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Old 12-07-2014, 12:19 PM   #1
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Only ten members of Congress opposed this wacko bill -- even though Americans oppose arming Ukraine by a two-one margin.

Ron Paul is correct to call this one of the worst bills ever passed by Congress. MHG

Reckless Congress ‘Declares War’ on Russia

By Ron Paul

December 06, 2014 "ICH" -
Today the US House passed what I consider to be one of the worst pieces of legislation ever. H. Res. 758 was billed as a resolution “strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination.”
In fact, the bill was 16 pages of war propaganda that should have made even neocons blush, if they were capable of such a thing.

These are the kinds of resolutions I have always watched closely in Congress, as what are billed as “harmless” statements of opinion often lead to sanctions and war. I remember in 1998 arguing strongly against the Iraq Liberation Act because, as I said at the time, I knew it would lead to war. I did not oppose the Act because I was an admirer of Saddam Hussein – just as now I am not an admirer of Putin or any foreign political leader – but rather because I knew then that another war against Iraq would not solve the problems and would probably make things worse. We all know what happened next.

That is why I can hardly believe they are getting away with it again, and this time with even higher stakes: provoking a war with Russia that could result in total destruction!

If anyone thinks I am exaggerating about how bad this resolution really is, let me just offer a few examples from the legislation itself:

The resolution (paragraph 3) accuses Russia of an invasion of Ukraine and condemns Russia’s violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. The statement is offered without any proof of such a thing. Surely with our sophisticated satellites that can read a license plate from space we should have video and pictures of this Russian invasion. None have been offered. As to Russia’s violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, why isn’t it a violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty for the US to participate in the overthrow of that country’s elected government as it did in February? We have all heard the tapes of State Department officials plotting with the US Ambassador in Ukraine to overthrow the government. We heard US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland bragging that the US spent $5 billion on regime change in Ukraine. Why is that OK?

The resolution (paragraph 11) accuses the people in east Ukraine of holding “fraudulent and illegal elections” in November. Why is it that every time elections do not produce the results desired by the US government they are called “illegal” and “fraudulent”? Aren’t the people of eastern Ukraine allowed self-determination? Isn’t that a basic human right?

The resolution (paragraph 13) demands a withdrawal of Russia forces from Ukraine even though the US government has provided no evidence the Russian army was ever in Ukraine. This paragraph also urges the government in Kiev to resume military operations against the eastern regions seeking independence.

The resolution (paragraph 14) states with certainty that the Malaysia Airlines flight 17 that crashed in Ukraine was brought down by a missile “fired by Russian-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine.” This is simply incorrect, as the final report on the investigation of this tragedy will not even be released until next year and the preliminary report did not state that a missile brought down the plane. Neither did the preliminary report – conducted with the participation of all countries involved – assign blame to any side.

Paragraph 16 of the resolution condemns Russia for selling arms to the Assad government in Syria. It does not mention, of course, that those weapons are going to fight ISIS – which we claim is the enemy – while the US weapons supplied to the rebels in Syria have actually found their way into the hands of ISIS!

Paragraph 17 of the resolution condemns Russia for what the US claims are economic sanctions (“coercive economic measures”) against Ukraine. This even though the US has repeatedly hit Russia with economic sanctions and is considering even more!

The resolution (paragraph 22) states that Russia invaded the Republic of Georgia in 2008. This is simply untrue. Even the European Union – no friend of Russia – concluded in its investigation of the events in 2008 that it was Georgia that “started an unjustified war” against Russia not the other way around! How does Congress get away with such blatant falsehoods? Do Members not even bother to read these resolutions before voting?

In paragraph 34 the resolution begins to even become comical, condemning the Russians for what it claims are attacks on computer networks of the United States and “illicitly acquiring information” about the US government. In the aftermath of the Snowden revelations about the level of US spying on the rest of the world, how can the US claim the moral authority to condemn such actions in others?

Chillingly, the resolution singles out Russian state-funded media outlets for attack, claiming that they “distort public opinion.” The US government, of course, spends billions of dollars worldwide to finance and sponsor media outlets including Voice of America and RFE/RL, as well as to subsidize “independent” media in countless counties overseas. How long before alternative information sources like RT are banned in the United States? This legislation brings us closer to that unhappy day when the government decides the kind of programming we can and cannot consume – and calls such a violation “freedom.”

