Kirk Morrison is very available - 3rd round tender - Martindale's product - The Orange Mane

The MVPlaya · 03-03-2010, 04:13 PM

Kirk Morrison is very available

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2010 6:23 PM ET

Stanford Routt felt the Raiders love Wednesday despite starting only one game last year.

Middle linebacker Kirk Morrison, who has led the team in tackles for five straight seasons, was not so lucky. Adam Schefter reports the team extended an "original pick" tender to Morrison, meaning any interested team would only have to give up a third-rounder if they signed him away.

Make no mistake, the Raiders would love for that to happen.

Morrison is due $2.5 million next season and would have made the exact same money if he got the second round tender. (It's explained well here by the Oakland Tribune.)

Essentially, the Raiders placed a lower tender on Morrison despite no financial savings. They wanted to create the highest chance for a trade and knew no one would give up a second-round pick for him

Morrison could get an offer sheet, and then everyone's happy. If not, he'll have to return to a team he knows didn't want him back.

UPDATE: The Raiders tendered linebacker Ricky Brown at a second-round level. He was an undrafted player, so they needed to go that high to keep him.

The MVPlaya · 03-03-2010, 04:15 PM

Don't be surprised if Broncos make a run for Kirk. Not sure if he fits the 3-4 scheme or if he's what Broncos are looking for, but remember that Martindale pretty much groomed him from day 1.

6-2 240 pounds doesn't sound bad for a ILB here...

SportinOne · 03-03-2010, 04:27 PM

someone will definitely do it but i don't think it will be us.

lostknight · 03-03-2010, 04:39 PM

From my point of view, we need depth at the Corners and massive help at the line. Not sure LB is where we should be adding capital. This guy is probably a very good buy, but we have too many needs on both sides of the ball.

broncos-rock · 03-03-2010, 04:43 PM

I saw that Gabe Watson from Arizona was tendered at 2nd round. What about him?

Drek · 03-03-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lostknight

From my point of view, we need depth at the Corners and massive help at the line. Not sure LB is where we should be adding capital. This guy is probably a very good buy, but we have too many needs on both sides of the ball.

He's still pretty young and has been an above average starter in the NFL for his entire career, never having less than 100 combined tackles in a season, even as a rookie.

A 3rd is a stupidly low price for him. I could definitely see us going after him as opposed to using a pick in that range for an ILB project.

2KBack · 03-03-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Drek

He's still pretty young and has been an above average starter in the NFL for his entire career, never having less than 100 combined tackles in a season, even as a rookie.

A 3rd is a stupidly low price for him. I could definitely see us going after him as opposed to using a pick in that range for an ILB project.

I agree, I was hoping we would pick up a solid ILB in this draft anyway. Morrison would be a safe and cheap route for that, and Denver would get a guy who has already proven to be a player in the nfl.

Crushisback · 03-03-2010, 05:11 PM

Patriots may jump on this one. They're load with mid round picks. Morrison and Mayo would be a real nice pair in the middle.

Crushisback · 03-03-2010, 05:17 PM

This would be Win Win for us. Giving the Raiders a draft pick is like giving a dog a Bike.

Victor · 03-03-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushisback

This would be Win Win for us. Giving the Raiders a draft pick is like giving a dog a Bike.

That is very funny...but it could happen.

Florida_Bronco · 03-03-2010, 05:59 PM

I'd happily pull the trigger on this.

Br0nc0Buster · 03-03-2010, 06:04 PM

I am confused why the tender is so low

I would easily pull the trigger on that deal
He is young, and he is pretty good
He might have to pack on a bit more bulk to take over SILB for Davis or after he leaves, but I dont see why he couldnt make the transition

Wow I hope the Broncos give Morrison a look

Br0nc0Buster · 03-03-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by broncos-rock

I saw that Gabe Watson from Arizona was tendered at 2nd round. What about him?

We have a pretty high 2nd, I would prefer to just keep the pick

The MVPlaya · 03-03-2010, 06:07 PM

Kirk Morrison has also started every game in his career.

