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Old 02-05-2010, 04:25 AM   #1
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The Marshall Plan: Bring in unselfish players


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Itís when, not if.

Itís when Brandon Marshall is traded, not if. Itís not what the Broncos are going to get in return. Itís what Marshallís future area code is going to be.

The issue isnít so much that the Broncos are going to trade Marshall, most likely in March. The real story here is why.

Clearly, Pat Bowlen and Joe Ellis, his right-hand man, had an agenda when they hired Josh McDaniels to replace Mike Shanahan. It wasnít just a matter of Bowlen having grown tired of the Broncosí wretched defense or his concern that the franchise needed a fresh face and a new voice.


No, this was all about changing the attitude in the locker room. It was about running off all the questionable attitudes, the likes of which Bowlen questioned publicly in the latter years of the Shanahan regime. The same questionable attitudes that prompted Rod Smith before his retirement to say the franchise had lost ďthe Bronco way.íí

Unselfishness. Accountability. Those are the traits Bowlen wants in his players. They were traits that defined the Broncosí Super Bowl teams of 1997 and í98, but have been in short supply in recent years.

The trick, of course, is to get talented, difference-making players who are unselfish and accountable. Itís one thing to run off Jay Cutler and Marshall. But how do the Broncos get any better if they canít find similar talents to replace them?



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Old 02-05-2010, 04:36 AM   #2
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The Marshall Plan: Bring in unselfish players


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Unselfishness. Accountability. Those are the traits Bowlen wants in his players. They were traits that defined the Broncosí Super Bowl teams of 1997 and í98, but have been in short supply in recent years.[/url]
I wonder if this Bowlen guy knows what it's like to "Be a Bronco?".
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:04 AM   #3
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:27 AM   #4
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It would be so incredibly stupid to trade this guy. Yes, he was young. Did he make mistakes, absolutely. So did the head coach. He is a rare talent. Easily in top 3 receivers in the league. We've already lost one franchise player, there's no sense in losing another. We don't have any other player on this team, offensively or defensively, that has the talent and potential that BM does. Heck, he even made Orton look good for a year which is not an easy task at all...
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Oh Jesus Christ.

We are supposed to do this with McDaniels?
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It sounds good, unfortunately it is completely unrealistic.

Every team has selfish troubled players... yes even the patriots.

The idea is to make sure you keep a proper balance of "Good guys" and "Bad guys"... and when your "bad guys" are as talented as Cutler was and Marshal is, you try like hell to find a way to work with them.

Don't get me wrong I understand Marshall is a major headache, but if traded the fact remains we will be less talented than we were, and in the NFL talent trumps all.
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:52 AM   #7
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He's not going anywhere
He's long gone and has been since the KC game.

When that date in March arrives, they'll make it official so quick, it'll be done in a matter of minutes.
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Did anyone forget that the greatest Bronco to ever live was a selfish player? We went to 5 super bowls and won 2 with a QB who was so selfish he flat out rejected playing for the team that drafted him.
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He's not going anywhere
Domestic violence issues (going), DUI charges (going), Involvement in argument leading to DWills' murder (going), More domestic violence issues (going), Criticizing the fans and city (going), Questionable McD bag injury, err: Tv console attack (going), ****ing off during training sessions (going), Team benching (going), fake hamstring issues and dogging it on the field (GONE).

Carry your Ass BM.
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Did anyone forget that the greatest Bronco to ever live was a selfish player? We went to 5 super bowls and won 2 with a QB who was so selfish he flat out rejected playing for the team that drafted him.
There is a big difference between controlling your future when you have options and the mindless **** Marshall has done.

John Elway did what he did because he had a clear vision of his future and wanted to make that happen. Marshall's off field issues and actions during the last pre-season are major indicators of someone who has no such vision and acts rashly time and time again.

Unselfish doesn't mean self sacrificing. Protecting one's own interests is not selfishness. Acting in a rash or reckless manner because the mood strikes regardless of the consequences is selfishness.

I think Marshall has the potential to clean it all up and be the best WR in NFL history. But a great sign that he's starting to get it would be working out a long term deal that gets him paid while still protecting the Broncos, or coming back next season on the RFA tag and showing that he's matured with 16 games of high productivity and zero drama.
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I wonder if this Bowlen guy knows what it's like to "Be a Bronco?".
I'm sure TJ has sent him a memo on it...
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It sounds good, unfortunately it is completely unrealistic.

Every team has selfish troubled players... yes even the patriots.

