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Old 01-08-2010, 05:39 PM   #1
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Default What Is a Franchise Quarterback Exactly?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...erback-exactly

Franchise quarterback. You hear it all the time, you can't look up a team without finding articles about getting a "franchise quarterback."

It's everywhere. "This team found it's franchise QB. This team needs a franchise QB." You can't escape it.

But what is a franchise quarterback?

It's odd that you see a word tossed around so much, but no one knows the exact meaning. Everyone talks about who is a franchise QB, but not what is a franchise QB is. You can't label a franchise QB unless you know what it is.

After research about people who are labeled as "franchise quarterbacks" and those who aren't considered as such.

The player must match certain criteria to be considered a franchise quarterback: consistency, talent, leadership/maturity, and football intelligence.

Up-and-Coming Franchise Quarterbacks

Matt Ryan—Atlanta Falcons- All criteria, needs another year

Joe Flacco—Baltimore Ravens- All criteria, needs another year

Matt Cassel—Kansas City Chiefs- All criteria, needs another year

Jay Cutler—Chicago Bears- All criteria, new team

Kyle Orton—Denver Broncos- All criteria, new team

Carson Palmer—Cincinnati Bengals- Needs to stay healthy

Trent Edwards—Buffalo Bills- Needs consistency

Jason Campbell—Washington Redskins- Needs consistency

David Garrard—Jacksonville Jaguars- Needs consistency

Matt Schaub—Houston Texans- Needs to stay healthy

Kerry Collins—Tennessee Titans- Needs consistency

Matt Hasselbeck—Seattle Seahawks- Needs consistency/stay healthy


I do not know if the bleacher report is worth reading, but I found this interesting. Please discuss.
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Kerry Collins...among others...is 'up and coming'?

The dude can apply for social security in 3 years.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...erback-exactly

Franchise quarterback. You hear it all the time, you can't look up a team without finding articles about getting a "franchise quarterback."

It's everywhere. "This team found it's franchise QB. This team needs a franchise QB." You can't escape it.

But what is a franchise quarterback?

It's odd that you see a word tossed around so much, but no one knows the exact meaning. Everyone talks about who is a franchise QB, but not what is a franchise QB is. You can't label a franchise QB unless you know what it is.

After research about people who are labeled as "franchise quarterbacks" and those who aren't considered as such.

The player must match certain criteria to be considered a franchise quarterback: consistency, talent, leadership/maturity, and football intelligence.

Jay Cutler—Chicago Bears- All criteria, new team

Kyle Orton—Denver Broncos- All criteria, new team
Since I'm sure these are the two everyone is going to be talking about...I don't think either has the criteria, in my opinion.

Cutler lacks consistency and leadership/maturity.

Orton lacks consistency and talent.

Neither are a franchise QB.
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WTF?

Franchise QB's?

Tom Brady
Peton Manning
Drew Beees
Phillip Rivers
Brett Favor
Rodgers
Kurt Warner
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Since I'm sure these are the two everyone is going to be talking about...I don't think either has the criteria, in my opinion.

Cutler lacks consistency and leadership/maturity.

Orton lacks consistency and talent.

Neither are a franchise QB.
This.
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:00 PM   #7
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WTF?

Franchise QB's?

Tom Brady
Peton Manning
Drew Beees
Phillip Rivers
Brett Favor
Rodgers
Kurt Warner
Eli and Rothlesberger??
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Eli and Rothlesberger??
I'm sooooo glad you did not say Rodgers cause I would love to have him as a QB.....

By the way, I would also take Rothlesberger in a heart beat.
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it's a quarterback you can open up a mcdonalds with.
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Eli and Rothlesberger??
He is the 9th QB to win 2 super bowls in his 5 year career.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_t...l_quarterbacks
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Rothburger. He's a stud.

Eli, no.
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The article aside, "franchise quarterback" is probably one of the most loosely used and really flat out misused words in the NFL vernacular these days. When people start using it on a guy like Jay Cutler, the moniker has totally lost its meaning.

