Ralph Peters - "Lying to Ourselves"(about Islam)

[barryr]

Dead on article,

Lying to ourselves

By RALPH PETERS

Last Updated: 9:40 AM, December 29, 2009

Posted: 12:45 AM, December 29, 2009

On Christmas Day, an Islamist fanatic tried to blow up an airplane whose passengers were mostly Christians. And we helped.

Our government gets no thanks for preventing a tragedy. Only the bomber's ineptitude preserved the lives of nearly 300 innocents.

How did we help Umar Abdulmutallab, a wealthy Muslim university graduate who decided that Allah wanted him to slaughter Christians on their most joyous holiday?

By continuing to lie to ourselves. Although willing -- at last -- to briefly use the word "terror," yesterday President Obama still refused to make a connection between the action, the date and Islam.

Was it just a ticketing accident that led to a bombing attempt on Christmas? Was it all about blackout dates and frequent-flyer miles?

It wasn't. You know it. And I know it. But our government refuses to know it. Despite vast databases crammed with evidence, our leaders -- of both parties -- still refuse to connect Islamist terrorism with Islam.

Our insistence that "Islam's a religion of peace" would have been cold comfort to the family members of those passengers had the bomb detonated as planned.

Abdulmutallab's own father warned our diplomats that his son had been infected by Islamist extremism. Our diplomats did nothing. Why? Because (despite a series of embassy bombings) the State Department dreads linking terrorism to Islam.

Contrast our political correctness with Abdulmutallab's choice of Christmas for his intended massacre. Our troops stand down on Muslim holidays. A captive terrorist merely has to claim that a soldier dog-eared a Koran, and it's courts-martial all around.

We proclaim that the terrorists "don't represent Islam." OK, whom do they represent? The Franciscans? We don't get to decide what's Islam and what isn't. Muslims do. And far too many of them approve of violent jihad.

It gets worse. Instead of focusing on the religious zeal and inspiration of our enemies and how such motivations change the game, our "terrorism experts" agonize over whether such beasts as Abdulmutallab or Maj. Hasan, the Fort Hood assassin for Allah, are really members of al Qaeda or not.

As a Sunday Post editorial pointed out, al Qaeda's far more than a formal organization; it's an idea, a cause. If a terrorist says he's al Qaeda, he is, even if he doesn't have a union card from Jihadi Local 632.

We're dealing with a global Muslim movement, not a Masons' lodge.

And that "global" aspect is especially worrying. Despite limited Special Operations strikes beyond our recognized combat zones, we still don't accept the nature of the threat from jet-set jihadis. Our leaders and our military are obsessed with holding ground in Afghanistan -- even though al Qaeda's growth areas are in Yemen and Africa.

We voluntarily tie ourselves down, while our enemies focus on mobility. Worse, we've convinced ourselves that development aid (the left's all-purpose medicine) is the key to defeating al Qaeda.

That's utter nonsense. Abdulmutallab's a rich kid. He didn't come from a deprived background, bearing the grievances of the slum. He's a graduate of a top English university. And Osama bin Laden's from a super-rich family. How does building a footbridge in Afghanistan deter them?

Most of our home-grown Islamist terrorists hail from middle-class families -- such monsters as Maj. Hasan or the Virginia virgin-chasers under arrest in Pakistan (where jail conditions are a lot worse than at Guantanamo -- can't we just leave 'em there?).

This isn't a revolt of the wretched of the earth. These terrorists are the Muslim-fanatic versions of Bill Ayers and the Weathermen, pampered kids unhappy with the world. Al Qaeda's big guns are re- belling against privilege. There's a lot of Freud in this fundamentalism.

Spoiled brats remade their god in their own vengeful image. And we have to kill them. This one really is a zero-sum game.

We're not just fighting men but a plague of faith. Until Washington accepts that, we'll continue to reap a low return on our investments of blood and treasure.

On Christmas Day, a Muslim fanatic attempted to butcher hundreds of Christians (dead Jews would've been a bonus). Our response? Have airport security analyze the contents of grandma's mini-bottle of shampoo -- we don't want to "discriminate."

With our lies, self-deception and self-flagellation, we're terror's little helpers.

Ralph Peters' latest book is "The War After Armageddon."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...IQIrjE0oaYch2K

[orinjkrush]

Islam is not a religion. Muhammed was a pedophile.

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by orinjkrush

Islam is not a religion. Muhammed was a pedophile.

[orinjkrush]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

fatwah?

jihad??

[mhgaffney]

You are waging a crusade against a billion Muslims.

No wonder they fight back. That makes them human.

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

You are waging a crusade against a billion Muslims.

