I doubt we draft Dez Bryant - The Orange Mane

JCMElway · 03-01-2010, 07:23 PM

Just saw this tidbit on yahoo. No way McDaniels puts up with someone like this. (If this has already been posted feel free to merge!

INDIANAPOLIS – Former Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant is emerging as the favorite for the most dubious title in the NFL Draft.

Three sources with direct knowledge of Bryant from his days in college, where he missed the final 10 games last season because of lying to NCAA investigators, said Bryant’s antics were “consistently irresponsible.”

Bryant is expected to be a first-round pick in April. Some draftniks have predicted that he will go in the top 10, although the consensus appears to be the top 15. Whoever takes him does so at their own peril.

“I wouldn’t draft that kid unless I had someone to wake him up in the morning to get to meetings, someone to wake him up for practice and someone to wake him up for games,” one source said.

A second source said Bryant’s reputation was earned because he was consistently late to team activities. That included showing up late for games.

“We’re not just talking about being a little late for warmups, but like being late for the actual game,” a source said with a chuckle. “When you start to hear some of the stories of there, you go, ‘He did what?’ ”

Bryant recently defended himself against questions about his past by claiming he is a “great person” in an interview with NFL Network. While that may be a stretch, his episodes of irresponsible behavior aren’t considered malicious.

“Dez isn’t evil, he’s not trying to hurt anybody. He’s just goofy,” another source said. “But it does make you think, ‘If he’s like this in college, what’s it going to be like when he gets paid?’ ”

The NCAA investigation of Bryant initially revolved around illicit benefits Bryant received while in college. Among the items the NCAA examined were cell phones Bryant had for himself and his girlfriend that were being paid for by another party, although Bryant claimed he paid cash to the other person.

The investigation eventually led to a 10-game ban by Oklahoma State when Bryant lied to NCAA investigators about his interactions with former NFL star and current NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders.

Pony Boy · 03-01-2010, 07:37 PM

Dez Bryant is not working out at the Combine after tweaking his hamstring last week. ...
Wow, deja vu alll over again.....

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 03-01-2010, 07:41 PM

I doubted it from the beginning, but with this information it looks even less likely.

Of course, this is the same kind of crap that led to Randy Moss slipping a long way... fell all the way out of the top 20.

Taco John · 03-01-2010, 07:48 PM

Even if we lost Brandon Marshall, I have doubts that we'd use a first round pick on a WR. I'd think we'd either go LB or DL.

SoDak Bronco · 03-01-2010, 07:52 PM

I agree this probably removes him from our list of players unless his need/upside outweighs the concerns in the minds of McD and X. I really like Sean Witherspoon in the 2nd round for our ILB of the future.

DomCasual · 03-01-2010, 09:19 PM

What is it with wide receivers?

strafen · 03-01-2010, 09:49 PM

We shouldn't have to draft a WR in the 1st round.
We have more pressing needs than a WR.
That's JMO...

ZONA · 03-01-2010, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragster69

We shouldn't have to draft a WR in the 1st round.
We have more pressing needs than a WR.
That's JMO...

I agree. Plus, we got a better WR then Dez and we got him in the 5th round several years ago.

strafen · 03-01-2010, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZONA

I agree. Plus, we got a better WR then Dez and we got him in the 5th round several years ago.

We can't afford to go two years in a row and not get an impact defensive player.
At 11th the odds are in our favor...

Popps · 03-01-2010, 11:53 PM

Josh McDaniels:

[ ] Wants another head-case WR to deal with.

chrisp · 03-02-2010, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

I doubted it from the beginning, but with this information it looks even less likely.

Of course, this is the same kind of crap that led to Randy Moss slipping a long way... fell all the way out of the top 20.

I think that sometimes the guys with these kinds of question marks need to drop a little to give them some motivation.

Top-ten picks get so much money I honestly think its a de-motivating factor: they're set up for life, why put any more effort in? When they slip in the draft they don't get the same guaranteed money (although they still get a lot) but more importantly they get that slap in the face that they're not considered top-tier, top-drawer talent.

