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View Poll Results: At what point did you want McD gone as HC?
From the second he took the job 6 3.90%
After free agency 1 0.65%
After trading Cutler 27 17.53%
After the draft 5 3.25%
After the offseason-Marshall situation began 0 0%
After the 1st 4-game losing streak 0 0%
After the Marshall/Scheffler benching 6 3.90%
After the KC loss 10 6.49%
After Nolan's resignation 14 9.09%
I've wanted McD here since his hire and still want him here 85 55.19%
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:23 PM   #1
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:02 PM   #2
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I have backed the idea that we can't let a coach go after only one season (and that you have to give any coach three to implement his system), but Nolan wanting to bail is pretty concerning. All the whispers that came out about the locker room being divided suddenly ring a little truer. I don't know how we can attract the free agents that we need in order to get to the next step in this environment.

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Old 01-18-2010, 11:09 PM   #3
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I was pretty late on the bandwagon (lost a little faith after Oak, a ton after KC, and everything after Nolan). At some point though, you have to hold him accountable for what happens under his watch, he can't play victim forever.
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:09 PM   #4
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Honestly, I didnt want him here in the first place. Wanted a coach who would work on fixing the defense and not ****ing with the offense. Spag or Ryan being my top 2. Did not want McD anywhere near here. And now here we are. And there the Jets are. Spag gets a couple mulligan years, for the complete **** he inherited.
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Honestly, I didnt want him here in the first place. Wanted a coach who would work on fixing the defense and not ****ing with the offense. Spag or Ryan being my top 2. Did not want McD anywhere near here. And now here we are. And there the Jets are. Spag gets a couple mulligan years, for the complete **** he inherited.
In hindsight, Ryan looks like one of the best head coaches in the NFL... along with a really disarming personality.
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Even I though McD would be better than this.

Its like he didnt come along with Pioli because we wanted him to infiltrate the enemy and destroy it from within before he comes to KC as an overpaid QB coach after next year when the Broncos finish with 4 wins or so.

Should be interesting.
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In hindsight, Ryan looks like one of the best head coaches in the NFL... along with a really disarming personality.
The shocker is why did it take Rex so long to become a HC ??...He sure would have looked great in orange and blue!!
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Hey Taco...Since you are around and this is a Poll thread....

I can see who voted for what in public polls before I vote, but once I vote I only see the results...Not the voters. Is that the norm or is there a setting I'm missing in user CP somewhere?
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McDaniels gets at least next year.

We played I think four teams two seasons ago that were playoff teams and most the remainder on our schedule were garbage and finished 8-8. This year we played 4 teams that weren't playoff teams and many we played in their house and almost won (Colts, Eagles) and we finished 8-8. I think that speaks volumes. '08's team would have finished no better than 5 wins this year. Especially with Slowik in command.

I'm still really pissed about losing to the Raiders. I'm upset that our scoring offense got worse and I'm upset we aren't using Royal and others as well as we might. While it's still early, his draft looks underwhelming at this point. And giving up a first round pick for Alphonso does not look like it's paying off even close to what he banked on.

I still support trading Cutler the int machine, and I still think firing Shanahan was the right choice. The question is was hiring McDaniels the wrong choice? I think it's early to say. He's had a lot to deal with and is a rookie so I think he gets a pass on some things. I was very impressed with his press conference at the end of the season when he owned up to things. The thing is we can't wait forever for this guy to "get it." I will allow him one more offseason of turnover. We should have an easier schedule and the players will be more comfortable in this system. If we improve significantly than he should stay. If we fold again at the end of the year he should be fired. I just want to see the team play well late in the year for a change.
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The shocker is why did it take Rex so long to become a HC ??...He sure would have looked great in orange and blue!!
So long?

He only spent 4 years as a DC dude... and he was interviewing for jobs 2 years ago when Sparano and Mike Smith got hired.

He's had a pretty remarkable rise this decade.
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Hey Taco...Since you are around and this is a Poll thread....

I can see who voted for what in public polls before I vote, but once I vote I only see the results...Not the voters. Is that the norm or is there a setting I'm missing in user CP somewhere?
Click the blue numbers and it will tell you who voted. I just figured that out a couple days ago
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Hey Taco...Since you are around and this is a Poll thread....

I can see who voted for what in public polls before I vote, but once I vote I only see the results...Not the voters. Is that the norm or is there a setting I'm missing in user CP somewhere?
That's a new one for me. I've never head that one before.
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Is it just me or does he seem to always want to fix the side of the ball that isn't a problem?

Year 1 - Terrible defense, young talented offense... trade the QB

Year 2- Top 10 defense, underwhelming offense... part ways with the D Coordinator

I don't get it...
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Is it just me or does he seem to always want to fix the side of the ball that isn't a problem?

Year 1 - Terrible defense, young talented offense... trade the QB

Year 2- Top 10 defense, underwhelming offense... part ways with the D Coordinator

I don't get it...
Next year... look out special teams.
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I have backed the idea that we can't let a coach go after only one season (and that you have to give any coach three to implement his system), but Nolan wanting to bail is pretty concerning. All the whispers that came out about the locker room being divided suddenly ring a little truer. I don't know how we can attract the free agents that we need in order to get to the next step in this environment.
There's no trust in McDaniels.
This mistrust began the minute he got rid of Mike Leach and replaced him with his buddy Lonnie Paxton from New England.
That set the tone.

To have another DC for next year that can improve upon what Nolan did, will be a tall order, and a tough task for anyone.
Look for McDaniels to screw up the draft again. Look for him to try to get players to replace Marshall, Scheffler, Hillis...
The defense will be patched up again with one-year FA players.

I've never seen a football team go thru so much **** in just one year.
Players leaving, players being alienated, players being suspended for "behavior" issues, players meeting to rat out on other players, coaches not wanting to work for McDaniels, and the list goes on and on...
What scares me the most is that this is only the tip of the iceberg.
I can't wait to see what would transpire in the off-season, in the FA signing period, in the signing of our own players, in the draft.
Boy, oh boy. What a mess!!!
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Is it just me or does he seem to always want to fix the side of the ball that isn't a problem?

Year 1 - Terrible defense, young talented offense... trade the QB

Year 2- Top 10 defense, underwhelming offense... part ways with the D Coordinator

I don't get it...
Just wait until the draft.
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Next year... look out special teams.
Only if we have good special teams...

My fear is the all-screen offense will click this season and he will trade Clady. Due to philisophical differences of course.
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McDaniels is a douche and I have hated his guts from day one because he is Patsie scum, but I am willing to give him the length of his contract to show what he can do.
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Just wait until the draft.
Trade Marshall and draft a left tackle...
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Trade Marshall and draft a left tackle...
Can you imagine if we draft Spiller at 10 or 11 now that would be fun.
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Can you imagine if we draft Spiller at 10 or 11 now that would be fun.
Nothing would surprise me at this point...
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This deep you kinda have to stick it out another year to see if there's any method to the madness.

That being said, if I were Bowlen, I'd have McDaniels ****-canned and an offer to in to Nolan before his plane touched down in Miami.
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What this team needs is a blocking TE. I hope we can get one.
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Honestly, I didnt want him here in the first place. Wanted a coach who would work on fixing the defense and not ****ing with the offense. Spag or Ryan being my top 2. Did not want McD anywhere near here. And now here we are. And there the Jets are. Spag gets a couple mulligan years, for the complete **** he inherited.
You do realize that Spags would have cleaned house on everyone, including Bates, Turner and Dennison, right? You also realize it's extremely likely that not only would he have traded Cutler away after his little outburst, but Marshall and probably Scheffler would have been gone as well.
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