Colt McCoy Injury (affect on Draft?) - The Orange Mane

Doggcow · 01-07-2010, 09:16 PM

I'm not sure where he was slated to go, but if it drops him down to a 3rd or 4th round I'd be all for him.

I didn't hear exactly what happened to him. I assume a separated shoulder?

I know late season injuries usually drop peoples value. Anyone more drafty and know how this could affect his value?

SoDak Bronco · 01-07-2010, 09:27 PM

I want McClain..the dude is going to be a beast Inside MLB in our 3-4

sirhcyennek81 · 01-07-2010, 09:30 PM

Looked like a jammed shoulder. Considering this is his last game and he is going to be drafted, why make it worse?

SoDak Bronco · 01-07-2010, 09:34 PM

i felt terrible for McCoy...Then I remembered I bet Alabama so I felt happy...But sad at the same time...then happy.

OCBronco · 01-07-2010, 09:41 PM

Not sure. He said afterward that he couldn't even feel his right arm. I hope for his sake that he's okay.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-07-2010, 09:49 PM

I doubt it hurts his draft value.

hookemhess · 01-07-2010, 09:58 PM

Nah, he is fine. His insurance policy is only like $3-4m, I think. It was a business decision to not go back in. Can't blame him. Shredded shoulders destroy QB careers. Point in case, Griese.

Doggcow · 01-07-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hookemhess

Nah, he is fine. His insurance policy is only like $3-4m, I think. It was a business decision to not go back in. Can't blame him. Shredded shoulders destroy QB careers. Point in case, Griese.

Well I know it was a business decision. I was just wondering if it might knock him down a round or so depending on the severity.

Sucks it was his throwing arm.

I don't know if I would want McCoy or not at this point.

Pontius Pirate · 01-07-2010, 10:03 PM

Colt who?

ZONA · 01-07-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I want McClain..the dude is going to be a beast Inside MLB in our 3-4

diddo

hookemhess · 01-07-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Well I know it was a business decision. I was just wondering if it might knock him down a round or so depending on the severity.

Sucks it was his throwing arm.

I don't know if I would want McCoy or not at this point.

I'd rather Bradford, but wouldn't we all?

ZONA · 01-07-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hookemhess

I'd rather Bradford, but wouldn't we all?

As much as I heard months ago about him falling, on many boards he keeps creeping back up. A few sites even have him #1 to the Rams. I think he will be long gone before our pick at 11. I don't want any of the other QB's in this draft so I prefer we take McClain, if he is on the board, oh how I hope.

TexanBob · 01-07-2010, 10:15 PM

I've felt he was 2nd-3rd round material before tonight and this doesn't change my opinion except to have my doctors check him out thoroughly if I'm serious about drafting him. 95% likely he'll be fine by draft day.

I think he said he could feel his shoulder because they tried to deaden the pain so they could put him back in but I guess they decided against it.

I'm mostly sad that the injury robbed us of what might have been a classic. Certainly, it's a whole different game if he doesn't get hurt and we'll never really know who was better.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-07-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

As much as I heard months ago about him falling, on many boards he keeps creeping back up. A few sites even have him #1 to the Rams. I think he will be long gone before our pick at 11. I don't want any of the other QB's in this draft so I prefer we take McClain, if he is on the board, oh how I hope.

The idea of Bradford "falling" is just wishful thinking by fans who hope he slips back to them.

In reality, as the draft draws closer you'll see the QB's up in the top 5. If Bradford looks crisp at the combine, he'll be the first player taken.

CBF1 · 01-07-2010, 10:36 PM

He is still a 1st-2nd round pick.... 4th is dreaming

Rulon Velvet Jones · 01-07-2010, 10:38 PM

There are a number of QBs better than Colt. No way he's 1st or 2nd round.

Los Broncos · 01-07-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I want McClain..the dude is going to be a beast Inside MLB in our 3-4

I look around for some video on him, have any?

TexanBob · 01-08-2010, 12:37 AM

ESPN reporting it was a pinched nerve. Unlikely McCoy's draft status will be impacted although interested teams may give him a more thorough exam than they had originally planned.

Drek · 01-08-2010, 04:48 AM

The injury likely isn't anything severe, the biggest loss due to it was not getting to showcase himself in the national championship game. A few years back Matt Lienart was the hands down #1 QB in his class but after Vince Young torched USC in the national championship game Young went 3rd overall and Lienart slid down to 9th.

Colt McCoy had a fight on his hands to catch up to Clausen and Bradford as it was. Going into last night's game he was sitting in the same tier as Tebow and Mallett (if he comes out) and Tony Pike. He had a chance to make a strong case for him as at worst the #3 QB. Now he's got to prove it in a four way scrum against some very talented competition.

