporting McD and giving him a chance, not trying to bash. All of this has been discussed. Just elaborating on my comment.

GoBroncos84 · 03-05-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan

It still is void of logic to me. It was so ****ing stupid.

I could understand he wanted to give him a year to grow in the NFL. But Alphonso Smith was a 24 year old rookie... now he's 25 this year.

With Champ and Goodman still starting, and this signing (looks like he was signed specifically for the nickle position) it seems the Smith pick was a complete waist.

Hell that undrafted CB outplayed Smith (name escapes me atm).

That #14 pick could have been HUGE for us this year.

Not only that, but if they really wanted Smith why not package picks in that draft and move up? Instead of making the trade to get Quinn, add another pick or player to move up further in the 2nd and get Smith rather than using a future 1st. I don't mind them being aggressive and getting someone they really want, but don't be stupid. Look at how NE manipulates the draft, he needs to learn from that.

gyldenlove · 03-05-2010, 06:42 PM

They are saying 4 years with a max value of 13.6 million so it looks like around 10 million over 4 years, not bad.

montrose · 03-05-2010, 07:08 PM

Alphonso's just not a nickel, Med went into detail about this. His skills are that of an outside, man-to-man CB. Smith, Goodman and Jones could make a nice trio of CBs for a the future.

The MVPlaya · 03-05-2010, 07:12 PM

This is not because of Alphonso Smith or anything to do with him - this is about gearing up for the Colts.

Goobzilla · 03-05-2010, 07:14 PM

Wait for it...

TDmvp · 03-05-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goobzilla

Wait for it...

TheDave · 03-05-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The MVPlaya

This is not because of Alphonso Smith or anything to do with him - this is about gearing up for the Colts.

Some of you fan boys would have a lot more credibility if you didn't say such stupid things.

This signing has everything to do with Smith and his lack of production last year. Now maybe he can still turn inyto a player, but at this point we are signing a FA to $3 mil a year to play his position.

521 1N5 · 03-05-2010, 07:24 PM

Dang that hurts my Eric Berry possibility...

Zoobie · 03-05-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

Some of you fan boys would have a lot more credibility if you didn't say such stupid things.

This signing has everything to do with Smith and his lack of production last year. Now maybe he can still turn inyto a player, but at this point we are signing a FA to $3 mil a year to play his position.

The Nickelback is not Smith's position, but okay.

montrose · 03-05-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

Some of you fan boys would have a lot more credibility if you didn't say such stupid things.

This signing has everything to do with Smith and his lack of production last year. Now maybe he can still turn inyto a player, but at this point we are signing a FA to $3 mil a year to play his position.

Yes and no Dave, I'm sure the Broncos would love for Smith to slide into the NB spot but Med's analysis (and Smith's play at camp) showed his skillset just doesn't lend itself well to the NB spot and he's more ideally suited to be an outside man-to-man CB. It would be awesome if he flourished as a NB but taking a guy who was a ballhawk in college playing man and asking him to cover veteran slot guys on option routes in zone coverage is just not ideal for a rookie.

Here's what Med had to say:

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

I just watched some old film of Smith at Wake when I was Watching Film on Brandon Ghee, just to compare them. Smith was a freaking Playmaker at Wake with a 21 INTS, 9 sacks, 23.5 tackles behind the line of scrimmage and eight forced fumbles for his career. He also could cover outside pretty damn well, but they did not use him in the slot very much, which could be why he did not play well there this past season.

This kid has a ton of natural talent to play CB, and it was not there last year for some reason. The real reason may be playing inside in so much space with a lot of Zone responsibilities. That was not why he was such a playmaker at Wake. He was a much better outside CB that really recognized routes and anticipated throws. I think he got lost inside trying to cover quicker and smarter players across zones with much more complicated route patterns game to game.

I am not sure how much he learned from that, but if he did, he can be a weapon there. The kid can blitz, makes solid tackles behind the LOS, and can cover. I just hope he learns quickly and can make the adjustments needed to play the slot at this level. I know he can play outside at this level, but that is not where they need him right now.

So, I'll take a chance on him and say he will break out this year. He was a playmaker outside in college, and I think he works hard enough to try and be one in the slot this year too.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...4&postcount=45

TheDave · 03-05-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Yes and no Dave, I'm sure the Broncos would love for Smith to slide into the NB spot but Med's analysis (and Smith's play at camp) showed his skillset just doesn't lend itself well to the NB spot and he's more ideally suited to be an outside man-to-man CB. It would be awesome if he flourished as a NB but taking a guy who was a ballhawk in college playing man and asking him to cover veteran slot guys on option routes in zone coverage is just not ideal for a rookie.

Here's what Med had to say:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...4&postcount=45

Sorry Montorse, but Med is taking a guess at why he sucked last year. Read what he said again...

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but they did not use him in the slot very much, which could be why he did not play well there this past season

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This kid has a ton of natural talent to play CB, and it was not there last year for some reason

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The real reason may be playing inside

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I think he got lost inside

Now, I'm beyond carring why he sucked... and to be honest it looks like the coaches are too.

Regardless of why he is having trouble in the NFL we just signed ANOTHER corner that as of today is ahead of him on the depth chart...

KipCorrington25 · 03-05-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoobie

The Nickelback is not Smith's position, but okay.

True, we need a higher denomination of coin for Smith to get on the field, maybe the Silver Dollar Back, only plays if there are 100 DB's needed.

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GoBroncos84 Perennial Pro-bowler Crucify the Ego Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 758 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Broncos sign Nathan Jones http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-nathan-jones/

03-05-2010, 06:26 PM	#3
GoBroncos84 Perennial Pro-bowler Crucify the Ego Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 758 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Dolphins nickel corner http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6964

03-05-2010, 06:26 PM	#4
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,917	we sure do like the Miami secondary lately what does this mean for Alphonso, really?

03-05-2010, 06:27 PM	#5
UberBroncoMan Your Local Nostradamus 2013... the year of Sci-Fi! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,529 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Ha... ha... BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dolphins just cut one of their Safety's too. Lets get the quad!

03-05-2010, 06:28 PM	#7
GoBroncos84 Perennial Pro-bowler Crucify the Ego Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 758 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I just hope there isn't another lame nickname like the browncos...

03-05-2010, 06:29 PM	#9
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,747 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Not a bad pickup...the guy can play nickle or dime.

03-05-2010, 06:30 PM	#11
UberBroncoMan Your Local Nostradamus 2013... the year of Sci-Fi! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,529 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Funniness with this aside. Nate Jones doesn't actually look like a bad signing at all. I'm curious how fast he is though. http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=JON636637 16 games with 4 starts. 10 pass deflections to go with 2 INT's and 2 FF's and a solid tackle rate. Even 1 sack. He'll be 28 this season. So not 30+ like we've done with most signings.

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gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	They are saying 4 years with a max value of 13.6 million so it looks like around 10 million over 4 years, not bad.

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montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Alphonso's just not a nickel, Med went into detail about this. His skills are that of an outside, man-to-man CB. Smith, Goodman and Jones could make a nice trio of CBs for a the future.

03-05-2010, 07:12 PM	#17
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	This is not because of Alphonso Smith or anything to do with him - this is about gearing up for the Colts.

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Goobzilla Lights Out B*h! BA-ZING!!** Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wellington Posts: 6,526 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mitch Erickson	Wait for it...

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521 1N5 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 970	Dang that hurts my Eric Berry possibility...