Look at Jamarcus Russell - I mean, while he's starting and earning a king's ransom just for going through the motions, how can he not think he's already 'made it'?

People think that maybe teams 'missed' in Randy Moss becuase he turned ot to be so explosive, bu perhaps he's an a-hole from day one if he goes in the top ten? As it was he played with a chip on his shoulder...

Dudeskey · 03-02-2010, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

What is it with wide receivers?

something about them had Matt Millen coming back year after year

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 03-02-2010, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp

I think that sometimes the guys with these kinds of question marks need to drop a little to give them some motivation.

Top-ten picks get so much money I honestly think its a de-motivating factor: they're set up for life, why put any more effort in? When they slip in the draft they don't get the same guaranteed money (although they still get a lot) but more importantly they get that slap in the face that they're not considered top-tier, top-drawer talent.

Look at Jamarcus Russell - I mean, while he's starting and earning a king's ransom just for going through the motions, how can he not think he's already 'made it'?

People think that maybe teams 'missed' in Randy Moss becuase he turned ot to be so explosive, bu perhaps he's an a-hole from day one if he goes in the top ten? As it was he played with a chip on his shoulder...

Well said, and very accurate. As for Jabba the Russell... Yeah, he thinks he's already made it because he has. He's just waiting for his contract to be up so he can take his money and open up a ****load of Krispy Kreme stores, then eat himself out of business.

Rohirrim · 03-02-2010, 06:51 AM

90% of the mocks I've seen have the Broncos taking Dez. Aint gonna happen.

Rabb · 03-02-2010, 06:54 AM

A lot of people knocked Harvin last year also, that worked out ok

oubronco · 03-02-2010, 06:57 AM

No to Dez Bryant and Yes to Dan Williams

TheDave · 03-02-2010, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I agree this probably removes him from our list of players unless his need/upside outweighs the concerns in the minds of McD and X. I really like Sean Witherspoon in the 2nd round for our ILB of the future.

If we want Weatherspoon were going to have to use #11 to get him... I think his performance at the combine assured him as a top 20 selection.

cmhargrove · 03-02-2010, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oubronco

No to Dez Bryant and Yes to Dan Williams

I live in Oklahoma and am an Oklahoma State fan, and I still don't want us to draft Dez. I mean, he is a great player, but just not worth a #11 pick when we still need so much help on the lines.

I would rather take Dan Williams, or even Trent Williams at #11, because both would probably influence the game more than Dez at this point.

If Dez is one the board and someone really wants him - trade down. We could do really well with a low first rounder and another second round pick.

ColoradoBuff · 03-02-2010, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I agree this probably removes him from our list of players unless his need/upside outweighs the concerns in the minds of McD and X. I really like Sean Witherspoon in the 2nd round for our ILB of the future.

I don't think Spoon gets past Pittsburgh or New Orleans in the 1st round. Would love to have a second pick in the 20's in case he is there.

Triplelefthook · 03-02-2010, 07:58 AM

never understood the "draft gurus" predicting us to draft Bryant. i certainly didn't know how they could predict this BEFORE Marshall got traded. And if you are making the assumption that Marshall is going to be traded then your mock should include two first rounders for denver.

picking at 11, there are only two real options for us imo - Dan Williams or Mike Iupati. Sign a Center in FA, draft another one in the later rounds. Take care of our tranches RIGHT NOW when there is the perfect draft class to address our needs.

Rohirrim · 03-02-2010, 08:09 AM

Judging by Xanders' interview, and how he stated that character issues would be a top priority, I doubt Dez Bryant is even on their list.

strafen · 03-02-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRabb

A lot of people knocked Harvin last year also, that worked out ok

Yeah, I remember reading people's comments about him.
He's had a good rookie season.
The problem is, WR wasn't a priority for us last year, and it's again not this year...

Rabb · 03-02-2010, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragster69

Yeah, I remember reading people's comments about him.
He's had a good rookie season.
The problem is, WR wasn't a priority for us last year, and it's again not this year...

agree

Crushaholic · 03-02-2010, 09:49 AM

Dez Bryant will cause more headaches than he is worth...

