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Old 02-15-2010, 10:46 PM   #1
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Default If the Cavaliers get Amare', will they beat the Lakers for the title?

Looks more and more like this deal to send Amare to Cleveland is going to go through. With James, Shaq and now Amare, are they set to dethrone the Lakeshow?

But apparently the Miami Heat are really pushing to make a deal to acquire Stoudemire. With Wade and Amare', the Heat could really make a serious push in the playoffs.

I think the Suns still prefer the Sixers deal where they would get Iguadala but the Sixers still haven't totally commited to that deal. Their time is running out. The Suns are going to deal Amare and only days away from the deadline, they probably won't wait till the last minute when things could just fall apart.

So, if Amare goes to the Heat or the Calvs, would that be enough to take the Lakers down? I certainly think if the Calves get Amare, they are the clear favorite in the East and could indeed take out the Lakers. If the Heat landed Amare, I think that puts them right there with Boston and Cleveland in the hunt for the top seed in the East.

Wow, that would be one hell of a series and I think Cleveland would come out on top.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:48 PM   #2
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:52 PM   #3
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Probably not. Amare will disrupt the chemistry they have and is one demensional. As much as he helps you on Offense he kills your team defensively and rebounding. I say no he doesn't but I hate the lakers so I hope so.
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He's a ball hog and poor defensively.

I hope he Lakers get him, honestly.
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He is the only guy that I wouldn't be upset with trading J.J Hickson for. I don't think things really would change that much other then teams would have to respect the 4 position for the Cavs.
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He is the only guy that I wouldn't be upset with trading J.J Hickson for. I don't think things really would change that much other then teams would have to respect the 4 position for the Cavs.
His defensive efforts and rebounding is atrocious at times. There is a reason the SUNS are moving him. He can score though but the problem is the guy he is guarding will score a lot more than normal.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:26 PM   #7
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don't count out the Nuggets. they have played a good chunk of this season without either Melo or Billups and continued playing at a very high level. now add in that they are really pushing to acquire Tyrus Thomas.

if any of those deals do go through though. the talent gap between Lakers and everyone else gets a hell of a lot smaller.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:32 PM   #8
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His defensive efforts and rebounding is atrocious at times. There is a reason the SUNS are moving him. He can score though but the problem is the guy he is guarding will score a lot more than normal.
lol, Hickson isn't a all-star defender either. He has upside and moves well without the ball but he doesn't have much of a jump shot yet. I'm sure there are a number of reasons why the Suns are trying to move him. Getting something when they know he isn't going to resign with them is on top of that list. Amare Stoudemire might be that great at D, who knows maybe he will improve under Brown but I can tell you this it does give someone the Cavs can count on to score when James is on the bench. The Cavs blow big leads when James rests.
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What are the Heat going to give then? I heard the Suns didn't want any part of Michael Beasley but I guess that has changed now. I think the 76ers would be fools to trade Andre Iguodala for a guy that won't resign with them. Corey Maggette's name is now being rumored to the Cavaliers for Hickson.
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lol, Hickson isn't a all-star defender either. He has upside and moves well without the ball but he doesn't have much of a jump shot yet. I'm sure there are a number of reasons why the Suns are trying to move him. Getting something when they know he isn't going to resign with them is on top of that list. Amare Stoudemire might be that great at D, who knows maybe he will improve under Brown but I can tell you this it does give someone the Cavs can count on to score when James is on the bench. The Cavs blow big leads when James rests.
You sound like a SUNS fan from a few years ago defending his piss poor play on one side of the court. SUNS have shopped him more than this year. He should help Cleveland but it has the potential to destroy their chemistry too.
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You sound like a SUNS fan from a few years ago defending his piss poor play on one side of the court. SUNS have shopped him more than this year. He should help Cleveland but it has the potential to destroy their chemistry too.
I'm not defending his play at all. I simply saying that Hickson is raw and defense isn't always that great either. If Amare is a step down on D then so be it. The Cavs are getting 8.4 points per game from Anderson Varejao and 7.4 from Hickson. Amare would improve the scoring from the PF. Also Anderson Varejao disappeared in the playoffs last year. I don't think the Cavs want to risk something like that again. As for the chemistry, I'm aware of that. I have said many times in the NBA thread that I would rather the Cavs not trade anyone, but if we did I would prefer it be for Amare then Jamison.
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I feel bad for the Cavs front office. The pressure they must be under this season must be unreal.
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Old 02-16-2010, 12:56 AM   #13
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Amare is overrated. I don't see his addition to the east impacting the Lakers. He's been with Shaq and Nash (a two time MVP) and they didn't accomplish jack squat.
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It doesn't matter whether they get Amare or not. He doesn't even address the biggest weakness any team has against LA, which is post defense and rebounding, because he can't defend or rebound. Cleveland wins a title when Lebron feels like kicking into overdrive. He's never done that. He plays hard, works hard, whatever, but he doesn't have that edge yet, and they won't win until he has it because that team is garbage. when he gets that edge they will win because he is a transcendent athlete.
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I hope he Lakers get him, honestly.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:47 AM   #16
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:26 AM   #17
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I'm not a huge Amare fan, but he would make the Cavs better, and they're already a good team. A big Laker advantage is the Pau/Bynum/Odom size advantage, and Shaq and Amare would combat that.

It'd be a good finals.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:13 AM   #18
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This Amare to the Cavs deal is about keeping LeBron in Cleveland. Whether they win this year or not this trade is about the future. They now have another legit young allstar to grow with LeBron n entice him to stay. He is to LeBron what Pau was to Kobe
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They still wont beat the Lakers.
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This will make the Cavs a better team. Hickson scores the majority of his points in the paint with LeBron putting him in good positions to be successful. Amare doesn't completely rely on alley oop dunks like Hickson. Sure, he's not an all world defender, but look at what we would be giving up. Illgauskus (sp?) will likely resign with the cavs afterwards. The Magic don't have Turkey Glue this year to kill them from the outside. Frankly, I think this is every bit the steal that the Gasol trade was for the Lakers a few years ago.
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You're right they won't be playing them in the finals. Lakers won't make it.
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This Amare to the Cavs deal is about keeping LeBron in Cleveland. Whether they win this year or not this trade is about the future. They now have another legit young allstar to grow with LeBron n entice him to stay. He is to LeBron what Pau was to Kobe
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