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Old 02-22-2010, 01:58 PM   #1
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With LT being released, and Mike Klis' recent piece that some "name" Broncos could be released; who might be gone during this uncapped year that gives teams an opportunity to do away with large contracts? Here are some candidates:

Daniel Graham
Brandon Stokley
Jarvis Moss
LaMont Jordan
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:59 PM   #2
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I hope Simms gets cut. In fact, he should have been cut already. EFF that guy. EFF him in his A.
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:01 PM   #3
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There is little reason to cut players who don't have roster bonuses due now, may as well keep them through the offseason and see how they do.

LT had a massive roster bonus due so he had to go.
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I bet Graham restructures. Stokely might as well. The rest I are addition by subtraction.
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Simms is the only sure fire cut out of those
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:12 PM   #6
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There is little reason to cut players who don't have roster bonuses due now, may as well keep them through the offseason and see how they do.
This.

And there is no reason to cut guys like Simms or Jordan, unless they're beaten out in camp, since their contracts are up after this season.
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Reality would suggest that Simms isn't worth a roster spot
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Hopefully Graham restructures.
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:17 PM   #9
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ALL those guys probably get cut or restructure. What's Buckhalters number this year? DJ's? Lots of dudes making more money than their production warrants. Champ?
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:17 PM   #10
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I thought Simms was signed for a 3 year deal?
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:26 PM   #11
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Daniel Graham
Brandon Stokley
Jarvis Moss
LaMont Jordan
Chris Simms
I would agree with this list other than Graham. He is pretty important to our blocking. Unless we completely fix the line, we are going to need him. That is, unless Quinn got good or we don't plan on using a TE in any formation. He is expensive though and I could see us asking him to restructure.
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Graham doesn't need to restructure and cutting him would be dumb.
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Hamilton... or is his contract up?
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Ben's a UFA.
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Hamilton... or is his contract up?
I believe it's up, I'd expect retirement, Houston or Washington. I'm interested to see what happens - I'd love for all of those guys (sans Simms) to be back. I think Graham is a very important piece to our team but I'd imagine he's being paid pretty well for a blocking TE while Stokley is an awesome backup WR but he can't play special teams and I believe is making $1.4 million. It should be interesting.
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The only players due decent bonuses this offseason are

Champ $3m
Graham $700k
Stokes $600k
Moss $250k
1st rd picks from 2008 and 2009 who's bonuses were never broken down publicly.

Last time I checked we only have about $60m tied up in payroll for 2010 which is one of the lowest in the league. If you compare that to the likes of Dallas, who have $103m or so tied up or even Washington with almost double what we have approx $119m.

There'll be a lot of other releases outside the Mile High city this year.

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I believe it's up, I'd expect retirement, Houston or Washington. I'm interested to see what happens - I'd love for all of those guys (sans Simms) to be back. I think Graham is a very important piece to our team but I'd imagine he's being paid pretty well for a blocking TE while Stokley is an awesome backup WR but he can't play special teams and I believe is making $1.4 million. It should be interesting.
I agree with the exception of simms no one should let go... having said that there will be a major cut tomorrow.
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The only players due decent bonuses this offseason are

Champ $3m
Graham $700k
Stokes $600k
Moss $250k
1st rd picks from 2008 and 2009 who's bonuses were never broken down publicly.

Last time I checked we only have about $60m tied up in payroll for 2010 which is one of the lowest in the league. If you compare that to the likes of Dallas, who have $103m or so tied up or even Washington with almost double what we have approx $119m.

There'll be a lot of other releases outside the Mile High city this year.
True but seems like most of our key guys need new contracts so the 60 mil is a deceiving number. How many players under contract for that 60 mil?
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With LT being released, and Mike Klis' recent piece that some "name" Broncos could be released; who might be gone during this uncapped year that gives teams an opportunity to do away with large contracts? Here are some candidates:

Daniel Graham
Brandon Stokley
Jarvis Moss
LaMont Jordan
Chris Simms
I would be surprised to see Stokely back.

Graham I am guessing 50-50 depending on how our 2nd round pick last year is doing as a blocking TE

Moss should be gone and I hope we draft a true 3-4 LB.

Jordan, dunno depends on his lockeroom value.

Simms was bad, unless mCd saw something he shouldn't let the door hit him on the way out.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:46 PM   #21
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Tying up Doom, Marshall, Orton and Kuper I would imagine are going to eat into that low yearly payroll...
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:58 PM   #22
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I think Simms is getting a bad rap here. He actually has a decent arm, and he is not inexperienced. He did not have a very good year at all, and I am actually surprised how poorly things went for him when he was in. The issues that plagued Orton plagued Simms even moreso.

He had not played for two years, and he was very rusty. Moreover, he was trying to learn a system he had not played at all before, a complex one at that. Since Orton got the most practice time so that he could learn the system,Simms actually had very little opportunity to practice, and certainly not in games conditions. In short, he was having a second "rookie" year. I would not be surprised if there were gigantic differences this year from last in his play and his understanding of the Offense. He would also benefit from a decent fix to the Oline just as Orton would.

I am not defending the poor play. But I do suggest that his total dismissal may be a bit premature. He has had some success in the NFL before he was hurt. Sometimes I think it is better to give a guy a chance than to just simply kick him to the curb.

Consequently, I don't think he will be - or even should be - dismissed until after the FA period and/or the Draft, and certainly not until after the OTAs through the summer. There is one more year left on his deal, and I think a degree of patience is needed.

Graham should be back. Hamilton was "let go" after his demotion, and I think Moss is likely gone if a FA or a Draft pick can be found. Jordon might stay of Hillis is deemed expendable.
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The fact Simms wasn't cut mid season and replaced by a stuffed bear suit is a knock on Josh's coaching.
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I noticed you were not a coach.........

Good thing, too.......
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True but seems like most of our key guys need new contracts so the 60 mil is a deceiving number. How many players under contract for that 60 mil?
41 not including futures players.
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