The resolution gives the green light (paragraph 45) to Ukrainian President Poroshenko to restart his military assault on the independence-seeking eastern provinces, urging the “disarming of separatist and paramilitary forces in eastern Ukraine.” Such a move will mean many more thousands of dead civilians.

To that end, the resolution directly involves the US government in the conflict by calling on the US president to “provide the government of Ukraine with lethal and non-lethal defense articles, services, and training required to effectively defend its territory and sovereignty.” This means US weapons in the hands of US-trained military forces engaged in a hot war on the border with Russia. Does that sound at all like a good idea?

There are too many more ridiculous and horrific statements in this legislation to completely discuss. Probably the single most troubling part of this resolution, however, is the statement that “military intervention” by the Russian Federation in Ukraine “poses a threat to international peace and security.” Such terminology is not an accident: this phrase is the poison pill planted in this legislation from which future, more aggressive resolutions will follow. After all, if we accept that Russia is posing a “threat” to international peace how can such a thing be ignored? These are the slippery slopes that lead to war.

This dangerous legislation passed today, December 4, with only ten (!) votes against! Only ten legislators are concerned over the use of blatant propaganda and falsehoods to push such reckless saber-rattling toward Russia.

Here are the Members who voted “NO” on this legislation. If you do not see your own Representative on this list call and ask why they are voting to bring us closer to war with Russia! If you do see your Representative on the below list, call and thank him or her for standing up to the warmongers.

Voting “NO” on H. Res. 758:

1) Justin Amash (R-MI)
2) John Duncan (R-TN)
3) Alan Grayson, (D-FL)
4) Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
5) Walter Jones (R-NC)
6) Thomas Massie (R-KY)
7) Jim McDermott (D-WA)
8 George Miller (D-CA)
9) Beto O’Rourke (D-TX)
10 Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)

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Did you vote for Ron Paul when you had the chance Gaff.
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I never had the chance. The Media marginalized RP at a critical moment in his campaign when he was on the verge of breaking through --

They used the same tactic on him the idiots on this board use on me -- the anti semitic smear job.

At the time RP's supporters like Taco kept quiet -- they never fought for their candidate. It was all lies -- rubbish -- RP is an egalitarian individual -- not bigoted in any way.

But it worked. They weakened him just enough.

Now look at the result of our terminally dysfunctional political system -- with a dead media that never reports anymore -- only spews propaganda.

Arming the neo Nazis in Ukraine is a prescription for nuclear war. No mistake about it. MHG
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I never had the chance. The Media marginalized RP at a critical moment in his campaign when he was on the verge of breaking through --

They used the same tactic on him the idiots on this board use on me -- the anti semitic smear job.

At the time RP's supporters like Taco kept quiet -- they never fought for their candidate. It was all lies -- rubbish -- RP is an egalitarian individual -- not bigoted in any way.

But it worked. They weakened him just enough.

Now look at the result of our terminally dysfunctional political system -- with a dead media that never reports anymore -- only spews propaganda.

Arming the neo Nazis in Ukraine is a prescription for nuclear war. No mistake about it. MHG
You are a war monger. You come here declaring most every event as a prelude to war. Iran, Iraq, Russia the list goes on.

You're not well, Gaffney, get some help.
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Never saw what made RP popular. He's a more conservative republican. Libertarians are conservatives too embarrassed to call themselves republicans.
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der gaffenfuehrer is sticking to his misanthropic impotence with a heaping helping of death-worship on top.
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Never saw what made RP popular. He's a more conservative republican. Libertarians are conservatives too embarrassed to call themselves republicans.
RP was an egalitarian which made him an attractive candidate to left wingers -- even people who preferred Kucinich.

The last time we had a left wing candidate was George McGovern's anti war candidacy in 1972.

This nation has gone way way right -- not because the people have moved right as much as because we've had a coup by the War Machine, the military industrial complex.

But that's the history. In the moment, RP is spot on now with this analysis. This is the reality we face -- not a pretty picture. MHG
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Russia Has Western Enemies, Not Partners
By Paul Craig Roberts

December 06, 2014 "ICH"
- The US House of Representatives has joined Hillary Clinton, Obama, the neoconservatives, Washington’s vassals, and the American and European presstitutes in demonizing Russia and President Putin. The House resolution against Russia is a packet of lies, but that did not stop the resolution from passing by a vote of 411 for and 10 against.