The idea is to make sure you keep a proper balance of "Good guys" and "Bad guys"... and when your "bad guys" are as talented as Cutler was and Marshal is, you try like hell to find a way to work with them.

Don't get me wrong I understand Marshall is a major headache, but if traded the fact remains we will be less talented than we were, and in the NFL talent trumps all.
Exactly. One reason why the Pats have been so successful is because they are successful getting headaches to buy into the system and coaching, not because they run off or avoid talented headaches. Seems like by getting Dawkins we were specifically trying to create the same atmosphere with strong player leadership leading the more immature.
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There is a big difference between controlling your future when you have options and the mindless **** Marshall has done.

John Elway did what he did because he had a clear vision of his future and wanted to make that happen. Marshall's off field issues and actions during the last pre-season are major indicators of someone who has no such vision and acts rashly time and time again.

Unselfish doesn't mean self sacrificing. Protecting one's own interests is not selfishness. Acting in a rash or reckless manner because the mood strikes regardless of the consequences is selfishness.

I think Marshall has the potential to clean it all up and be the best WR in NFL history. But a great sign that he's starting to get it would be working out a long term deal that gets him paid while still protecting the Broncos, or coming back next season on the RFA tag and showing that he's matured with 16 games of high productivity and zero drama.
Elway didn't have any more options than Marshall, they both had the option of not playing and not b****ing or b****ing in an attempt to play elsewhere, the only difference was that Elway's b****ing worked.

Marshall had a clear vision of the future as well, he wanted more money. Elway knew he would get the same money regardless he just wanted another team.

You are absolutely right, which is why Marshall is not selfish, he is protecting his ability to make a living which consists of him not being injured. So the longer he plays a small contract the more he endangers his ability to get a big contract.
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I'm sure TJ has sent him a memo on it...
And as soon as Bowlen comes out of his 'gutless drunk' stupor, I'm sure he'll read it.

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Elway didn't have any more options than Marshall, they both had the option of not playing and not b****ing or b****ing in an attempt to play elsewhere, the only difference was that Elway's b****ing worked.

Marshall had a clear vision of the future as well, he wanted more money. Elway knew he would get the same money regardless he just wanted another team.

You are absolutely right, which is why Marshall is not selfish, he is protecting his ability to make a living which consists of him not being injured. So the longer he plays a small contract the more he endangers his ability to get a big contract.
Why compare Elway's situation with Marshall's?? They have nothing in common...... except the Broncos.

Did John walk around b**** slapping his girlfriends, did the league suspend him? The list goes on.

If BM were "protecting his ability to make a living" he'd be a different person.

His problems are all self inflicted and are detrimental to his ability to make a living.
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Bowlen realized that Shanny needed to go. I'm not sure why this is such a shocker to all the McD bashers. Shanny's system was not working anymore and he could never seem to get the defense in line. Aside from actually playing the game, the locker room is where everything either comes together or breaks apart. Shanny's locker room was not united. How can a team when if the locker room is struggling?
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I'd rather have a rare talent at QB.

the kind that makes average wr's into pro-bowl receivers.
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the kind that makes average wr's into pro-bowl receivers.
Like in Chicago?
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I think we need players that can sing and dance and say "aw shucks" a lot.
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Bowlen realized that Shanny needed to go. I'm not sure why this is such a shocker to all the McD bashers. Shanny's system was not working anymore and he could never seem to get the defense in line. Aside from actually playing the game, the locker room is where everything either comes together or breaks apart. Shanny's locker room was not united. How can a team when if the locker room is struggling?
It started with signing Dale Carter.
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I wonder if this Bowlen guy knows what it's like to "Be a Bronco?".
Well I don't know I thought to be a Bronco you had to suit up! Put on a Uni-form and bring it at a high level EVERY SUNDAY. Has Bowlen wore a Bronco Uniform?
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Bowlen realized that Shanny needed to go. I'm not sure why this is such a shocker to all the McD bashers. Shanny's system was not working anymore and he could never seem to get the defense in line. Aside from actually playing the game, the locker room is where everything either comes together or breaks apart. Shanny's locker room was not united. How can a team when if the locker room is struggling?
McD has caused or inherited the same delilmma! No one wants to admit it but, McD lost the locker room as well. The team quit on him the last game of the season with PLAY OFF implications on the line. Not only did the Broncos get beaten by the lowly KC's....they got they're ass's handed to them as if they couldn't wait for the season to end.....just to get away from Dictator McD!!! It was obvious the 2009 Broncos did not want to go to the playoffs under McD....thats for sure.
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