Shonn Greene... - The Orange Mane

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:23 PM

Hmmmmm... nice third round value there. Openly dominating the Chargers right now.

bowtown · 01-17-2010, 04:25 PM

Hmmmm... nice interior offensive line there. Dominating the line of scrimmage right now.

Kid A · 01-17-2010, 04:27 PM

Yep. There are talented players drafted in later rounds. Crazy stuff.

Doggcow · 01-17-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Hmmmm... nice interior offensive line there. Dominating the line of scrimmage right now.

Lol exactly. People ignoring the fact that he has probably the best Oline in the NFL.

theAPAOps5 · 01-17-2010, 04:28 PM

Hmmm if you are insinuating the Broncos missed well so did every team TWICE.

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:31 PM

Not dogging anybody. Just saying he's looking great. This is also evidence that if you contemplate OVERDRAFTING a position where the annual career expectancy is 4 and half years, you're pretty foolish. Waste of resources.

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Hmmmm... nice interior offensive line there. Dominating the line of scrimmage right now.

They are playing well. We would have been smarter to take an offensive linemen at 12 last year and save our draft pick we blew on Quinn to draft Greene.

Hey, best of both worlds eh?

NYBronco · 01-17-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Hmmmm... nice interior offensive line there. Dominating the line of scrimmage right now.

Exactly!

bowtown · 01-17-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Not dogging anybody. Just saying he's looking great. This is also evidence that if you contemplate OVERDRAFTING a position where the annual career expectancy is 4 and half years, you're pretty foolish. Waste of resources.

Yeah you aren't dogging anybody...

NYBronco · 01-17-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

They are playing well. We would have been smarter to take an offensive linemen at 12 last year and save our draft pick we blew on Quinn to draft Greene.

Hey, best of both worlds eh?

If only Shanahan had dumped Slowick.

rastaman · 01-17-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Lol exactly. People ignoring the fact that he has probably the best Oline in the NFL.

Yep the Jets owner and fans had to endure a couple of lossing seasons inorder to draft high enough to build up their OL.

These Jets sure werent having 8-8, 9-7, or 7-9 seasons over the last 4 or 5 years while building the the best OL in the NFL.

Can the Broncos fans endure some 3-5 win seasons over the next 2 or 3 years in order to draft high enough some great OL men?

rastaman · 01-17-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronco

If only Shanahan had dumped Slowick.

Yep! Nolan was there for the taking.

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:37 PM

We can't talk about what was. We can only talk about what is.

Shonn Greene is a better pure HB than Knowshon, built for power and his game is tailor made for the NFL. He was also selected two rounds later.

A majority of us said this would be the case. Still hurts to watch though.

Oh well. Come on Richard Quinn. We need you to have more catches next season, than trial dates.

The MVPlaya · 01-17-2010, 04:39 PM

Give credit to that oline - on that long run he wasn't TOUCHED until the broken tackle...that is some nice blocking.

NYBronco · 01-17-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

Yep! Nolan was there for the taking.

And Shanahan couldn't see through his arrogance.

The MVPlaya · 01-17-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

We can't talk about what was. We can only talk about what is.

Shonn Greene is a better pure HB than Knowshon, built for power and his game is tailor made for the NFL. He was also selected two rounds later.

A majority of us said this would be the case. Still hurts to watch though.

Oh well. Come on Richard Quinn. We need you to have more catches next season, than trial dates.

Are you trying to say Greene would have done as well on the Broncos?

What you are watching is great oline play combined with a speedy back with some power.

Jets gets a push and win the battle of LOS just like Titans.

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:41 PM

I would venture to say that Knowshon doesn't have 1/2 the tackle breaking ability Greene has... and Shonn is what, 15 lbs heavier and has a much better second gear.

Striking.

tsiguy96 · 01-17-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

They are playing well. We would have been smarter to take an offensive linemen at 12 last year and save our draft pick we blew on Quinn to draft Greene.

Hey, best of both worlds eh?

we didnt blow any draft picks, we traded 2 3s for a 2 and a 4. why is NO ONE aware of this?

rastaman · 01-17-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronco

And Shanahan couldn't see through his arrogance.