The entire world should take note that the American people are capable of electing only ten intelligent representatives. Ten people out of 435 is 2 percent. And yet Washington declares itself to be the “exceptional,” “indispensable” country empowered to exercise hegemony over the world!

No one should be surprised to see Washington, its presstitutes and European vassal states using the same propagandistic lies against Russia and Putin as were used against Iraq and Saddam Hussein, Libya and Gaddafi, Syria and Assad, Afghanistan and the Taliban, and Iran. Washington is fearful of the rise of Russia and China, of the leadership demonstrated by Vladimir Putin, of the formation of new organizations independent of Washington, such as the BRICS. While the George W. Bush regime was sidetracked by its “six week, $70 billion war,” which turned out to be, so far, a multi-trillion dollar 13-year losing operation, Putin kicked out some of the American agents who were contaminating Russian sovereignty and rebuilt the country.

When Putin blocked the planned US invasions of Syria and Iran, Washington decided that something had to be done about Putin and Russia. Washington had spent $5 billion dollars buying Ukrainian politicians and funding fifth column NGOs. With Putin distracted with the Olympics, Washington struck, overthrew the elected Ukrainian government and installed its puppets.

The puppets set about antagonizing Ukraine’s Russian population in provinces that formerly were part of Russia but were attached to Ukraine by Soviet leaders when Russia and Ukraine were the same country. Russians threatened with death and the banning of their language naturally did not want to be victims of Washington’s puppet government in Kiev. Crimea voted to reunite with Russia from whence it came, and so did the eastern and southern provinces.

Washington and its the vassals and presstitutes lied and described these acts of self-determination as Russian invasion and annexation. Russia is falsely accused of having troops occupying the breakaway provinces.

The purpose of Washington’s false accusations is to destabilize Russia and the country’s government. Washington has many avenues by which to destabilize Russia. Washington has the US funded NGOs, the foreign owned Russian media, and the House Resolution calls for Washington to expand propaganda broadcasting into Russia in the Russian language. Washington has cultivated oligarchs, business interests and Russian politicians who see their economic and political interests aligned with the West. There are deluded Russian youths who think freedom resides in the West and others represented by such as p***Y Riot who prefer the West’s amoralism or immoralism to the Christian culture that the Russian government supports.

If Washington fails to destabilize Russia or to have Putin assassinated, frustration could result in more reckless behavior that could lead to military conflict. The House Resolution calls on Obama to arm Ukraine with US weapons so that Ukraine can conquer the separatist provinces and take back Crimea. There are constant calls from NATO itself for more military forces on Russia’s borders, and NATO war games are conducted near Russia’s borders. Washington wants to include the former Russian provinces of Georgia and Ukraine in NATO, something that Russia cannot accept.

Washington is placing the world on the path to Armageddon, as Professor Michel Chossudovsky makes clear in “Towards A World War III Scenario” (Global Research, 2012).

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In the 1980 s Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra Gate stories. MHG

Ukraine’s Made-in-USA Finance Minister
December 5, 2014

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A top problem of Ukraine has been corruption and cronyism, so it may raise eyebrows that new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko, an ex-U.S. diplomat and newly minted Ukrainian citizen, was involved in insider dealings while managing a $150 million U.S. AID-backed investment fund, writes Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry

Ukraine’s new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko, a former U.S. State Department officer who was granted Ukrainian citizenship only this week, headed a U.S. government-funded investment project for Ukraine that involved substantial insider dealings, including $1 million-plus fees to a management company that she also controlled.

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im waiting for the war on CHRISTMAS. i got my mistletoes ready to launch and i got candy cane shanks too. ne of you b****es wanna come at me. ill stab you with a candy cane
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In another terrific piece, Diane Johnstone explains that the US seeks to open up Ukraine shale deposits with fracking - -and cut Russia out of the gas equation.

As she also points out, the new Cold War is much more dangerous than the old Cold War because in those days the operative rule was MAD -- mutually assured destruction. Both sides understood that a nuclear war could not be won.

The problem is that US elites today think they won the Cold War -- and so can win again -- even if nukes come into play.