No wonder they fight back. That makes them human.

There are a billion radical muslims?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

You are waging a crusade against a billion Muslims.

No wonder they fight back. That makes them human.

Didn't the radical islamics wage war first? Are we not supposed to defend ourselves? The only crusade I see is yours, and its a crusade against common sense.

[watermock]

Mohammed was a POS.

Read this.


http://www.historyofjihad.org/mohammed.html

[Rigs11]

The 'terrorists' use Islam to wage war against us. We use 'democracy' and 'freedom' to wage war. What is the end result in both cases? Death. Selective history is a terrible thing.

[ant1999e]

You guys better watch out.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...rd.html?cat=62
Attempted Murder of Kurt Westergaard, Mohammed Cartoonist with Terrorist Ties Wounded, in Custody

Kurt Westergaard, a Danish cartoonist, has published a series of unflattering cartoons depicting the Muslim Prophet Mohammed, one famous one with a bomb with a lit fuse for a turban. Kurt Westergaard almost paid for his Mohammed cartoons with his life.

A twenty eight year old Somali national, with ties to a Somali terrorist group al-Shabaab and Al Qaeda, attempted to enter Kurt Westergaard's home in Viby near the western city of Aarhus with an ax and a knife, howling for revenge.

[Gort]

the average american, especially democrats/liberals/progressives, have no clue how dangerous islam really is. every muslim by definition (it's a tenet of their religion) wants the rest of us to be converted to islam, willing to accept a role in society as an untermensch/dhimmi, or killed. they may not all be willing to strap on 20lbs of dynamite to die for their 72 raisins, but they all believe in the validity of jihad. it's that simple really.

since 9/11, how many worldwide acts of terror have been committed in the name of islam (by their perpetrators)? anyone care to guess?

100? 500? 1000?

the answer is 14,600+ just since 9/11/2001!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.jihadwatch.org

PS - muslims who believe in 72 virgins awaiting them in the afterlife will surely be disappointed when they get handed their box of sun-maid raisins and discover that the Koran has been mistranslated to them.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...eat-koran.html

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

the average american, especially democrats/liberals/progressives, have no clue how dangerous islam really is. every muslim by definition (it's a tenet of their religion) wants the rest of us to be converted to islam, willing to accept a role in society as an untermensch/dhimmi, or killed. they may not all be willing to strap on 20lbs of dynamite to die for their 72 raisins, but they all believe in the validity of jihad. it's that simple really.

since 9/11, how many worldwide acts of terror have been committed in the name of islam (by their perpetrators)? anyone care to guess?

100? 500? 1000?

the answer is 14,600+ just since 9/11/2001!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.jihadwatch.org

PS - muslims who believe in 72 virgins awaiting them in the afterlife will surely be disappointed when they get handed their box of sun-maid raisins and discover that the Koran has been mistranslated to them.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...eat-koran.html

You really never see just an average muslim person speaking out against these terrorist attacks or terrorist killing innocent muslims in bombings ect which is against the koran.

The Qur'an clearly declares that killing an innocent person was tantamount to killing all mankind and likewise saving a single life was as if one had saved the life of all mankind. (The Qur'an, Al-Maidah 5:32) This is both a principle and a command.

You don't see any muslims speaking out against this and the reason is fear of being killed fact is radical muslims have hijacked the faith of islam.

[barryr]

And how many killings have been done in the name of Jesus or because the Bible said to during that time? Yet the liberals will put Islam and Christianity on the same playing field and only criticize Islam when doing the same with Christianity. They have no clue.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by barryr

And how many killings have been done in the name of Jesus or because the Bible said to during that time? Yet the liberals will put Islam and Christianity on the same playing field and only criticize Islam when doing the same with Christianity. They have no clue.

All religions are interpreted differently. Yes even the bible.when the us keeps meddling in others affairs it just feeds these radicals and they gain strength.to blame a religion for the act of a small percentage of radicals who choose to wage war based on it is silly. To excuse our meddling because it's waged in the name of democracy is sillier.

[gyldenlove]

Originally Posted by barryr

And how many killings have been done in the name of Jesus or because the Bible said to during that time? Yet the liberals will put Islam and Christianity on the same playing field and only criticize Islam when doing the same with Christianity. They have no clue.

How many people did die in Iraq as the direct result of Bush's invasion? 100.000? What was the reasoning again for going there? Oh yes, God told George Bush to do it. Do you want to tell me how many lives have lost in the name of Jesus? because that number is a lot bigger than you want to know.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

How many people did die in Iraq as the direct result of Bush's invasion? 100.000? What was the reasoning again for going there? Oh yes, God told George Bush to do it. Do you want to tell me how many lives have lost in the name of Jesus? because that number is a lot bigger than you want to know.