Last year he had dislocated his shoulder in the pre-season and it was in doubt if he was going to make it to the opener and he did...

bowtown · 03-03-2010, 07:03 PM

I would love to give our 3rd for Morrison.

broncos-rock · 03-03-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

We have a pretty high 2nd, I would prefer to just keep the pick

But would you trade Scheffler for him?

broncosteven · 03-03-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostknight

From my point of view, we need depth at the Corners and massive help at the line. Not sure LB is where we should be adding capital. This guy is probably a very good buy, but we have too many needs on both sides of the ball.

I think we have more than adquate depth at CB unless Smith is a total bust. Hell the UDFA who started the last game (or 2?) played well for a nickel. I think Safety depth is Ok if McBath makes some progress this year.

We need a stud NT, and at least one more DL that can collapse the pocket and hold up vs the run.

Another ILB would be nice to have as Davis never really was a very good coverage LB, after teams started looking for the A gap blitz he disappeared.

I think our woes are at C, LG, RT(at least depth wise if Harris is healty) WR, QB.

sirhcyennek81 · 03-03-2010, 07:20 PM

I am starting to wonder if Harris would be a better fit inside at RG, shift Kuper to LG, and we look for a RT and C through FA or the draft.

Br0nc0Buster · 03-03-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by broncos-rock

But would you trade Scheffler for him?

yes

Br0nc0Buster · 03-03-2010, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

I am starting to wonder if Harris would be a better fit inside at RG, shift Kuper to LG, and we look for a RT and C through FA or the draft.

Harris at guard?
He is too finesse
I would prefer to move Kuper to LG and try out Olsen at RG and keep Harris at RT

broncosteven · 03-03-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

I am starting to wonder if Harris would be a better fit inside at RG, shift Kuper to LG, and we look for a RT and C through FA or the draft.

Our line was much better until Harris went down. Kuper had a BU RT, an ageing C who was the 1st cut playing next to him. No wonder he got beat a couple times a this year.

I hope they find a decent Vet to play C and see if Olsen can beat out Hock out at LG (and draft for G depth) and then see about some Depth incase Harris continues to have health issues.

Ziggy · 03-03-2010, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncosteven

Our line was much better until Harris went down. Kuper had a BU RT, an ageing C who was the 1st cut playing next to him. No wonder he got beat a couple times a this year.

I hope they find a decent Vet to play C and see if Olsen can beat out Hock out at LG (and draft for G depth) and then see about some Depth incase Harris continues to have health issues.

Hochstien is an UFA. Even if he is re-signed, he may not be ready for training camp. The LG position is Olsen's to lose right now.

Rohirrim · 03-03-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushisback

This would be Win Win for us. Giving the Raiders a draft pick is like giving a dog a Bike.

I agree. Jump on this. A starter for a third round pick? No brainer.

Florida_Bronco · 03-03-2010, 08:38 PM

The more I think about this, the more I think this is a great idea. Between Morrison and Davis we'd have a very good combo for the SILB position and that would free us up to spend our first rounder on a linemen rather than Rolando McClain.

broncos-rock · 03-03-2010, 08:55 PM

Raiders give long snapper a second round tender

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2010 10:45 PM ET
The Raiders capped a mystifying day the only way they know how: By giving their long-snapper a second round tender via Fed Ex.

Okay, so Jon Condo is a Pro Bowler. David White of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that Condo will make $1.759 million if he signs the tender, more than three times his previous salary.

This is a rare care of the uncapped year rules helping a player make more money. But it's still crazy that Condo got the same tender as the team's presumptive starting quarterback, and a higher tender than their starting middle linebacker. He's no Stanford Routt, though.

In all, the Raiders have committed $7.134 million in salary to four special teamers for 2010.

This just keeps getting weirder and weirder!