We have gone from mad to madness. MHG

DECEMBER 09, 2014

Frack the EU!


Washington’s Frozen War Against Russia

by DIANA JOHNSTONE

For over a year, the United States has played out a scenario designed to (1) reassert U.S. control over Europe by blocking E.U. trade with Russia, (2) bankrupt Russia, and (3) get rid of Vladimir Putin and replace him with an American puppet, like the late drunk, Boris Yeltsin.

The past few days have made crystal clear the perfidy of the economic side of this U.S. war against Russia.

It all began at the important high-level international meeting on Ukraine’s future held in Yalta in September 2013, where a major topic was the shale gas revolution which the United States hoped to use to weaken Russia. Former U.S. energy secretary Bill Richardson was there to make the pitch, applauded by Bill and Hillary Clinton. Washington hoped to use its fracking techniques to provide substitute sources for natural gas, driving Russia out of the market. This amounts to selling Europe a pig in a poke.


But this trick could not be accomplished by relying on the sacrosanct “market”, since fracking is more costly than Russian gas extraction. A major crisis was necessary in order to distort the market by political pressures. By the February 22 coup d’état, engineered by Victoria Nuland, the United States effectively took control of Ukraine, putting in power its agent “Yats” (Arseniy Yatsenyuk) who favors joining NATO. This direct threat to Russia’s naval base in Crimea led to the referendum which peacefully returned the historically Russian peninsula to Russia. But the U.S.-led chorus condemned the orderly return of Crimea as “Russian military aggression”. This defensive move is trumpeted by NATO as proof of Putin’s intention to invade Russia’s European neighbors for no reason at all.

Meanwhile, the United States’ economic invasion has gone largely unnoticed.

Ukraine has some of the largest shale gas reserves in Europe. Like other Europeans, Ukrainians had demonstrated against the harmful environmental results of fracking on their lands, but unlike some other countries, Ukraine has no restrictive legislation. Chevron is already getting involved.

As of last May, R. Hunter Biden, son of the U.S. Vice President, is on the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer. The young Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and contribute to its “international expansion”.

Ukraine has rich soil as well as shale oil reserves. The U.S. agribusiness giant Cargill is particularly active in Ukraine, investing in grain elevators, animal feed, a major egg producer and agribusiness firm, UkrLandFarming, as well as the Black Sea port at Novorossiysk. The very active U.S.-Ukraine Business Council includes executives of Monsanto, John Deere, agriculture equipment-maker CNH Industrial, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly & Company. Monsanto plans to build a $140 million “non-GMO corn seed plant in Ukraine”, evidently targeting the GMO-shy European market. It was in her speech at a Chevron-sponsored meeting of the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council a year ago that Victoria Nuland mentioned the five billion dollars spent by the U.S. in the last twenty years to win over Ukraine.

On December 2, President Poroshenko swore in three foreigners as cabinet ministers: an American, a Lithuanian and a Georgian. He granted them Ukrainian citizenship a few minutes before the ceremony.

U.S. born Natalie Jaresko is Ukraine’s new Finance Minister. With a Ukrainian family background and degrees from Harvard and DePaul universities, Jaresko went from the State Department to Kiev when Ukraine gained independence from the Soviet Union, in order to head the economic department of the newly opened U.S. embassy. Three years later she left the U.S. Embassy to head the U.S. government-financed Western NIS Enterprise Fund. In 2004 she established her own equity fund. As a supporter of the 2004 Orange Revolution, she served on “Orange” victor President Viktor Yushchenko’s Foreign Investors Advisory Council.

Lithuanian investment banker Aivaras Abromavicius is the new Economy Minister, putting government economic policy clearly under U.S. influence, or rather control.

The new Health Minister, Aleksandr Kvitashvili from Georgia, is U.S.-educated and does not speak Ukrainian. He had served as health minister in his native Georgia, when U.S. puppet Mikheil Saakashvili was President.

The U.S. grip on Ukraine’s economy is now complete. The stage is set to begin fracking, perhaps transforming Hunter Biden into Ukraine’s newest oligarch.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/...gainst-russia/

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Another day, another fluff session for Putin courtesy der gaffenfuehrer.
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In another terrific piece, Diane Johnstone explains that the US seeks to open up Ukraine shale deposits with fracking - -and cut Russia out of the gas equation.
The Ukraine has shale deposits and is cutting out the thugs who invaded their country and this surprises you??