Ah yes, the don't meddle and let their leaders kill their own people, so we don't have to know about it and pretend it isn't happening argument. Yes, what a great strategy. I'm sure the Jews loved how so many millions of them died as a result of so many waiting to do anything. But "duh, at least we didn't end up killing anyone trying to help." Yeah, sound reasoning by bozos.

[TheDave]

I don't know... this whole kill all members of a particular relegion just seems so 1940's to me.

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Didn't the radical islamics wage war first? Are we not supposed to defend ourselves? The only crusade I see is yours, and its a crusade against common sense.

No.

Not long ago Zbigniew Brzezinski -- National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter and other presidents (incl Obama) -- bragged that he had brought down the evil Soviet empire by arming and training the Mujahedeen freedom fighters in Afhganistan.

This was BEFORE the Soviet invasion. Brzezinski was ecstatic that the US had actually lured the Soviets into a trap. Thus, the US was the instigator.

The Mujahedeen = radical Sunni Islamic jihad = Al Qaeda

Fact is, the US funded, trained and armed the ORIGINAL Al Qaeda.

Have you forgotten? Ronnie Ray-Gun even compared them to the founding fathers? Of course, he had Alzheimer' s at the time. But that didn't stop all of you clowns from supporting his genocidal military policies to the max.

Sad to say. You are just as stupid today as you were in the 1980s.

Let me rephrase that with a more positive phraseology: You still haven't learned a thing.

MHG

[Gort]

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

How many people did die in Iraq as the direct result of Bush's invasion? 100.000? What was the reasoning again for going there? Oh yes, God told George Bush to do it. Do you want to tell me how many lives have lost in the name of Jesus? because that number is a lot bigger than you want to know.

your first sentence is bull****. your second sentence is bull****. your fourth sentence is bull****. your sixth sentence is bull****. you clearly have alot a bull**** to spread around so carelessly. my conclusion is that you are full of bull****. carry on.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by barryr

Ah yes, the don't meddle and let their leaders kill their own people, so we don't have to know about it and pretend it isn't happening argument. Yes, what a great strategy. I'm sure the Jews loved how so many millions of them died as a result of so many waiting to do anything. But "duh, at least we didn't end up killing anyone trying to help." Yeah, sound reasoning by bozos.

ahh yes the policeman argument.how come I don't see you screaming to help the people in darfur?are you that naive to think that dumbya went into Iraq because he wanted to help people?good god man wake up

[yavoon]

to deal more effectively with islamic extremism we have to deal more effectively with islamic supremacism. if you look at a lot of the mosques these few bombers come out of, they are almost always very popular islamic magnets of "devout" followers. from which only a minority end up being bombers but from which a majority are fed very aggressive islamic supremacism.

we have to come to grips with a world where malaysia, a democracy with a fairly slight muslim majority(about 60-40) can completely deny individual religious freedom in the name of islam.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

ahh yes the policeman argument.how come I don't see you screaming to help the people in darfur?are you that naive to think that dumbya went into Iraq because he wanted to help people?good god man wake up

Oh yeah, it's because he wanted that oil, which is surely personally helping him today isn't it. The bozos on the left arguments such as those would mean more when a president doesn't have term limits. As for our members of Congress, that's another story and why I want term limits and no career politicians, at least the ones we have. But I know that flies over your head, continue on saying nothing.

[Dukes]

I advise all of you to check out Wahled Shoebat if you haven't heard of him already. A former PLO terrorist who converted to Christianity

http://www.shoebat.com/

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by WhoIsJohnGalt

the average american, especially democrats/liberals/progressives, have no clue how dangerous islam really is. every muslim by definition (it's a tenet of their religion) wants the rest of us to be converted to islam, willing to accept a role in society as an untermensch/dhimmi, or killed. they may not all be willing to strap on 20lbs of dynamite to die for their 72 raisins, but they all believe in the validity of jihad. it's that simple really.

since 9/11, how many worldwide acts of terror have been committed in the name of islam (by their perpetrators)? anyone care to guess?

100? 500? 1000?

the answer is 14,600+ just since 9/11/2001!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.jihadwatch.org

PS - muslims who believe in 72 virgins awaiting them in the afterlife will surely be disappointed when they get handed their box of sun-maid raisins and discover that the Koran has been mistranslated to them.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...eat-koran.html

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by TheDave

I don't know... this whole kill all members of a particular relegion just seems so 1940's to me.

It's a "religious/fanatic" thing. They just can't get over the fact that some people don't believe in the same fairy tales as they do.