Well the firing sure woke him up. He probably dosen't take that same arrogance with him the Wash.

Now here's hoping McD can see thru his own arrogance over the next 2 or 3 years.

bpc · 01-17-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The MVPlaya

Are you trying to say Greene would have done as well on the Broncos?

What you are watching is great oline play combined with a speedy back with some power.

Jets gets a push and win the battle of LOS just like Titans.

I'm saying that Greene would have easily had 1000 yds AND Buckhalter would have just been a 3rd down back.

Shonn Greene is the better NFL back. Knowshon is a 3rd down back.

It's a Earl Campbell vs. Sammie Winder comparison.

jayman_37 · 01-17-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The MVPlaya

Give credit to that oline - on that long run he wasn't TOUCHED until the broken tackle...that is some nice blocking.

yeah which was 8 yards down the field, it was great blocking but also a great play by Greene.

rastaman · 01-17-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

I would venture to say that Knowshon doesn't have 1/2 the tackle breaking ability Greene has... and Shonn is what, 15 lbs heavier and has a much better second gear.

Striking.

Kinda makes you wonder what good does it have to let your proven players leave the team for 1st round picks, when your may have a problem striking gold with their 1st round picks b/c they can't evaluate talent in the first place.

If the 1st round talent we draft don't turn out to pro ball talent like the pro bowlers we let leave the team....then its Denver that the long term losser.

NYBronco · 01-17-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

Well the firing sure woke him up. He probably dosen't take that same arrogance with him the Wash.

Now here's hoping McD can see thru his own arrogance over the next 2 or 3 years.

McD's a young coach and learning each day. Shanahan knows better with all his experience. He was too comfortable in his position. Whether he has learned from it has yet to be determined.

Atwater His Ass · 01-17-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Not dogging anybody. Just saying he's looking great. This is also evidence that if you contemplate OVERDRAFTING a position where the annual career expectancy is 4 and half years, you're pretty foolish. Waste of resources.

I've always thought this about drafting RB's so high. Espeacially with our historic success of not haivng to use high picks to aquire RB talent.

rastaman · 01-17-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronco

McD's a young coach and learning each day. Shanahan knows better with all his experience. He was too comfortable in his position. Whether he has learned from it has yet to be determined.

Being inexperienced is no excuse for behaving stubbornly and having a Hey look at me attitude and ego is no excuse and does not set a good precedence with your players.! Whether McD has learned from all his screw ups from his first season has yet to be determined.

Its no fluke that McD's players quit on him during the 20 point loss (44-24) to the lowly KC's. The team sent McD a message that its a 50/50 proposition and compromise if you want to win in the NFL. I think McD got the message.

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bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Shonn Greene... Hmmmmm... nice third round value there. Openly dominating the Chargers right now.

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01-17-2010, 04:25 PM	#2
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,355 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	Hmmmm... nice interior offensive line there. Dominating the line of scrimmage right now.

01-17-2010, 04:27 PM	#3
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,664 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Yep. There are talented players drafted in later rounds. Crazy stuff.

01-17-2010, 04:28 PM	#5
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,141 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Hmmm if you are insinuating the Broncos missed well so did every team TWICE.

01-17-2010, 04:31 PM	#6
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Not dogging anybody. Just saying he's looking great. This is also evidence that if you contemplate OVERDRAFTING a position where the annual career expectancy is 4 and half years, you're pretty foolish. Waste of resources.

01-17-2010, 04:37 PM	#13
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	We can't talk about what was. We can only talk about what is. Shonn Greene is a better pure HB than Knowshon, built for power and his game is tailor made for the NFL. He was also selected two rounds later. A majority of us said this would be the case. Still hurts to watch though. Oh well. Come on Richard Quinn. We need you to have more catches next season, than trial dates.

01-17-2010, 04:39 PM	#14
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Give credit to that oline - on that long run he wasn't TOUCHED until the broken tackle...that is some nice blocking.

01-17-2010, 04:41 PM	#17
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I would venture to say that Knowshon doesn't have 1/2 the tackle breaking ability Greene has... and Shonn is what, 15 lbs heavier and has a much better second gear. Striking.