At current there is possibly an all time low for QB needs in the NFL as well. Here are the NFL teams by draft order, and my opinion on their need for QB:

St. Louis (1-15) - Need a QB, likely going to take Clausen or Bradford here.
Detroit (2-14) - Drafted Stafford last year. Set at QB.
Tampa Bay (3-13)- Drafted Freeman last year, will not take another QB in the first three rounds.
Washington (4-12)- Campbell is a free agent, likely need a QB. Very possible they'll draft one here.
Kansas City (4-12)- Have Cassell on a massive deal. Doubt they'll draft a replacement high only one season after giving him that deal.
Seattle (5-11)- Probably need a QB. But need a lot in general and Hasselback is still good when healthy.
Cleveland (5-11)- Still have Anderson and Quinn. Might draft a QB, which will lead to the jettisoning of those two QBs for other teams to scoop up as backups.
Oakland (5-11)- Need a QB once again assuming they cut Russell. Can't imagine they don't.
Buffalo (6-10)- Have a QB. Not much else, but they do have a QB.
Jacksonville^ (7-9)- Have a pretty good QB, but might draft Tebow to help sell tickets.
Denver - from Chicago^ (7-9)- We got KO, not likely to take a QB in the first round at least.
Miami (7-9)- set at QB.
San Francisco (8-8)- look pretty good at QB with Alex Smith's resurgence.
Seattle - from Denver (8-8)- see pick #6.
New York Giants (8-8)- set at QB.
Tennessee^ (8-8)- Vince Young and Kerry Collins both under contract still.
San Francisco - from Carolina^ (8-8) - see 13.
Pittsburgh (9-7) - set at QB.
Atlanta^ (9-7) - set at QB.
Houston^ (9-7) - set at QB (or so it seems a least).
New York Jets* (9-7)- set at QB.
Baltimore* (9-7)- set at QB.
Arizona* (10-6)- set at QB.
Green Bay* (11-5) - set at QB.
Cincinnati* (10-6) - set at QB.
New England* (10-6) - set at QB.
Philadelphia* (11-5)- set at QB.
Dallas* (11-5)- set at QB.
Minnesota* (12-4) - set at QB.
San Diego* (13-3)- set at QB.
New Orleans* (13-3) - set at QB.
Indianapolis* (14-2) - set at QB.

The Bears and Panthers don't have firsts. The former is locked into a QB already, the later is paying one like they are, but started a youngster over him down the stretch. They might stick with Moore or they might go looking for some competition.

So there are probably somewhere between six to eight teams who would even possibly consider QB a need in the first two or three rounds. Of that list one of them is rumored to be locked into an overpick of the home town hero (J-Ville with Tebow). Another five are picking in the top 10 (six if we beat J-Ville in the coin toss and you think we're looking to get a QB). Carolina is the one left with no 1st, and therefore probably need to make a bigger impact with their 2nd rounder.

Its entirely possible I think that we see Clausen and Bradford go in the top 10, Tebow to Jacksonville, and another QB doesn't get drafted until the early second round.

The big RFA crop could really shuffle things around though. Might be a lot more pick movement than in recent years.

Broncoman13 · 01-08-2010, 05:16 AM

Last night I focused on Rolando McClain, very impressed. That guy has incredible instincts. Not sure an Inside LB is our greatest need, but that dude is the real deal. He already has the size to play effectively in a 3-4 defense. He is a film junky and the unquestioned leader of the Tide's top ranked defense. He has incredible instincts.

All that being said, I think there is more than a small chance that Brandon Spikes is available in the 2nd round. He too would be a great option and it would allow us to draft BPA (Berry/Bradford/McCoy) in the first.

Man, this draft is so incredibly deep. We could see players such as Taylor Mays fall into the late first round. When we're talking Brandon Spikes as a middle 2nd rounder, you kind of get an idea of just how deep this draft is.

Also, don't be surprised to see Joe Haden as our first round pick.

Don't be surprised to see Jordan Shipley as our 3rd round pick. He is drawing comparisons to Wes Welker already. Kind of easy to see why the way he runs double and triple/combo routes. Very instinctive. Also a very good return man. It will be interesting to see how he runs. I'm guessing in the 4.50 range.

cousinal11 · 01-08-2010, 05:29 AM

Buffalo (6-10)- Have a QB. Not much else, but they do have a QB.

Who?

Baba Booey · 01-08-2010, 05:38 AM

McClain is an absolute stud. Fast, good size, and instincts. If Bradford doesn't fall to us he's on the top of my list.

Rohirrim · 01-08-2010, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanBob

I've felt he was 2nd-3rd round material before tonight and this doesn't change my opinion except to have my doctors check him out thoroughly if I'm serious about drafting him. 95% likely he'll be fine by draft day.

