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Old 01-09-2010, 09:16 AM   #1
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Just came across this site. Obviously it is VERY early in the process, but at least some decent discussion material regarding the draft and our 3-4.

http://www.newerascouting.com/defens...defensive-end/

2010 3-4 DE Rankings

OVR Pos. Rank Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. Proj. Rd. Stock
1 1 Ndamukon Suh 3-4 DE Nebraska 6-4 302 Top 10 same
5 2 Gerald McCoy 3-4 DE Oklahoma 6-4 295 Top 10 up
24 3 Corey Wootton 3-4 DE Northwestern 6-6 280 1 same
55 4 Tyson Alualu 3-4 DE California 6-2 295 2 same
90 5 D’Anthony Smith 3-4 DE Louisiana Tech 6-2 300 3 same
120 6 Alex Carrington 3-4 DE Arkansas State 6-5 284 4 same
174 7 Jeffrey Fitzgerald 3-4 DE Kansas State 6-4 280 6 same
212 8 John Fletcher 3-4 DE Wyoming 6-6 272 7 same
229 9 Doug Worthington 3-4 DE Ohio State 6-5 276 7 same
248 10 Greg Middleton 3-4 DE Indiana 6-3 284 FA down

http://www.newerascouting.com/defens...s/nose-tackle/

2010 NT Rankings

OVR Pos. Rank Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. Proj. Rd. Stock
28 1 Dan Williams NT Tennessee 6-2 327 1 up
37 2 Terrence Cody NT Alabama 6-4 365 2 same
62 3 Lamarr Houston NT Texas 6-2 300 2 up
115 4 Mike Neal NT Purdue 6-3 302 4 same
132 5 Torrell Troup NT UCF 6-3 314 4 same
223 6 Jeff Owens NT Georgia 6-1 306 7 down
249 7 Jay Ross NT East Carolina 6-3 314 FA same
279 8 Brandon Deadrick NT Alabama 6-4 296 FA down
291 9 Cam Thomas NT North Carolina 6-3 328 FA down

http://www.newerascouting.com/defens...de-linebacker/

2010 3-4 OLB Ratings

OVR Pos. Rank Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. Proj. Rd. Stock
12 1 Sergio Kindle 3-4 OLB Texas 6-4 255 1 up
14 2 Brandon Graham 3-4 OLB Michigan 6-1 263 1 same
15 3 Greg Hardy 3-4 OLB Ole Miss 6-4 265 1 injury
19 4 Ricky Sapp 3-4 OLB Clemson 6-4 248 1 same
20 5 Eric Norwood 3-4 OLB South Carolina 6-0 252 1 same
31 6 Jerry Hughes 3-4 OLB TCU 6-2 257 1 same
65 7 George Selvie 3-4 OLB South Florida 6-4 245 2 down
92 8 Jermaine Cunningham 3-4 OLB Florida 6-3 252 3 same
139 9 Danny Batten 3-4 OLB South Dakota State 6-3 250 4 up
142 10 Koa Misi 3-4 OLB Utah 6-2 263 4 same

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Old 01-09-2010, 09:20 AM   #2
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I'd like to see Denver end up with one or two of those NT's.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:24 AM   #3
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I'd like to see Denver end up with one or two of those NT's.
We only need one.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:28 AM   #4
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Big drop off after Suh and McCoy, and no chance at Suh but McCoy could be there. It makes more sense because there isn't a chance in hell MdDaniel's will take a QB with the top pick, less of a chance of getting burned...
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:49 AM   #5
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MOUNT CODY!!!!!!!! He was awesome in the BCS championship. Did you see when he moved the center, guard, and quarterback completely backwards on third and 1?
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:58 AM   #6
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These rankings are flawed.

1st of all, I think Suh is a better fit at NT in a 3-4, than 3-4 DE. Just my opinion but that's where his strength is at. He's not a laterally defenders like a 3-4 DE would need to be and his speed up the field will not generate a huge pass rush when lined up in a 5 technique.

That's one of the reasons why I think McCoy is a great fit for the 3-4. He's actually played the position at OU, along with all along the LOS, and has more athletic ability than Suh.

The fact that Jason Pierre-Paul at OLB is not on this list is a joke. Let me first credit Mediator, as he notified me of this guy in the draft thread. I did some research on the guy and he has elite size, speed, and athletic abilility coming off the edge of a defense. He's not polished and has only been playing football about four seasons but somebody is going to take a chance on this guy early. I would easily say he's a better fit than Ricky Sapp, Brandon Graham (too big), and even Greg Hardy at OLB. No doubt in my mind.