03-03-2010, 04:13 PM	#1
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Kirk Morrison is very available - 3rd round tender - Martindale's product Kirk Morrison is very available Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2010 6:23 PM ET Stanford Routt felt the Raiders love Wednesday despite starting only one game last year. Middle linebacker Kirk Morrison, who has led the team in tackles for five straight seasons, was not so lucky. Adam Schefter reports the team extended an "original pick" tender to Morrison, meaning any interested team would only have to give up a third-rounder if they signed him away. Make no mistake, the Raiders would love for that to happen. Morrison is due $2.5 million next season and would have made the exact same money if he got the second round tender. (It's explained well here by the Oakland Tribune.) Essentially, the Raiders placed a lower tender on Morrison despite no financial savings. They wanted to create the highest chance for a trade and knew no one would give up a second-round pick for him Morrison could get an offer sheet, and then everyone's happy. If not, he'll have to return to a team he knows didn't want him back. UPDATE: The Raiders tendered linebacker Ricky Brown at a second-round level. He was an undrafted player, so they needed to go that high to keep him. Last edited by The MVPlaya; 03-03-2010 at 04:16 PM..

03-03-2010, 04:15 PM	#2
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Don't be surprised if Broncos make a run for Kirk. Not sure if he fits the 3-4 scheme or if he's what Broncos are looking for, but remember that Martindale pretty much groomed him from day 1. 6-2 240 pounds doesn't sound bad for a ILB here... Last edited by The MVPlaya; 03-03-2010 at 04:19 PM..

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03-03-2010, 04:27 PM	#3
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,439	someone will definitely do it but i don't think it will be us.

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lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	From my point of view, we need depth at the Corners and massive help at the line. Not sure LB is where we should be adding capital. This guy is probably a very good buy, but we have too many needs on both sides of the ball.

03-03-2010, 04:43 PM	#5
broncos-rock Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,286	I saw that Gabe Watson from Arizona was tendered at 2nd round. What about him?

03-03-2010, 05:11 PM	#8
Crushisback Camp fodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 491	Patriots may jump on this one. They're load with mid round picks. Morrison and Mayo would be a real nice pair in the middle.

03-03-2010, 05:17 PM	#9
Crushisback Camp fodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 491	This would be Win Win for us. Giving the Raiders a draft pick is like giving a dog a Bike.

03-03-2010, 05:59 PM	#11
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	I'd happily pull the trigger on this.

03-03-2010, 06:04 PM	#12
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs Superbowl or Bust Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,466	I am confused why the tender is so low I would easily pull the trigger on that deal He is young, and he is pretty good He might have to pack on a bit more bulk to take over SILB for Davis or after he leaves, but I dont see why he couldnt make the transition Wow I hope the Broncos give Morrison a look

03-03-2010, 06:07 PM	#14
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Kirk Morrison has also started every game in his career. Last year he had dislocated his shoulder in the pre-season and it was in doubt if he was going to make it to the opener and he did...

03-03-2010, 07:03 PM	#15
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	I would love to give our 3rd for Morrison.

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sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,772 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	I am starting to wonder if Harris would be a better fit inside at RG, shift Kuper to LG, and we look for a RT and C through FA or the draft.

03-03-2010, 08:38 PM	#24
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	The more I think about this, the more I think this is a great idea. Between Morrison and Davis we'd have a very good combo for the SILB position and that would free us up to spend our first rounder on a linemen rather than Rolando McClain.

03-03-2010, 08:55 PM	#25
broncos-rock Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,286	Raiders give long snapper a second round tender Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2010 10:45 PM ET The Raiders capped a mystifying day the only way they know how: By giving their long-snapper a second round tender via Fed Ex. Okay, so Jon Condo is a Pro Bowler. David White of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that Condo will make $1.759 million if he signs the tender, more than three times his previous salary. This is a rare care of the uncapped year rules helping a player make more money. But it's still crazy that Condo got the same tender as the team's presumptive starting quarterback, and a higher tender than their starting middle linebacker. He's no Stanford Routt, though. In all, the Raiders have committed $7.134 million in salary to four special teamers for 2010. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder!