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Old 01-03-2010, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default The Charlie Weis for OC thread.

This should be discussed, and I firmly believe the Broncos make a run at Weiss to be the Offensive Coordinator or Assistant Head Coach of the offense. McDaniels loves the guy. I don't need to rattle off this guys credentials, he installed the current Broncos offense for the Patriots and won 3 SB's with them.

It would be a great hire, since I think McDaniels could use someone like Weiss who can help coach and be another set of eyes to bring in players that fit our scheme.

I am not saying McCoy should get canned, more like given another position on the offense. Just that Weiss would be an upgrade.
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I don't think McDaniels is going to hire anybody who would steal any of his lime light. I could be wrong. Maybe I'm being unfair. But I don't think the guy wants to be over shadowed by anyone.
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I'd rather have Mike Leach. Weis doesn't change anything. It's the same offense. Leach's passing game is alot simpler, more successful, easier to teach and easier to execute.
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Hands off. We're doubling up on morbidly obese coaches from the Belichick tree this offseason. Weis and Crennel will be Chiefs. The deal is done.
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I'd rather have Mike Leach. Weis doesn't change anything. It's the same offense. Leach's passing game is alot simpler, more successful, easier to teach and easier to execute.
On the college level.

I'm not saying the transition couldn't be made. But Weis has proven success at the NFL level.
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I'd rather have Mike Leach. Weis doesn't change anything. It's the same offense. Leach's passing game is alot simpler, more successful, easier to teach and easier to execute.
I second that.
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I'd rather have Mike Leach. Weis doesn't change anything. It's the same offense. Leach's passing game is alot simpler, more successful, easier to teach and easier to execute.
Plus Mike Leach would've "Handled" BMarsh's hammy in closet...err house.
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The deal is done.
Bob isn't that what you said when you were claiming 14 different times that you were going to get laid that one night and then you came back in a few hours with blue balls?

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Hands off. We're doubling up on morbidly obese coaches from the Belichick tree this offseason. Weis and Crennel will be Chiefs. The deal is done.
Nice, we can count on that not happening.
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Bob isn't that what you said when you were claiming 14 different times that you were going to get laid that one night and then you came back in a few hours with blue balls?
I'm pretty sure you're wrong on this one bro, BOB HAS NO BALLS
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Not sure if your joking or serious....but what experience does Leach have in the Erdhart-Perkins system?
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I don't think McDaniels is going to hire anybody who would steal any of his lime light. I could be wrong. Maybe I'm being unfair. But I don't think the guy wants to be over shadowed by anyone.
That would be a shame if that's how McDaniels feels.

However, when Weis got canned...McDaniels spoke very highly of Weiss. I could be wrong, but I recall that McDaniels dodged a question (wouldn't confirm nor deny) of whether he had called Weiss after he was canned by ND. That was odd.
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Not sure if your joking or serious....but what experience does Leach have in the Erdhart-Perkins system?
That's the point, 24. He runs a BETTER passing game. I'd rather run his passing game, instead. It is easier to learn, easier to teach and more difficult to defend. If McD wants his own run game with maulers and stuff and his playaction stuff, that's fine. But if we're going to have a successful dropback passing game, without as much talent (i.e. minus Marshall, Scheff etc), then Leach is absolutely the one to consult on that. Whether that means he's the OC or the staff simply goes to consult with him for a week in the offseason, either way is fine. I've studied the Mumme/Leach/Franklin offense for a few years now in terms of clinic lectures and cut-ups and playbooks and stuff. He has a nice passing game that is built upon simple yet versatile concepts and produces every year. He also has very efficient practices that emphasize endless repetitions. I mentioned this before yesterday about the way he does things in practice that are advanced. There is alot that this staff can learn from him to spruce up our offense.
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That's the point, 24. He runs a BETTER passing game. I'd rather run his passing game, instead. It is easier to learn, easier to teach and more difficult to defend. If McD wants his own run game with maulers and stuff and his playaction stuff, that's fine. But if we're going to have a successful dropback passing game, without as much talent (i.e. minus Marshall, Scheff etc), then Leach is absolutely the one to consult on that. Whether that means he's the OC or the staff simply goes to consult with him for a week in the offseason, either way is fine. I've studied the Mumme/Leach/Franklin offense for a few years now in terms of clinic lectures and cut-ups and playbooks and stuff. He has a nice passing game that is built upon simple yet versatile concepts and produces every year. He also has very efficient practices that emphasize endless repetitions. I mentioned this before yesterday about the way he does things in practice that are advanced. There is alot that this staff can learn from him to spruce up our offense.
It has to be easier the way they plugged kids in at TT. It seemed like they ran 5 or 6 plays.
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That's the point, 24. He runs a BETTER passing game. I'd rather run his passing game, instead. It is easier to learn, easier to teach and more difficult to defend. If McD wants his own run game with maulers and stuff and his playaction stuff, that's fine. But if we're going to have a successful dropback passing game, without as much talent (i.e. minus Marshall, Scheff etc), then Leach is absolutely the one to consult on that. Whether that means he's the OC or the staff simply goes to consult with him for a week in the offseason, either way is fine. I've studied the Mumme/Leach/Franklin offense for a few years now in terms of clinic lectures and cut-ups and playbooks and stuff. He has a nice passing game that is built upon simple yet versatile concepts and produces every year. He also has very efficient practices that emphasize endless repetitions. I mentioned this before yesterday about the way he does things in practice that are advanced. There is alot that this staff can learn from him to spruce up our offense.
He's a modern day Coryell. For all the complaints about the dink and dunking with McDaniels, Leach loves to stretch the field and he forces the defense to account for all sectors of the gridiron. As simple as Leach's offense is, it's very confusing for a defense to defend.
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I'd rather have Mike Leach. Weis doesn't change anything. It's the same offense. Leach's passing game is alot simpler, more successful, easier to teach and easier to execute.
I think Weis is better suited to coach in the NFL. I don't care what people think about Callahan but I think he is a good NFL OC that tried to put a complicated NFL system in college football kind of like Weis was doing at ND. I couldn't see them getting enough time with players to get the system to ever work out. In the NFL you get to work with players that are in pro systems for longer then three to four years. I think Weis would help on the little details to improve the team kind of like what Callahan is helping with the Jets. In two seasons as the Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line, BC has taken the Jets from 19th in rushing, to 9th then to 1st. I think we could get that kind of boost with Wies.
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I think Weis would want to run an offence if he were to take an OC position in the NFL. STAY THE COURSE.
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It has to be easier the way they plugged kids in at TT. It seemed like they ran 5 or 6 plays.
They run a small number of base pass plays, but make it multiple with "tags" for most of the plays. To the opponent, it looks like 50 different things, when in reality, it is 17 different things with tags. They also rep the hell out of what they run. The drills they use ensure they can get EVERYONE a bunch of reps in just a short period of time.
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