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Old 02-07-2010, 07:39 PM   #1
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I do. The best thing about Nolan, was that he coached his team in the locker room; Larry never did. That 2nd half 1st drive was textbook Offense against the coach who can't adjust.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:43 PM   #2
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Peyton Manning threw the interception that cost the Colts the game, not Larry Coyer.
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Coyer gave up only 24 points to the No. 1 offense in the league. I'd say his side of the ball did its job.
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What was he supposed to adjust? Everything was working. Then the Saints just started dumping off to backs because the Colts linebackers couldn't keep up. They really held the Saints in check all game and ironically the Colts offense and special teams did them in. It's not like that pick six Manning threw had anything to do with Larry Coyer or his defense.

Just own up and admit that firing Larry Coyer was the stupidest move Shanahan ever made and is likely what lost him his job.
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I do. The best thing about Nolan, was that he coached his team in the locker room; Larry never did. That 2nd half 1st drive was textbook Offense against the coach who can't adjust.


Just for a laugh, what adjustment do you think needed to be made?
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you guys do realize that the saints only punted twice the whole game, the first two posessiona of the game.
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Just own up and admit that firing Larry Coyer was the stupidest move Shanahan ever made and is likely what lost him his job.
I won't agree with that.....
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Just for a laugh, what adjustment do you think needed to be made?
did you happen to notice how many times WRs were WIDE OPEN in the second half? Laugh all you want, I just remember how terrible Coyer's defenses for Denver stumbled in the second half. OTOH, remember when Nolan came on and was holding teams scoreless or maybe a figgie in the first half of last season? Those blown coverages on Indy's part in the SB have to be on someone. I choose to blame the DC......because I remember how bad we looked in the last half season in 08, Coyer did not have an answer for the Panthers, Bills and Chargers. They scored at will.....not unlike this SB

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After the 1st quarter, the Saints offense couldn't be stopped. Coyer had a good plan to start out, but the Saints adjusted, then Coyer couldn't adjust to the Saints adjustment.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:56 PM   #10
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Peyton Manning threw the interception that cost the Colts the game, not Larry Coyer.
Plummer.... Manning... it's always someone else's fault.

I will say this, Coyer's squad managed to keep the game close, despite marginal offensive output in the first half. Too bad his D couldn't have done that against Pittsburgh in 05.

The mark of a true championship defense is being able to keep games close when your offense is struggling, not an if/then-scenario that calls for your defense to give up playoff records in first half points and yardage just because your O gets off to a slow start.

Look, props to Coyer. He's clearly a good coach or he wouldn't have taken one D to the SB, and another to the brink. He may have flaws, but I've been saying all season that Indy's D was suspect.

Indy's D was suspect in 06, which is why I think that was one of the worst teams to ever win a SB.

Coyer deserves congrats today, not bashing. But... the whole issue of his leaving Denver and its importance (or lack thereof) has been largely overstated.
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What was he supposed to adjust? Everything was working. Then the Saints just started dumping off to backs because the Colts linebackers couldn't keep up. They really held the Saints in check all game and ironically the Colts offense and special teams did them in. It's not like that pick six Manning threw had anything to do with Larry Coyer or his defense.

Just own up and admit that firing Larry Coyer was the stupidest move Shanahan ever made and is likely what lost him his job.
1. Paul Tonevossi
2. The Claw in the second round
3. Dale Carter

....it's not the worst but it is right up there.
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you guys do realize that the saints only punted twice the whole game, the first two posessiona of the game.
Dat dar be a Good point
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1. Paul Tonevossi
2. The Claw in the second round
3. Dale Carter

....it's not the worst but it is right up there.
Clarett?
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1. Paul Tonevossi
2. The Claw in the second round
3. Dale Carter

....it's not the worst but it is right up there.
Bad second round picks are the worst moves ever?
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Clarett?


Clarett was selected with a compensatory pick at the end of the third round.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:26 PM   #16
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Plummer.... Manning... it's always someone else's fault.
Most definitely in those two cases, you're right. It's called controlling the ball. If you don't do this against high powered offenses, you'll end up scored on.

I can't imagine how anyone could look at this game and pin the loss on Coyer. Pretty stupid.
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Plummer.... Manning... it's always someone else's fault.
That's the way it is with these Larry Coyer apologists. It's always the special teams, Quarterback play, somebody else...but never Larry Coyer.
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That's the way it is with these Larry Coyer apologists. It's always the special teams, Quarterback play, somebody else...but never Larry Coyer.
Yeah ... three years in a row Top 10 defenses. He sucked.
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I do. The best thing about Nolan, was that he coached his team in the locker room; Larry never did. That 2nd half 1st drive was textbook Offense against the coach who can't adjust.
The Saints made adjustments on their offense. They came out playing a different game in the second half, so to talk about the Colts defense making adjustments is a moot point.
For starters they opened up the second half woth an on-side kick that the Colts almost recovered...
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Why do people forget Freeney wasn't 100%...more like 75%!!
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He still had a sack, and some decent pressure. He was a factor, first half anyway.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:54 PM   #22
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Seems like Larry Coyer's defense still doesn't wrap up. One of the worst tackling games I've seen all year for both sides.
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That's the way it is with these Larry Coyer apologists. It's always the special teams, Quarterback play, somebody else...but never Larry Coyer.
I'm sure it wasn't the fault of the guy with 5 interceptions and 3 fumbles in four playoff games.
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Why do people forget Freeney wasn't 100%...more like 75%!!
I can't believe that Freeny didn't come out taped and ready to play there in the second half. Even at 75%, they needed him on the field.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:59 PM   #25
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Considering they shut out the Jets in the 2nd half of the CG after giving up 17 in the first half, and that in this game, they dominated the Saints offense in the first half and had no adjustments to make at the half... I'm gonna say "no" to the OP.
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