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Old 02-25-2010, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default Does Josh still want Cassel?

Keep in mind this is Kiper that we are talking about, but ESPN is full of this rumor and Kiper has been reporting it like crazy.

If Jimmy Clausen is there at KC's 5th pick(which he should be), KC will trade Cassel to Denver for a 2nd round pick.

Kinda makes sense. Josh gets his QB and Weis gets his. I don't see this happening, but I would die laughing if this did happen.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:23 AM   #2
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Seems like a reach to me, honestly. Guess we'll see.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:24 AM   #3
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The mane would explode if this happened.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM   #4
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holy cow that would seriously be awesome. JUST for the pure fact that many heads around here would explode haha.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM   #5
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We would trade for a guy who was worth less than a 2nd round pick last year and didn't exactly shine for a 2nd round pick plus take over one of the worst contracts in the NFL?

I don't know where they get this stuff but it is better than epic beard and Amber Lamps.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:30 AM   #6
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The big problem in this scenario is that Cassel makes way too much money, or did KC already pay a lot of it out upfront?
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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If thats the case, why would denver give up a second rounder? KC backed themselves into a corner, what are the chances they will want to give 8 mil a year or whatever it is to a back up
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:31 AM   #8
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The big problem in this scenario is that Cassel makes way too much money, or did KC already pay a lot of it out upfront?
It's frontloaded, so yes
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:35 AM   #10
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It's frontloaded, so yes
So if KC already paid a lot of the bill I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility. But a 2nd round pick is probably too high even though he'd be better in Denver than he was in KC.
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Chiefs QB Matt Cassel on hot seat soon?


Is QB Matt Cassel safe with the Chiefs? For now, yes. But remember, Kansas City’s price for Cassel wasn’t a cache of picks. It was simply the 34th selection in 2009 (with Mike Vrabel also coming over), and while the financial cost was steep, the Chiefs will have to make a decision... on Cassel next year at this time, when a $7.5 million option bonus is due. Kansas City maintains it is committed to the ex-Patriot, but this bears watching

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I feel like this thread will keep me entertained for the rest of the work day...
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:41 AM   #15
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Cassel sucks, we are better off with Orton

If we have a chance to get a top rookie qb though I would like that
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:42 AM   #16
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Cassel sucks, we are better off with Orton

If we have a chance to get a top rookie qb though I would like that
Are you kidding me right now?

Out of all QB's in the league other than Brady - Cassell would be the smoothest transition.

His mobility alone makes him better than Orton.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:43 AM   #17
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Why would we give a 2nd for a QB who didn't even fetch a 2nd by himself a year ago, and since has lost stock and gained a huge contract?
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Who in the hell is Mel Kiper, anyway? I mean, here's a guy who criticizes everybody, whoever they take. In my knowledge of him, he's never even put on a jockstrap, he's never been a player, he's never been a coach, he's never been a scout, he's never been an administrator, and all of a sudden, he's an expert. Mel Kiper has no more credentials to do what he's doing than my neighbor, and my neighbor's a postman and he doesn't even have season tickets to the NFL.
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Are you kidding me right now?
which part?
That Cassel sucks and we are better off keeping our draft picks and Orton or that we should take a qb if we have the chance to get an elite one?

I might remind you I live in Kansas, I have seen all Cassel's games with the Chiefs, I know how good/bad he is better than most
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A 2nd doesn't make sense. Cassel's value is much lower than that right now.

Why trade him to a division rival and a coach who he has had moderate success before? Seems to me KC should draft a QB, have him compete with Cassel this year and dump Cassel next year before that option bonus is due.
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which part?
That Cassel sucks and Orton is better or that we should take a qb if we have the chance to get an elite one?

I might remind you I live in Kansas, I have seen all Cassel's games with the Chiefs, I know how good/bad he is better than most
Cassell is a system QB - his transition to KC obviously wasn't good.. you can blame that on the horrible WR's, etc.

It's the same argument as putting Joe Montana on another team - he could possibly not be nearly as good because of the system.

We don't have the chance to get an "elite" QB right now.

And who knows where Cassell was headed if he stuck with this system for another year or so...
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Why trade him to a division rival and a coach who he has had moderate success before?
That's another good point, unless of course they think they're fleecing us.
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A 2nd doesn't make sense. Cassel's value is much lower than that right now.

Why trade him to a division rival and a coach who he has had moderate success before? Seems to me KC should draft a QB, have him compete with Cassel this year and dump Cassel next year before that option bonus is due.
MODERATE success. For a backup QB in COLLEGE and in the NFL coming in and what he did is moderate success?

The only thing moderate is the Chargers after the regular season - and "moderate" is actually overrating the Chargers after the regular season.
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Why would we give a 2nd for a QB who didn't even fetch a 2nd by himself a year ago, and since has lost stock and gained a huge contract?
Although as discussed above KC has already paid a big chunk of it up front. So money may not be an issue. I agree that a 2nd is too much but you do have to stop and consider what the price is for a starting QB.
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