A franchise QB should be a guy that is the clear centerpiece of your offense and can undoubtedly win games for you on his own. In other words, the presence of said QB is good for several wins per season, just based on what he's able to accomplish.

Obviously, you need to see a few years of performance before calling someone a franchise QB. The stats have to be there, and by stats I mean.... wins. It's got nothing to do with yardage stats. (Though those generally accompany the scenario, to some extent.)

There are a lot of very talented QBs that I wouldn't call franchise QBs just yet. Aaron Rogers is one of them. Rivers, on the other hand... is absolutely one of them. But, that's just subjective opinion.

San Diego would be dog**** without Rivers. With him, they're a real playoff threat. THAT is a franchise QB. Not just some guy who flings the ball and puts up stats.

We're actually lucky as fans right now to be watching the game at a time where there are arguably 6-7 of these types playing. That's not always the case.

I'm also of the belief that you don't have to have a franchise QB to win it all, but of course... it sure helps.
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It's a QB that you can trust your franchise with...due to Talent #1, Leadership Ability @2, Football IQ #3. During a player's first 5-6yrs I think you have to go off of their talent and potential Leadership and Football IQ. Once they have all three working for them...you end up with a Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Brett Favre etc.

I definitely think Cutler fits the mold. Whether he is one...will be determined over the next couple of years.

I don't think that Orton has the talent and I'm not sure he has the leadership to go with it either. You can be a nice guy that everybody likes, but if you don't have the talent that instills confidence in your teammates....you're not going to lead them anywhere. I would classify Orton as a "Journeyman" QB. He's a guy who can manage an offense, not make mistakes and allow your other leaders to win games for you.
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Obviously... neither Cutler or Orton are franchise QBs. Both could wind up winning playoff games in some capacity, but neither are remotely close to being franchise QBs and probably never will be.
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So if everyone agrees that KO isn't a "Franchise" QB then shouldn't we sell our soul this draft for one?
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So if everyone agrees that KO isn't a "Franchise" QB then shouldn't we sell our soul this draft for one?

Is there one/franchise QB in this draft?
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Bradford...if his shoulder can stay healthy, i think he could be.
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So if everyone agrees that KO isn't a "Franchise" QB then shouldn't we sell our soul this draft for one?
I think trying to find one is always intelligent, obviously.

However, building up a team so that QB can step in and be effective is also intelligent. (Pittsburgh, New England, etc.)
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Is there one/franchise QB in this draft?
Don't ask me... hell I thought Cutler was. I'm probably the worst person to ask about QB's

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I think trying to find one is always intelligent, obviously.

However, building up a team so that QB can step in and be effective is also intelligent. (Pittsburgh, New England, etc.)
I understand what you are saying but any QB coming out of college is going to take 2-3 years to mature. A lot of building can go on during that time. You hate to have a team all in place only to piss away your window waiting for Elway Jr. to get his feet under him.
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So if everyone agrees that KO isn't a "Franchise" QB then shouldn't we sell our soul this draft for one?
I think that the cost is too high this year. Bradford will be gone and so will Clausen. However, I would love to see us pick up Colt McCoy or another player like him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

What's really disappointing is that McD's offense has set the team back. We dont know what we have and what we dont have. If Bradford happened to magically be there, I would be ticked if McD passed him up and drafted a TE or some such stupidity (with the way that McD and his staff handled the last offseason and draft, I wouldnt doubt it). However, I'm hoping that the Broncos spend this offseason taking seriously the job of controlling the line of scrimmage.
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I think that the cost is too high this year. Bradford will be gone and so will Clausen. However, I would love to see us pick up Colt McCoy or another player like him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

What's really disappointing is that McD's offense has set the team back. We dont know what we have and what we dont have. If Bradford happened to magically be there, I would be ticked if McD passed him up and drafted a TE or some such stupidity (with the way that McD and his staff handled the last offseason and draft, I wouldnt doubt it). However, I'm hoping that the Broncos spend this offseason taking seriously the job of controlling the line of scrimmage.
Yeah I'd be nervous about both Bradford and Clausen... But if McKidd thinks one of them are special then pull the trigger. After that it's all about fatties for both lines.
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