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Old 01-11-2010, 10:03 AM   #1
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As Paulie Walnuts once said, "Somebody needs to go." It seems such is the situation in Philly.

Both McNabb and Kolb have a year left on their deals. Something may need to happen. Especially with another playoff disappointment.

The question: would you trade a mid-round pick for McNabb? Would you trade our first round pick for Kolb, who is young and looked good limited appearances? Would you do neither? If neither, do you stick with Orton or go a different route for a QB upgrade?

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As Paulie Walnuts once said, "Somebody needs to go." It seems such is the situation in Philly.

Both McNabb and Kolb have a year left on their deals. Something may need to happen. Especially with another playoff disappointment.

The question: would you trade a mid-round pick for McNabb? Would you trade our first round pick for Kolb, who is young and looked good limited appearances? Would you do neither? If neither, do you stick with Orton or go a different route for a QB upgrade?

Discuss.
I'm not a McNabb fan at all, and I'm not an Orton hater, but if he (McNabb) could be had for a mid round pick, I'd jump all over that.

I have to plead ignorance on Kolb, haven't seen him play.
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Philly won't let Kolb go, and giving up our first would be asinine.

McNabb doesn't really make sense to bring in either. Orton was up and down this year, but he deserves another shot to be the starter next season.

Draft a mid-late round guy to sit for the year and develop alongside Brandstater.
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I wouldn't give up a #1 for either. A #2 I'd probably consider for McNabb, not certain on Kolb. But I don't think they'll let either go this offseason.
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I'd take the kid from Fordham, Skelton, with our 6th.
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I would love to have McNabb I think he is a gamer and I think Andy Reid is more responsible for the Eagles failures than McNabb.
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What exactly has Kolb done that Brandstater hasn't done? Am I missing something here? Why in the hell would you give a high pick away for somebody that hasn't done jack in the NFL (even though they may look promising) when you already have a young QB who shows signs of promise?

And NO on McNabb. I think he's a step above Orton but this team is trying to build a future, not get somebody in here who might last 2 more years in the league.
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Philly won't let Kolb go, and giving up our first would be asinine.

McNabb doesn't really make sense to bring in either. Orton was up and down this year, but he deserves another shot to be the starter next season.

Draft a mid-late round guy to sit for the year and develop alongside Brandstater.
Unsure why McNabb doesn't make sense. Huge upgrade with enough left in the tank while we develop younger talent.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:23 AM   #10
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What exactly has Kolb done that Brandstater hasn't done? Am I missing something here? Why in the hell would you give a high pick away for somebody that hasn't done jack in the NFL (even though they may look promising) when you already have a young QB who shows signs of promise?

And NO on McNabb. I think he's a step above Orton but this team is trying to build a future, not get somebody in here who might last 2 more years in the league.
I like Brandstater. But Kolb has played well and won in real NFL games.

Although I would like Brandy to be given a legit shot at competing to start.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:23 AM   #11
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Mcnabb would be an amazing pick up!!! 2nd or 3rd rounder would be a great trade for him..

No way they let him go for such a low price, but maybe....

Let Mcnabb use the rest of the gas he has left (2-3 years) and let Tom B. or Skelton or whoever we draft develop. Man that would be awesome. Also Orton would be gone!! Hurray!!
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He is not going anywhere, thread over.

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Yes, because what Reid says in January is etched in stone and not at all coach speak. And it also answers the question about Kolb.
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What exactly has Kolb done that Brandstater hasn't done? Am I missing something here? Why in the hell would you give a high pick away for somebody that hasn't done jack in the NFL (even though they may look promising) when you already have a young QB who shows signs of promise?

And NO on McNabb. I think he's a step above Orton but this team is trying to build a future, not get somebody in here who might last 2 more years in the league.
Played in a regular season game?

Moved up the depth chart?

That's just a couple things you missed...
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Man, Kolb would be ****ing AMAZING.
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Yes, because what Reid says in January is etched in stone and not at all coach speak. And it also answers the question about Kolb.
Go ahead and dream/waste your time. I know your speculation is greater insite than what the head coach has said to the media.
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If we trade for Mcnabb we have let to Orton go.

I wouldn't like the trade, Mcdaniels doesn't run a WC offense and that is what Mcnabb is versed in so he would have a learning curve, he is also at an age and injury risk where he is not a long term answer to anything, so I just don't see it working.
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I wouldn't give up a 1st rounder for Kolb, but anything else I wouldn't turn away. He didn't look bad when he replaced McNabb and he knows the west coast. Dunno how similar it is to McD's scheme, but can't be that far off.

1st 2 starts threw for over 300 yards...vs Saints and Chiefs...early in the season. 1st time ever a QB has had over 300 yards in 1st 2 starts.
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I's take McNabb provided he wasn't going to lose any games.
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I's take McNabb provided he wasn't going to lose any games.
I'd take a Chris Simms if he weren't gonna lose a game...but he's obviously color blind so it won't work.
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I've always been a McNabb fan. The guy has been a very good QB over the years. I'd be against sending a high round pick for him, mostly because he's starting to get up there in age, but I'd be all for a mid round pick. The guy is way better than Orton. It's not even close. If a deal like that is on the table, any team who needs a QB would be foolish not to take it.
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Orton was up and down this year, but he deserves another shot to be the starter next season.
God help us...
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He ranked between number 10 and 15 in pretty much every category they have for assessing quarterbacks.

First year, new system, new teammates... it's hardly a terrible season by any means.

I'm not crowning him as the future of the franchise by any means, just saying you don't give up on a guy who was better than the league average in pretty much every way after one year.
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He ranked between number 10 and 15 in pretty much every category they have for assessing quarterbacks.

First year, new system, new teammates... it's hardly a terrible season by any means.

I'm not crowning him as the future of the franchise by any means, just saying you don't give up on a guy who was better than the league average in pretty much every way after one year.
Not to mention he was actually being seriously discussed as an MVP candidate up until he got hurt in the 'Skins game.
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Not to mention he was actually being seriously discussed as an MVP candidate up until he got hurt in the 'Skins game.
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