I think he said he could feel his shoulder because they tried to deaden the pain so they could put him back in but I guess they decided against it.

I'm mostly sad that the injury robbed us of what might have been a classic. Certainly, it's a whole different game if he doesn't get hurt and we'll never really know who was better.

I was just waiting for this from the Texas whiners. Alabama kicked their asses. The "3rd round material" McCoy would have made little difference. But at least the Texas whiners have something to whine about. If not this, it would have been penalties. Or the weather. Or global warming. Or something.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 01-08-2010, 05:53 AM

Come on Roh... McCoy is a pretty good QB. yes he has a good team around him, but the difference in level of play was obvious when the freshman took over for the winningest QB in college football history. I still think 'Bama would have won, but give credit where it's due.

As for McCoy, if he drops to us in the second, I'd swipe him in a heartbeat.

Rohirrim · 01-08-2010, 05:54 AM

As far as the QB question goes, I wouldn't be at all surprised if none of these QBs goes in the first round. None of them are worth the price of a top ten pick. Suh, I've etched in stone as the Rams pick. If they take anybody else, they are morons. I really like McClain, but I'm also just as afraid the Broncos will be looking at him twice a year in mustard and red. I doubt he slips past five, especially after the combine. IMO, the pick for the Broncos is Mount Cody, unless they trade down. Although I'm not wild about a two down DT, he might represent the best value at the pick.

01-08-2010, 04:48 AM	#19
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,315	The injury likely isn't anything severe, the biggest loss due to it was not getting to showcase himself in the national championship game. A few years back Matt Lienart was the hands down #1 QB in his class but after Vince Young torched USC in the national championship game Young went 3rd overall and Lienart slid down to 9th. Colt McCoy had a fight on his hands to catch up to Clausen and Bradford as it was. Going into last night's game he was sitting in the same tier as Tebow and Mallett (if he comes out) and Tony Pike. He had a chance to make a strong case for him as at worst the #3 QB. Now he's got to prove it in a four way scrum against some very talented competition. At current there is possibly an all time low for QB needs in the NFL as well. Here are the NFL teams by draft order, and my opinion on their need for QB: St. Louis (1-15) - Need a QB, likely going to take Clausen or Bradford here. Detroit (2-14) - Drafted Stafford last year. Set at QB. Tampa Bay (3-13)- Drafted Freeman last year, will not take another QB in the first three rounds. Washington (4-12)- Campbell is a free agent, likely need a QB. Very possible they'll draft one here. Kansas City (4-12)- Have Cassell on a massive deal. Doubt they'll draft a replacement high only one season after giving him that deal. Seattle (5-11)- Probably need a QB. But need a lot in general and Hasselback is still good when healthy. Cleveland (5-11)- Still have Anderson and Quinn. Might draft a QB, which will lead to the jettisoning of those two QBs for other teams to scoop up as backups. Oakland (5-11)- Need a QB once again assuming they cut Russell. Can't imagine they don't. Buffalo (6-10)- Have a QB. Not much else, but they do have a QB. Jacksonville^ (7-9)- Have a pretty good QB, but might draft Tebow to help sell tickets. Denver - from Chicago^ (7-9)- We got KO, not likely to take a QB in the first round at least. Miami (7-9)- set at QB. San Francisco (8-8)- look pretty good at QB with Alex Smith's resurgence. Seattle - from Denver (8-8)- see pick #6. New York Giants (8-8)- set at QB. Tennessee^ (8-8)- Vince Young and Kerry Collins both under contract still. San Francisco - from Carolina^ (8-8) - see 13. Pittsburgh (9-7) - set at QB. Atlanta^ (9-7) - set at QB. Houston^ (9-7) - set at QB (or so it seems a least). New York Jets* (9-7)- set at QB. Baltimore* (9-7)- set at QB. Arizona* (10-6)- set at QB. Green Bay* (11-5) - set at QB. Cincinnati* (10-6) - set at QB. New England* (10-6) - set at QB. Philadelphia* (11-5)- set at QB. Dallas* (11-5)- set at QB. Minnesota* (12-4) - set at QB. San Diego* (13-3)- set at QB. New Orleans* (13-3) - set at QB. Indianapolis* (14-2) - set at QB. The Bears and Panthers don't have firsts. The former is locked into a QB already, the later is paying one like they are, but started a youngster over him down the stretch. They might stick with Moore or they might go looking for some competition. So there are probably somewhere between six to eight teams who would even possibly consider QB a need in the first two or three rounds. Of that list one of them is rumored to be locked into an overpick of the home town hero (J-Ville with Tebow). Another five are picking in the top 10 (six if we beat J-Ville in the coin toss and you think we're looking to get a QB). Carolina is the one left with no 1st, and therefore probably need to make a bigger impact with their 2nd rounder. Its entirely possible I think that we see Clausen and Bradford go in the top 10, Tebow to Jacksonville, and another QB doesn't get drafted until the early second round. The big RFA crop could really shuffle things around though. Might be a lot more pick movement than in recent years.

