Best of All Time? ESPN Doesnt Think Elway is Even in the Conversation - The Orange Mane

epicSocialism4tw · 02-03-2010, 07:06 PM

Strange.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sportsnati...d=1&listId=524

Flex Gunmetal · 02-03-2010, 07:08 PM

Bear in mind he played for the Denver Broncos.

DBroncos4life · 02-03-2010, 07:12 PM

It would be cool if Lawrence Taylor was the best defensive player ever but he isn't so why the **** is he on that list?

extralife · 02-03-2010, 07:25 PM

I like how Otto Graham is on this list, but he wasn't on their list of best QBs ever, which was like twenty deep. I stopped ranking QBs when I got to 3 and couldn't find Graham.

DBroncos4life · 02-03-2010, 07:30 PM

Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games. I would take him over coke head any Sunday.

TDmvp · 02-03-2010, 07:36 PM

and stuff like this is why Espn can suck a bag of Di#ks ...

Taylor was to me over rated and benefited a lot from a scheme that was ahead of it's time in N.Y. ...

I'd rather have Singletary ...

epicSocialism4tw · 02-03-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games. I would take him over coke head any Sunday.

Reggie White was dominant in a way that we may never see again. That guy was unstoppable at DE.

BroncoMan4ever · 02-03-2010, 07:52 PM

ESPN is the equivalent to the retarded kid whose mother makes the school or city league sports put her kid on the field. he is there, and he tries hard, but at the end of the day, he has no idea what the hell he is doing

with that in mind, who gives a damn what they think?

garandman · 02-03-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TDmvp

and stuff like this is why Espn can suck a bag of Di#ks ...

Taylor was to me over rated and benefited a lot from a scheme that was ahead of it's time in N.Y. ...

I'd rather have Singletary ...

I would strongly disagree, Taylor was a very dominant player, overated he was not.

Man-Goblin · 02-03-2010, 07:56 PM

Who made this list. Gil Brandt?

sirhcyennek81 · 02-03-2010, 07:58 PM

Wasnt it ESPN who said the best Sports Cities in the country are New York, Boston and Los Angeles?

DBroncos4life · 02-03-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by garandman

I would strongly disagree, Taylor was a very dominant player, overated he was not.

Over-rated nope, but the best defensive player ever he is not. I can't speak about players like Deacon Jones I never seen him play, but Reggie White was a much better player then Taylor. I watched those two play.

Taco John · 02-03-2010, 08:05 PM

Maybe it's a faulty perception, but I don't remember Reggie White being feared the way LT was. I don't know if LT is the best defensive player in history, but he was certainly one of the most intimidating ones.

Taco John · 02-03-2010, 08:06 PM

Also, I voted in complete crap order just to screw with it. Not that it made even a dent, but...

TDmvp · 02-03-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Over-rated nope, but the best defensive player ever he is not. I can't speak about players like Deacon Jones I never seen him play, but Reggie White was a much better player then Taylor. I watched those two play.

Yea that is what I ment , over rated if we are talking about greatest of all time...

L.T. should not even be in that top 10

epicSocialism4tw · 02-03-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Also, I voted in complete crap order just to screw with it. Not that it made even a dent, but...

I did the same when I looked at it.

SoCalBronco · 02-03-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Wasnt it ESPN who said the best Sports Cities in the country are New York, Boston and Los Angeles?

The fact they put L.A. on that list should disqualify them from ever opining on anything again.

Taco John · 02-03-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McSkillet

I did the same when I looked at it.

That's two of us brother. Fight the power!

DBroncos4life · 02-03-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Maybe it's a faulty perception, but I don't remember Reggie White being feared the way LT was. I don't know if LT is the best defensive player in history, but he was certainly one of the most intimidating ones.

Never underestimate the power of drug abuse lol. White was just such a good guy on and off the field it would be hard for him to intimidate. White failed to reach double digit sack number just three years out of the fifteen years he played and one of those years was with the Panthers after he came back from being retired for a year. His 21 sacks in the 1987 season is beyond impressive. He was getting damn near 2 sacks a game that season. He might not have been as feared as Taylor but he was more dominate on the field.

dbfan4life · 02-03-2010, 08:31 PM

I wrote myself in 10 times....

maher_tyler · 02-03-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by broncoman4ever

espn is the equivalent to the retarded kid whose mother makes the school or city league sports put her kid on the field. He is there, and he tries hard, but at the end of the day, he has no idea what the hell he is doing

with that in mind, who gives a damn what they think?

+1

Chris · 02-03-2010, 08:55 PM

I think the problem is ESPN is such a force that they shape public perception, particularly for those that weren't there to watch these players.

GoBroncos DownUnder · 02-03-2010, 08:57 PM

Here - HOF voters incompetency put to good use: Simple fact is Elway WENT to 5 Super Bowls - his HoF supporting cast equalled - ONE player in ONE Super Bowl. Best ALL TIME statistic ever - from the best player EVER.

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

White was just such a good guy on and off the field it would be hard for him to intimidate.

You REALLY should check out Reggie White's speech to the Wisconsin State Legislature ... It's the reason Reggie didn't ever get into the Media.
IMO - White kept playing those last few crappy years desperately hoping that the furor would die down!

NFLBRONCO · 02-03-2010, 08:59 PM

Stats is one reason. ESPN etc forget Elway carried Denver by himself most of his career. Can you imagine Peyton Brady Montana playing in Denver in the 80's lol.

DBroncos4life · 02-03-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBroncos DownUnder

Here - HOF voters incompetency put to good use: Simple fact is Elway WENT to 5 Super Bowls - his HoF supporting cast equalled - ONE player in ONE Super Bowl. Best ALL TIME statistic ever - from the best player EVER.

You REALLY should check out Reggie White's speech to the Wisconsin State Legislature ... It's the reason Reggie didn't ever get into the Media.
IMO - White kept playing those last few crappy years desperately hoping that the furor would die down!

Those last few crappy years? 97 he had 11 sacks, 98 he had 16 then in 2000 he had 5.5. I never heard his speech but I do know that overall he was a good guy.

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02-03-2010, 07:08 PM	#2
Flex Gunmetal Icy Fresh Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: COLORADO Posts: 3,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: Francis Daytona	Bear in mind he played for the Denver Broncos.

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DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,986 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	It would be cool if Lawrence Taylor was the best defensive player ever but he isn't so why the **** is he on that list?

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extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,987	I like how Otto Graham is on this list, but he wasn't on their list of best QBs ever, which was like twenty deep. I stopped ranking QBs when I got to 3 and couldn't find Graham.

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DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,986 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games. I would take him over coke head any Sunday.

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TDmvp Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,092	and stuff like this is why Espn can suck a bag of Di#ks ... Taylor was to me over rated and benefited a lot from a scheme that was ahead of it's time in N.Y. ... I'd rather have Singletary ...

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BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,681 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	ESPN is the equivalent to the retarded kid whose mother makes the school or city league sports put her kid on the field. he is there, and he tries hard, but at the end of the day, he has no idea what the hell he is doing with that in mind, who gives a damn what they think?

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Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,603 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Who made this list. Gil Brandt?

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Maybe it's a faulty perception, but I don't remember Reggie White being feared the way LT was. I don't know if LT is the best defensive player in history, but he was certainly one of the most intimidating ones.

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Also, I voted in complete crap order just to screw with it. Not that it made even a dent, but...

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Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,542 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	I think the problem is ESPN is such a force that they shape public perception, particularly for those that weren't there to watch these players.