You really are a box of rocks!!
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The Ukraine has shale deposits and is cutting out the thugs who invaded their country and this surprises you??

You really are a box of rocks!!
Don't insult rocks by comparing them to der gaffenfuhrer.

Rocks have many purposes. Der gaffenfuehrer has none.
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The Ukraine has shale deposits and is cutting out the thugs who invaded their country and this surprises you??

You really are a box of rocks!!
Thugs -- like the Ukrainian oligarchs who think Hitler was right. Incredible you believe the nonsense you believe -- but it's no surprise really given the way the US media has deteriorated. You are a product of US media brainwashing.
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Pat Buchanan does a nice job rebutting the lie in the recent House bill that Russia invaded Georgia in 2009. Not so.

Ro has also repeated this lie without shame. MHG

A Russophobic Rant From Congress

By Patrick J. Buchanan

December 09, 2014 "ICH" - Hopefully, Russians realize that our House of Representatives often passes thunderous resolutions to pander to special interests, which have no bearing on the thinking or actions of the U.S. government.

Last week, the House passed such a resolution 411-10.

As ex-Rep. Ron Paul writes, House Resolution 758 is so "full of war propaganda that it rivals the rhetoric from the chilliest era of the Cold War."

H. R. 758 is a Russophobic rant full of falsehoods and steeped in superpower hypocrisy.

Among the 43 particulars in the House indictment is this gem:

"The Russian Federation invaded the Republic of Georgia in August 2008."

Bullhockey. On Aug. 7-8, 2008, Georgia invaded South Ossetia, a tiny province that had won its independence in the 1990s. Georgian artillery killed Russian peacekeepers, and the Georgian army poured in.

Only then did the Russian army enter South Ossetia and chase the Georgians back into their own country.

The aggressor of the Russo-Georgia war was not Vladimir Putin but President Mikheil Saakashvili, brought to power in 2004 in one of those color-coded revolutions we engineered in the Bush II decade.

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Thugs -- like the Ukrainian oligarchs who think Hitler was right. Incredible you believe the nonsense you believe -- but it's no surprise really given the way the US media has deteriorated. You are a product of US media brainwashing.
Russian tanks invade and you blame anyone except Putin.

Apologists for Putin, as he marched into his neighbor and annexed Crimea, are a pathetic bunch.

So, Gaffney, post your list of acceptable news media from anywhere in the world.

Step up, let's see what you've got!!
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I doubt we have much in common with the Ukraine either. Doesn't matter though because our old foe is up to its old tricks.

America can't let the Russians rebuild the Soviet Empire. We have to fight them because they are the enemy period. Let's not forget how they behaved in ww2. They were more then happy to watch hitler destroy Europe. Vietnam? They funded the enemy, tried to put missiles in Cuba, etc etc. It goes so far back we can never forget.
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Putin is not rebuilding the Soviet empire. That is pure hogwash.

Madness has replaced MAD (mutually assured destruction).

War with Russia means Armageddon.
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Putin is not rebuilding the Soviet empire. That is pure hogwash.

Madness has replaced MAD (mutually assured destruction).

War with Russia means Armageddon.
And that gives you a chub, you death-worshipping dickhead.

The overall sanity and morality of the entire human race will go up once you pass.
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Russia Baltic military actions 'unprecedented' - Poland

Lemme guess - Poland is another US (ZOG) "vassal".

Or, it's from the BBC, which is a slave to the Bank of London [sic].

Right, der gaffenfuehrer?
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Russia Baltic military actions 'unprecedented' - Poland

Lemme guess - Poland is another US (ZOG) "vassal".

Or, it's from the BBC, which is a slave to the Bank of London [sic].

Right, der gaffenfuehrer?
Until Gaffinsky posts his list of approved news sources, the troof only comes from Infocraphouse, Alex Jones and Putin's state controlled media.

But he's too much of a limp d*ck to post 'approved' news sources.

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"approved" new sources?

That's hilarious. What a bunch of psychos.
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What a bunch of psychos.
Ironic.

Is Poland an American vassal state, like Germany?

What about Sweden?

Is the world really under the control of the Jews?
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