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Old 02-12-2010, 05:35 PM   #1
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* I'm a 2004 graduate of the University of Alabama-Huntsville and to say what happened today is awful. I'm a Huntsville native and love my hometown. Something like this you will never imagine happening in a city like Huntsville.

My prayers and thoughts are with those that lost their lives and for my beloved university and friends who graduated from there (one of my friends was actually on the first floor when the shooting happened), we hope the victims may rest in peace.


3 dead, 3 wounded in university shooting
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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - A biology professor was in custody Friday after a shooting at the University of Alabama-Huntsville campus that left three people dead and three others wounded, according to police and media reports.

Amy Bishop, a Harvard University-trained neuroscientist who was reportedly upset over being denied tenure, was taken into custody, and her husband was detained, local media reported, citing police and university sources and witnesses.

Police said someone opened fire during a faculty meeting Friday afternoon inside the Shelby Center, a 200,000-square-foot science building.
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Three faculty members were killed and at least three other people were injured. Two men were in critical condition at a Huntsville hospital and a woman was in stable condition, WHNT-TV reported.

According to media reports, Bishop had been denied tenure Friday morning. She apparently returned to a campus faculty meeting in the afternoon and opened fire, university officials and witnesses told NBC station WAFF-TV.

Screams heard
Erin Johnson, a sophomore and a student aide, told the Huntsville Times there was a biology faculty meeting under way when she heard screams coming from the room.

Gina Hammond, a UAH student, told WAFF that she lobbied the University of Alabama trustees to allow students with gun permits to carry their weapons on campus. She was turned down.

“I’m scared to go back to school,” Hammond said. “However, if they were to allow me to carry my permanent pistol on campus, I would not be as scared.

“... I’m sorry that nobody in that room had a permanent pistol to save at least one person’s life,” Hammond said.

Suspect involved with cell incubator
In June 2006, The Huntsville Times published a story involving Bishop and her husband, Jim Anderson, chief science officer of Cherokee Labsystems in Huntsville.

Together, the two designed a portable cell incubator that eliminates many of the problems with cultivating tissues in the fragile environment of the Petri dish, according to the article.

"It's great to actually see it hit the market, and the sooner the better," Bishop said in the story. "My colleagues think it will change the face of tissue culture. It will allow us, as researchers, to not live in the lab and control our tissue culture conditions, including the sensitive cultures including those like adult stem cells.

"The conditions to differentiate those have to be exact, and the incubator will help that."

Tired of applying 1920s science to the rapidly advancing work of biotechnology, Bishop approached her husband ... about inventing a portable cell incubator. Together, she and Anderson designed a sealed, self-contained cell incubation system that is mobile and eliminates many of the problems with cultivating tissues in the fragile environment of the petri dish.

Previous school shooting
It's the second shooting in a week on an area campus. Last Friday, a 14-year-old student was killed in a middle school hallway in nearby Madison, allegedly by a fellow student.

"This town is unaccustomed to shootings and multiple deaths," university spokesman Ray Garner said at a news conference.

The Huntsville campus has about 7,500 students in northern Alabama, not far from the Tennessee line. The city is home to NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.

Female school shooters are rare. The Secret Service studied 41 attackers in 37 school shooting incidents. Of those, all were male.

But there have been female school shooters. For example, in February 2008 a female student shot and killed two classmates and then herself at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge.
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:47 PM   #2
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Tenure is a big deal, it mean a lifetime of slacking off and a nice pension.
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:24 PM   #3
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Jesus, that is horrible. My with is a grad student and believes tenure will be going the way of the dodo soon, it is rather antiquated.

RIP those who died.
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Really really sad, sorry for you're loss.

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Classy how someone immediately stumps for a political resolution in the aftermath.
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Tenure makes it almost impossible to remove them no matter how controversial, incompetent, lazy or radical.

CU is a perfect example.

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do away with tenure and remove a lot of nasty politics and open up some jobs for more university profs who want to work. Sounds like she made a research impact with that invention but I guess she didn't kiss enough butt to get the tenure in effect ruining her career.
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prayers out to the families involved. It's been crazy here lately - last week, a 9th grade student was shot in the back of the head at school between classes.
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It's not like she couldn't have achieved tenure down the road.

Maybe her invention hadn't been peer reviewed enough. Maybe she knew she had mimicked data?

Prettty unstable behavior to be a proffesor anyway if you can't take a setback on a theory.
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It's not like she couldn't have achieved tenure down the road.

Maybe her invention hadn't been peer reviewed enough. Maybe she knew she had mimicked data?

Prettty unstable behavior to be a proffesor anyway if you can't take a setback on a theory.
you are assuming a lot of things. its not an invention either.
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"It's great to actually see it hit the market, and the sooner the better," Bishop said in the story. "My colleagues think it will change the face of tissue culture. It will allow us, as researchers, to not live in the lab and control our tissue culture conditions, including the sensitive cultures including those like adult stem cells.

"The conditions to differentiate those have to be exact, and the incubator will help that."

Tired of applying 1920s science to the rapidly advancing work of biotechnology, Bishop approached her husband ... about inventing a portable cell incubator. Together, she and Anderson designed a sealed, self-contained cell incubation system that is mobile and eliminates many of the problems with cultivating tissues in the fragile environment of the petri dish.
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Excuse me?

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Excuse me?
inventions arent peer reviewed, research is in order to get accepted into a journal.
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You're an idiot.

Obviously, SHE thought it was worth tenure.

Nice to know she was working with stem cells also.
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She called it an invention, dumbass.

I didn't.
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There's no reason big enough to kill people for.

That being said, female professors need to bend over backwards/forwards etc. to get tenure. Something is definitely wrong with that picture!
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prayers out to the families involved. It's been crazy here lately - last week, a 9th grade student was shot in the back of the head at school between classes.
I'm from Southeast Huntsville (went to school at Grissom) and then to UAH.

My parents now live in Madison (near the Airport) and they are stunned at what happened, especially the past week.
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Whether it was an invention, a patent or discovery, or all 3, don't you think it's rather insane to go after those that refused tenure for her self proclained "discovery?"
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Whether it was an invention, a patent or discovery, or all 3, don't you think it's rather insane to go after those that refused tenure for her self proclained "discovery?"
never said she wasnt frickin crazy for killing people for getting refused tenure, just saying inventions arent peer reviewed
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There's no reason big enough to kill people for.

That being said, female professors need to bend over backwards/forwards etc. to get tenure. Something is definitely wrong with that picture!
That's old school.

53% of grad students are female.
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That's old school.

53% of grad students are female.
grad students does not equate to people with phds trying to get a lifetime job.
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never said she wasnt frickin crazy for killing people for getting refused tenure, just saying inventions arent peer reviewed
Maybe they should be.

Or not.

Many great thinkers are outside the box.
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Typical of the entitlement generation.

"You're not welcoming me into the protection afforded the self-aggrandizing bureaucratic elite...which is what I thought I earned with my PhD, so here's a bullet for ya."

This chick is scum.
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female professors need to bend over backwards/forwards etc. to get tenure. Something is definitely wrong with that picture!
I disagree, the playing field is tilted in females favor now days in the sciences and engineering to get more female profs. This may not be the case in biology though, not sure.
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I disagree, the playing field is tilted in females favor now days in the sciences and engineering to get more female profs. This may not be the case in biology though, not sure.
There usually arent as many female profs in the hard sciences as there are in the social sciences or humanities. I have found that chemistry draws alot of female advanced students (future PhD's, masters) as does physics. Really there are alot of female graduate students in biology as well.
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