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Someone to hog up 2 of the interior offensive linemen would do wonders for the defense.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:17 AM   #8
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Only four years playing football... not polished but he'll probably run a 4.6 to 4.7, he's 6'6", 265lbs, and is primarily a former basketball player. He has a 81 inch wingspan.
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Suh would be a great pick to play DT for a 4-3 team. I don't think he would do well at NT in a 3-4.

The Broncos need at least one DE and probably a NT, but whether any of the guys other than the top 2-3 will do anything is a crapshoot of course.

Broncos need a playmaker on defense somewhere in the front seven at least.
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By the way... not that he is mentioned here

But why is everyone so high on Rolando McClain? I've watched a few videos of him and he doesn't seem anywhere near as impressive as the scouting reports I've read.

Has anyone here spent much time watching him?
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I would love Brandon Graham if he falls to the 2nd round. I hate Michigan defensive linemen more than I hate ants in my underwear, but Graham would be a great B across from Dumervil and it would allow us to bulk up Ayers and move him to DE where he is better suited.
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I think Kindle will be a bust, the guy just seems to get by on his speed and talent rather than have anything else to work with.
I think Wootton would be a good pick up in the late 1st if we get into that range somehow.
Ideally, get McCoy in the 1st to play DE, and then hope Cody falls in round 2 to us.
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Mount Cody, please.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:08 PM   #14
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Jeremy Beal out of OU to me looks like an amazing prospect at OLB in a 3-4. The guy has been a quiet monster for OU the past 3 or 4 years.

Has anyone seen him being mentioned? I don't know how severe his injury was in the Sun Bowl, but I feel as though he's being overlooked.
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Suh would be a great pick to play DT for a 4-3 team. I don't think he would do well at NT in a 3-4.
The Broncos need at least one DE and probably a NT, but whether any of the guys other than the top 2-3 will do anything is a crapshoot of course.

Broncos need a playmaker on defense somewhere in the front seven at least.
Suh isn't projected to play NT, he's projected to play DE in a 3-4. So if by some miracle he's there at our pick he would fill the need for DE. Where is he projected to play NT?
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Trade Bmarsh for a high first and get McCoy. Then Get McClain with our first. And pray mount Cody falls to our second rounder.

Defense=Fixed.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:32 PM   #17
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ILB is a must this year. Ronando McClain and Brandon Spikes are my first two choices. Phillip Dillard is a guy I seen make lots of plays and improve as they year went along for the Huskers. He might be a late round guy worth looking at. Pelini really lit a fire under his ass by benching him to start the season.
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We traded Mt. Cody to Seattle.
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Do you think Cody will go in round 1.
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This is the best Mock Draft Site I've seen:

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By the way... not that he is mentioned here

But why is everyone so high on Rolando McClain? I've watched a few videos of him and he doesn't seem anywhere near as impressive as the scouting reports I've read.

Has anyone here spent much time watching him?
I agree. I'm not impressed either. He seems to be a big guy who doesn't take angles, has average speed at best and gets lost on many plays. Not the guy I want.
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Man you must not watch the SEC!! Rolando McClain finished this season with 104 tackles, 4 sacks and 2 picks. That guys is 6-4 260 and plays with nothing but his instincts which allows him to take proper angles. The only thing that would make him fall is if he runs a 4.7 in the forty then he will drop to second round.
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By the way... not that he is mentioned here

But why is everyone so high on Rolando McClain? I've watched a few videos of him and he doesn't seem anywhere near as impressive as the scouting reports I've read.

Has anyone here spent much time watching him?
I agree, his tackling kinda sucks IMO... What is his big strength?
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By the way... not that he is mentioned here

But why is everyone so high on Rolando McClain? I've watched a few videos of him and he doesn't seem anywhere near as impressive as the scouting reports I've read.

Has anyone here spent much time watching him?
I watch footage of him the other day (some poster was rave'n about him) and I wasn't impressed at all. He's a bigger ILB, but he looked slow and being slow in College will only look worse in the NFL.

McClain will need a big front 4 or 3 infront of him, he doesn't shed blockers well and gets caughtr up in traffic.


I just don't see the hype in him.
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