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Old 12-27-2009, 05:30 PM   #1
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It is what is is, but for curiosity's sake... has anyone watched it a few times?

He was touching the ball with both hands and both feet down, but the ball flipped over into his chest as he brought it in. He absolutely did not have the ball settled until only one foot remained on the ground.

Unless I just don't understand the rule... this one is baffling, particularly because they overturned the call.

Can the ball be flipping over in your hands and still be deemed possession?

Maybe it can, and I'm just not familiar with the rule... but I was surprised they never really mentioned that it totally flipped over in his hands.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:34 PM   #2
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It was bobbled ( end of story)
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:34 PM   #3
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I dunno, he moved it, but he def had possession.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:34 PM   #4
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I mean, it wasn't even close... unless bobbling is part of "gaining possession" or some stupid bull**** like that.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:36 PM   #6
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I thought his left foot came up before he controlled it, but the referees thought differently. It's unusual to see them overturn that close a call, but that was the trend of the day. Mike whatsis name was the leagues' man on the spot.
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I felt it could have gone either way.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:40 PM   #8
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He bobbled it the whole way down. Just like the previous catch AND THE ORIGINAL CALL ON THE FREAKING FIELD.

This game needs to be investigated. Seriously. I think something fishy went down. Especially with all the "flag... no wait, were sorry no flag" on the Eagles and all the bullshizzle called on the Broncos.

Ive never been so pissed over a game in my life. We won this. The refs took it.
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I didn't see conclusive evidence that his feet were actually **TOUCHING** the ground after he secured the football. Sure, it looked like they might be touching the ground, but the way 3D works on a 2D (tv screen), you can't tell for sure unless you see the same view from different perspectives, concurrently.

The call on the field was incomplete. I just don't see the the visual evidence that the feet actually touched the ground. They could have very easily been just inches away from the ground, but never touching it.

I want to see the fking blades of grass moving before they overturn that b!tch !!!
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I honestly dont know what play you guys were watching. he dragged both feet, and though he may have moved the ball, he was hardly bobbling it.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:43 PM   #11
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I didn't see conclusive evidence
That right there is the key. No matter what the right call was there certainly wasn't conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.
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That right there is the key. No matter what the right call was there certainly wasn't conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.
Exactly. The play on the field stands (or should have...)
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:52 PM   #13
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This should merge with the bad officiating thread. Horrible call.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:55 PM   #14
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I felt it could have gone either way.
That right there means it should not be overturned. In the intrest of fairness I didn't think the call on our first possesion should of been overturned either. I don't know how anyone could tell if the ball went forward or not.

Replay should only overturn the call when it is conclusive
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:57 PM   #15
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ball moved in his arms for sure after initially getting it in his hands, but maybe the refs still view this as maintaining control?
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:59 PM   #16
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Couldn't believe it was overturned, especially so qickly and so forcefully. I'm still not even convinced his right foot touched the ground at all.

But I guess it was conclusive evidence. Pish.

Sour grapes, I suppose, but it was still bull****.
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Where is that ****ing queer frerottenextelway? In the game thread, he liked the catch and praised Maclin for making it.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:12 PM   #18
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I didn't see conclusive evidence that his feet were actually **TOUCHING** the ground after he secured the football.

The call on the field was incomplete. I just don't see the the visual evidence that the feet actually touched the ground. They could have very easily been just inches away from the ground, but never touching it.
That's where they eff'd up IMO. When they first put replay in, they were HUGE on making sure things were conclusive. I cannot even remember the last time I heard and official declare a call "inconclusive". It sure seems the emphasis has changed from being conclusive, to make a complete and definite ruling on every play.

I can say for sure he moved that ball. And IMO (and I think its opinion only), he wasn't moving it just to bring it in, but in fact moved it because his initial attempt at catching it was not firm. After that, his elbow hit down before he got his feed or knee down.

All in all, I am baffled at how close it was, that they called it in our favor to begin with, and could still change it. But then again, I was baffled they changed the Orton play early in the game.
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He was bobbling it with one foot in
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It is what is is, but for curiosity's sake... has anyone watched it a few times?

He was touching the ball with both hands and both feet down, but the ball flipped over into his chest as he brought it in. He absolutely did not have the ball settled until only one foot remained on the ground.

Unless I just don't understand the rule... this one is baffling, particularly because they overturned the call.

Can the ball be flipping over in your hands and still be deemed possession?

Maybe it can, and I'm just not familiar with the rule... but I was surprised they never really mentioned that it totally flipped over in his hands.
I thought the same thing...but Phil Simms said OF course the ball is going to move around...I guess the ref deferred to Simms sucking up on the Eagles.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:16 PM   #21
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basically the refs didn't wanna die from a battery shower so they called it a catch so they could leave that scum bag stadium in one piece.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:18 PM   #22
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It was a catch, and a good one. Get over it.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:19 PM   #23
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I was surprised the call was overturned but then again I was surprised they overturned the 1st Orton lateral pass that would have given the Eagles a td.
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That right there means it should not be overturned. In the intrest of fairness I didn't think the call on our first possesion should of been overturned either. I don't know how anyone could tell if the ball went forward or not.

Replay should only overturn the call when it is conclusive
Orton let the ball go from the 22-2/3 yard line and it landed almost on the 23.

It was obviously a forward pass. The ball isn't placed where the QBs feet were but where the BALL was when released. What sucked is that the official
originally made the wrong call to start and tried to GIVE a TD to Philly. Thank god we didn't need more challenges to keep them honest. they still made several horrible calls, and as usual the holding on dumerville (and the rest of the Defense) was never called.
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It was a catch, and a good one. Get over it.
Go **** yourself!

I will buy you a green and black Maclin jersey if you ****ing like it so much.
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