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Old 01-26-2010, 12:50 PM   #1
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If the Colts win the Super Bowl and Manning gets his second and Jim Caldwell gets his first. Does it take the glimmer off Tony Dungy as a Super Bowl coach?

Or does Jim Caldwell fall into the George Seifert/Barry Switzer coaching realm?
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:52 PM   #2
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I never gave Dungy credit to begin with
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Maybe just a tad. Dungy is still the only head coach in NFL history to lead a club to 10 straight postseason appearances. He has a comparable career to John Madden and George Allen.
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BTW, George Seifert is not in the same boat with Barry Switzer and doesn't get enough credit for his eight years of fine coaching with the 49ers.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:57 PM   #5
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will be the second time dungy's team won a superbowl the year after he left it. I think people know dungy has had significant amounts of failures in big games. dungy is admired for a lot more things than bringing home superbowls.
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BTW, George Seifert is not in the same boat with Barry Switzer and doesn't get enough credit for his eight years of fine coaching with the 49ers.
Just basing on the transtion of Super Bowl coaching teams. Same question could be used last year for Mike Tomlin.
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Sure his rep takes a hit but he builds teams and leaves them in good shape.
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I don't think Dungy's rep takes a hit, it is not like Caldwell took over the team and reformed it, they are still playing the players Dungy left and the system he started - if they go on a Patriots like streak of winning several super bowls Dungy's rep will take a hit, but it won't for just 1 super bowl appearance.
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Sure his rep takes a hit but he builds teams and leaves them in good shape.
Except it was Polian and Mora who picked Manning, Harrison, Wayne and deserve the credit for most of it.
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I get sick of all of the talking heads falling all over themselves in their haste to worship at the altar of Tony Dungy. Saying that...he also turned the Tampa franchise around. They went from a laughing stock to a contender during his tenure there. He was successful prior to hooking up with the Colts.

No damage will be done to his sickeningly squeaky clean image. All that's happening now is Manning further cementing his place amongst the top 5 quarterbacks of all time. Probably top three.
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Agreed. Nor have i heard many people toot his horn on the level of Shanny, Cowher, etc..
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Dungy gave the Cadillac keys to the new owner. Why would he lose any cred? He helped build that team to what it is today. Does Jimmy Johnson lose cred for having Switzer take over when the Cowboys were still dominate? Barry couldnt screw that thing up.
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Why should Dungy's rep take a hit? Caldwell inherited a team assembled by Dungy. Peyton's the coach of the team anyway. They'd still be where there at now.

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Why should Dungy's rep take a hit? Caldwell in herited ta team assembled by BILL POLIAN. Peyton's the coach of the team anyway. They'd still be where there at now.
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True. Point being, the team was assembled for Caldwell. All he had to do was not **** it up.
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True. Point being, the team was assembled for Caldwell. All he had to do was not **** it up.
Same for his predecessor.

This isn't to take anything away from Dungy. He executed well and had his team prepared. I certainly don't consider him among the greats though. If a better mind had his hand on a team with Peyton Manning for a decade, I think there's a lot more opportunity for more than 1 ring.
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Same for his predecessor.

This isn't to take anything away from Dungy. He executed well and had his team prepared. I certainly don't consider him among the greats though. If a better mind had his hand on a team with Peyton Manning for a decade, I think there's a lot more opportunity for more than 1 ring.
I think he would have won more then just the one ring if the NFL would have caught the Pats video taping practices sooner.
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I am not going tosay that dungy would loose credit for his teams not preforming in the big game as this has been pretty well documented in TB and Indy but you have to give him credit for building a team and a franchise really in both cities.
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Most over-rated coach in the history of coaching, imo.
The Colts are NO WHERE without Manning regardless of their coach imo.

No Super Bowl win, no 10 seasons of playoffs.
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Manning openly states that the coaches send in plays and he decides whether to go with it or choose something of his own. Any coach of the Colts is second to Manning at that point.
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then explain the success with TB? are you telling me that Trent dilfer was the reason he was such a good coach? Give the guy his due, he is a good coach maybe a little over rated but still a good coach.
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Most over-rated coach in the history of coaching, imo.
110% disagree! TB was the laughing stock of the NFL before Dungy got there!
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then explain the success with TB? are you telling me that Trent dilfer was the reason he was such a good coach? Give the guy his due, he is a good coach maybe a little over rated but still a good coach.
No one claimed he wasn't a good coach, but from the media he's a first ballot lock HoF coach and perhaps Jesus Christ reincarnate.
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