Baba Booey · 03-02-2010, 10:50 AM

McClain or Williams

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03-01-2010, 07:23 PM	#1
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	I doubt we draft Dez Bryant Just saw this tidbit on yahoo. No way McDaniels puts up with someone like this. (If this has already been posted feel free to merge! INDIANAPOLIS – Former Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant is emerging as the favorite for the most dubious title in the NFL Draft. Three sources with direct knowledge of Bryant from his days in college, where he missed the final 10 games last season because of lying to NCAA investigators, said Bryant’s antics were “consistently irresponsible.” Bryant is expected to be a first-round pick in April. Some draftniks have predicted that he will go in the top 10, although the consensus appears to be the top 15. Whoever takes him does so at their own peril. “I wouldn’t draft that kid unless I had someone to wake him up in the morning to get to meetings, someone to wake him up for practice and someone to wake him up for games,” one source said. A second source said Bryant’s reputation was earned because he was consistently late to team activities. That included showing up late for games. “We’re not just talking about being a little late for warmups, but like being late for the actual game,” a source said with a chuckle. “When you start to hear some of the stories of there, you go, ‘He did what?’ ” Bryant recently defended himself against questions about his past by claiming he is a “great person” in an interview with NFL Network. While that may be a stretch, his episodes of irresponsible behavior aren’t considered malicious. “Dez isn’t evil, he’s not trying to hurt anybody. He’s just goofy,” another source said. “But it does make you think, ‘If he’s like this in college, what’s it going to be like when he gets paid?’ ” The NCAA investigation of Bryant initially revolved around illicit benefits Bryant received while in college. Among the items the NCAA examined were cell phones Bryant had for himself and his girlfriend that were being paid for by another party, although Bryant claimed he paid cash to the other person. The investigation eventually led to a 10-game ban by Oklahoma State when Bryant lied to NCAA investigators about his interactions with former NFL star and current NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders.

03-01-2010, 07:37 PM	#2
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,297 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	Dez Bryant is not working out at the Combine after tweaking his hamstring last week. ... Wow, deja vu alll over again.....

03-01-2010, 07:48 PM	#4
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Even if we lost Brandon Marshall, I have doubts that we'd use a first round pick on a WR. I'd think we'd either go LB or DL.

03-01-2010, 07:52 PM	#5
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	I agree this probably removes him from our list of players unless his need/upside outweighs the concerns in the minds of McD and X. I really like Sean Witherspoon in the 2nd round for our ILB of the future.

03-01-2010, 09:19 PM	#6
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	What is it with wide receivers?

03-01-2010, 09:49 PM	#7
strafen Karma Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,928 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elway	We shouldn't have to draft a WR in the 1st round. We have more pressing needs than a WR. That's JMO...

03-01-2010, 11:53 PM	#10
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Josh McDaniels: [ ] Wants another head-case WR to deal with.

03-02-2010, 06:51 AM	#14
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,822	90% of the mocks I've seen have the Broncos taking Dez. Aint gonna happen.

03-02-2010, 06:54 AM	#15
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,255 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	A lot of people knocked Harvin last year also, that worked out ok

03-02-2010, 06:57 AM	#16
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,588	No to Dez Bryant and Yes to Dan Williams

03-02-2010, 07:58 AM	#20
Triplelefthook Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 678 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	never understood the "draft gurus" predicting us to draft Bryant. i certainly didn't know how they could predict this BEFORE Marshall got traded. And if you are making the assumption that Marshall is going to be traded then your mock should include two first rounders for denver. picking at 11, there are only two real options for us imo - Dan Williams or Mike Iupati. Sign a Center in FA, draft another one in the later rounds. Take care of our tranches RIGHT NOW when there is the perfect draft class to address our needs.

03-02-2010, 08:09 AM	#21
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,822	Judging by Xanders' interview, and how he stated that character issues would be a top priority, I doubt Dez Bryant is even on their list.

03-02-2010, 09:49 AM	#24
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,041	Dez Bryant will cause more headaches than he is worth...

03-02-2010, 10:50 AM	#25
Baba Booey twitter: @dpieza HURRY HURRY! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North of the Wall Posts: 2,047 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	McClain or Williams