01-08-2010, 05:53 AM	#24
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01-07-2010, 09:16 PM	#1
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,298 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Colt McCoy Injury (affect on Draft?) I'm not sure where he was slated to go, but if it drops him down to a 3rd or 4th round I'd be all for him. I didn't hear exactly what happened to him. I assume a separated shoulder? I know late season injuries usually drop peoples value. Anyone more drafty and know how this could affect his value?

01-07-2010, 09:27 PM	#2
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	I want McClain..the dude is going to be a beast Inside MLB in our 3-4

01-07-2010, 09:30 PM	#3
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Looked like a jammed shoulder. Considering this is his last game and he is going to be drafted, why make it worse?

01-07-2010, 09:34 PM	#4
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	i felt terrible for McCoy...Then I remembered I bet Alabama so I felt happy...But sad at the same time...then happy.

01-07-2010, 09:41 PM	#5
OCBronco Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Not sure. He said afterward that he couldn't even feel his right arm. I hope for his sake that he's okay.

01-07-2010, 09:49 PM	#6
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	I doubt it hurts his draft value.

01-07-2010, 09:58 PM	#7
hookemhess Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Blake Gideon	Nah, he is fine. His insurance policy is only like $3-4m, I think. It was a business decision to not go back in. Can't blame him. Shredded shoulders destroy QB careers. Point in case, Griese.

01-07-2010, 10:03 PM	#9
Pontius Pirate Tampons are for pussies Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 'Nam Posts: 1,796	Colt who?

01-07-2010, 10:15 PM	#13
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	I've felt he was 2nd-3rd round material before tonight and this doesn't change my opinion except to have my doctors check him out thoroughly if I'm serious about drafting him. 95% likely he'll be fine by draft day. I think he said he could feel his shoulder because they tried to deaden the pain so they could put him back in but I guess they decided against it. I'm mostly sad that the injury robbed us of what might have been a classic. Certainly, it's a whole different game if he doesn't get hurt and we'll never really know who was better.

01-07-2010, 10:36 PM	#15
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	He is still a 1st-2nd round pick.... 4th is dreaming

01-07-2010, 10:38 PM	#16
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	There are a number of QBs better than Colt. No way he's 1st or 2nd round.

01-08-2010, 12:37 AM	#18
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	ESPN reporting it was a pinched nerve. Unlikely McCoy's draft status will be impacted although interested teams may give him a more thorough exam than they had originally planned.

01-08-2010, 05:16 AM	#20
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Last night I focused on Rolando McClain, very impressed. That guy has incredible instincts. Not sure an Inside LB is our greatest need, but that dude is the real deal. He already has the size to play effectively in a 3-4 defense. He is a film junky and the unquestioned leader of the Tide's top ranked defense. He has incredible instincts. All that being said, I think there is more than a small chance that Brandon Spikes is available in the 2nd round. He too would be a great option and it would allow us to draft BPA (Berry/Bradford/McCoy) in the first. Man, this draft is so incredibly deep. We could see players such as Taylor Mays fall into the late first round. When we're talking Brandon Spikes as a middle 2nd rounder, you kind of get an idea of just how deep this draft is. Also, don't be surprised to see Joe Haden as our first round pick. Don't be surprised to see Jordan Shipley as our 3rd round pick. He is drawing comparisons to Wes Welker already. Kind of easy to see why the way he runs double and triple/combo routes. Very instinctive. Also a very good return man. It will be interesting to see how he runs. I'm guessing in the 4.50 range.

01-08-2010, 05:29 AM	#21
cousinal11 East Coast Bronco Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dresseen	Buffalo (6-10)- Have a QB. Not much else, but they do have a QB. Who?

01-08-2010, 05:38 AM	#22
Baba Booey twitter.com/ds_perry HURRY HURRY! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,039 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	McClain is an absolute stud. Fast, good size, and instincts. If Bradford doesn't fall to us he's on the top of my list.

01-08-2010, 05:54 AM	#25
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,787	As far as the QB question goes, I wouldn't be at all surprised if none of these QBs goes in the first round. None of them are worth the price of a top ten pick. Suh, I've etched in stone as the Rams pick. If they take anybody else, they are morons. I really like McClain, but I'm also just as afraid the Broncos will be looking at him twice a year in mustard and red. I doubt he slips past five, especially after the combine. IMO, the pick for the Broncos is Mount Cody, unless they trade down. Although I'm not wild about a two down DT, he might represent the best value at the pick.