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Old 03-03-2010, 12:40 PM   #1
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Default Orton, Kuper and Scheffler receive tenders. (Marshall receives first-round tender!)

Just read it on the Post.

Orton, a first. Kuper, a first. Scheffler, a second-round designation, not a same-round, so he gets more cash.

Marshall receives a first-round tender.

Dumervil a first and third.

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Old 03-03-2010, 12:42 PM   #2
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Cool. Cool? Cool!

I'm not fully understanding all these tenders and such with no cap, so can someone please explain which 'Cool' reaction I should go with. Also, I like both Orton and Kuper a lot and want them back, so that should help. haha
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:44 PM   #3
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Fusion, the tenders are just the compensatory amount the Broncos would receive if a team is interested in signing them away from the team as RFA's for their services. We can invoke the right of first refusal, and match any offer that the other team would be willing to give to acquire the players services. Thus, if someone wanted to sign away Kuper or Orton from us, they would have to give up a first-rounder. It is likely that neither will happen. The same goes for Scheffler, but I think him moving would be more likely out of any of them.

I'm not sure how the current CBA works into all of this, but from my knowledge, that is how things operate.
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All of them make sense. I would rather see Kuper get a long term deal now but I also don't really understand how that all works if there is a lockout after next year. That probably a factor.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:45 PM   #5
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Is there a limit to 1st round tenders?


I believe there are two 'Franchise' tags this year for most teams.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:45 PM   #6
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The Broncos tender to Scheffler included roughly $600,000 in goodwill. Because Scheffler was drafted in the second round in 2006, the Broncos could have designated him as a “same round” restricted free agent, which would have given him a $1.176 million salary. Instead, the Broncos designated him as a “second round” tender which guarantees him a $1.759 million.

Interesting. Sounds like they actually want to keep him. I'm surprised.
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Is there a limit to 1st round tenders?
Nope. They can give it to all RFAs if they wanted.
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Marshall a 1st round tender. Per Adam Schefter on ESPN Sportscenter
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:47 PM   #9
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Is there a limit to 1st round tenders?


I believe there are two 'Franchise' tags this year for most teams.
I don't think so. At any case, if we cannot reach deals with Marshall and Dumervil by the 5th, I fully expect a first and a third tender to be applied to each of them.
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I wonder why they haven't tendered BMarsh or Doom?
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Requim, thank you. That is what I was figuring.
Interesting that they would want to keep Shef. Is this simply b/c he is pretty decent and cheaper than signing a TE of his 'caliber'?
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Very, very interesting. Just a first? Might be the Broncos way of trying to see how many people are willing to give up a first by signing him, and then using right of first refusal to match and then dish him for more if there is immense interest.
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Hopefully, this means that Doom get's his long term contract, and we get something if/when Marshall decided to leave.
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This one doesn't make sense unless they are just seeing if someone will give us a first for him. The contract that goes with this is probably not very good. I don't see our problems with Marshall going away without either trading him or paying him like a top 3 receiver.
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Requim, thank you. That is what I was figuring.
Interesting that they would want to keep Shef. Is this simply b/c he is pretty decent and cheaper than signing a TE of his 'caliber'?
The value we're getting Scheffler at this year would be much less than us going out in free agency in finding a replacement. I'm actually surprised they gave him the second-round tender. They could have slapped him with the original round tender and given him 600,000 less dollars (he was a second rounder) less, but as the Post indicates, perhaps this is a gesture of goodwill and an olive branch towards better relations down the road.
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This one doesn't make sense unless they are just seeing if someone will give us a first for him. The contract that goes with this is probably not very good. I don't see our problems with Marshall going away without either trading him or paying him like a top 3 receiver.
I'm surprised as well they only placed a 1st round tender on him, as opposed to a 1st and a 3rd.
Basically they're saying, come and get him.
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This one doesn't make sense unless they are just seeing if someone will give us a first for him. The contract that goes with this is probably not very good. I don't see our problems with Marshall going away without either trading him or paying him like a top 3 receiver.
If I'm any of these players, I am decently pissed, but it's not a personal thing. The question of if Brandon or Josh has the maturity to shut up to the media about it, is uncertain to me.
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Very, very interesting. Just a first? Might be the Broncos way of trying to see how many people are willing to give up a first by signing him, and then using right of first refusal to match and then dish him for more if there is immense interest.
That is what they are doing. Let someone else give him a contract. Let them set the market for him. If they decide to keep him, good. If they don't like the contract, let him go.
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This one doesn't make sense...
It clearly states that they intend to get rid of him. No other logical reason.
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This one doesn't make sense unless they are just seeing if someone will give us a first for him. The contract that goes with this is probably not very good. I don't see our problems with Marshall going away without either trading him or paying him like a top 3 receiver.
My initial thoughts is that Denver wants to gauge interest at teams who are willing to sign him at the first-round level of compensation. I expect them to match the offers, and then come up with a deal accordingly. If there is multiple teams interested in his services, that'd allow a bidding war to begin for him. Those are my thoughts.

In the back of my mind, us allowing him to sign with another team through the RFA process would be an easier PR thing to do than trading a player of his caliber again, especially after how divided people were in regards to the Cutler deal. Maybe that's too much speculation, but who knows. That is why we are all here.
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Basically they're saying, come and get him.
Yup, exactly.
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That is what they are doing. Let someone else give him a contract. Let them set the market for him. If they decide to keep him, good. If they don't like the contract, let him go.
Very well stated, Casper. Thanks a bunch for the info.
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i think this means bmarsh is a goner, why not give him the highest tender? doesn't make sense
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This is exactly what it means, they are willing to unload Marshall in a trade but they won't trade for anything less than a 1st. They are not going to lowball themselves. It's a 1st or denver keeps him.
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