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Old 12-27-2009, 06:17 PM   #1
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Default We cannot resign Orton (can we?)

Great QB's win these types of games. McNabb had a mediocre 2nd half and still pulled it out. The 27 yard run and big pass was the difference. Orton ran for 5 yards (and failed to get the 1st down) and cannot throw with confidence more than 15-20 yards. We will never go to the next level with him so we may as well let him walk now. I just have a bad feeling that McD will resign just because he is hard headed.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:22 PM   #2
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Great QB's win these types of games. McNabb had a mediocre 2nd half and still pulled it out. The 27 yard run and big pass was the difference. Orton ran for 5 yards (and failed to get the 1st down) and cannot throw with confidence more than 15-20 yards. We will never go to the next level with him so we may as well let him walk now. I just have a bad feeling that McD will resign just because he is hard headed.
I know it's his first year in McD's system but Orton has showed he's not going to be anything close to one of the better QB's in the league. I guess if you are fine with a middle of the road QB then you might sign. When I watch Big Ben moving around in that pocket today, with guys hanging on him and he completes a pass for a 1st down, I get jealous. Especially when I see Orton get slightly bumped and he curls up like a wuss and falls to the ground. I am really hoping Brandstater improves big time this offseason and comes back next year and takes the starting QB spot. We really need to use our high picks on both lines. The only way I spend a top pick on QB is if Bradford falls to us in the first.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:23 PM   #3
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He'd make a good backup!
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We have to re-sign him, what the hell would the alternative be? But i wouldnt be upset if we drafted a QB high
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #5
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Too many fans making excuses for Orton.

Can't get it done. Limited ability.

Denver should have signed M Vick. Now we will have to use a high draft pick on a QB.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:26 PM   #6
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I know it's his first year in McD's system but Orton has showed he's not going to be anything close to one of the better QB's in the league. I guess if you are fine with a middle of the road QB then you might sign. When I watch Big Ben moving around in that pocket today, with guys hanging on him and he completes a pass for a 1st down, I get jealous. Especially when I see Orton get slightly bumped and he curls up like a wuss and falls to the ground.
Exacty! We need a QB who can make that critical 1st down or Touchdown. Orton can get you to the mountain, he just can't get you over the top!
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:29 PM   #7
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Great observation. If we want to build a dynasty than we need a great signal caller who can make all the throws, move in the pocket and make big plays. Orton can do none of that. I just hope that we don't resign his sorry ass.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:30 PM   #8
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Great QB's win these types of games. McNabb had a mediocre 2nd half and still pulled it out. The 27 yard run and big pass was the difference. Orton ran for 5 yards (and failed to get the 1st down) and cannot throw with confidence more than 15-20 yards. We will never go to the next level with him so we may as well let him walk now. I just have a bad feeling that McD will resign just because he is hard headed.
How easy is to find a "great" QB? I agree we could have used one today, but there just aren't a whole lot of Mannings, Brees, Rivers, McNabbs out there. I'd be fine with drafting another QB in the draft, but lets not kid ourselves that a clearly better option than Orton will be sitting out there in free agency.
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We have to re-sign him, what the hell would the alternative be? But i wouldnt be upset if we drafted a QB high
No way. Start over with a rookie or Brandstater. Keeping Orton one more year is one year longer before we can develop a real QB. It would be like spinning our wheels.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:31 PM   #10
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I hope we get a good rookie with our chicago pick...heres to two more losses and 10 ints for the bears and our boy cutler
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:32 PM   #11
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How easy is to find a "great" QB? I agree we could have used one today, but there just aren't a whole lot of Mannings, Brees, Rivers, McNabbs out there. I'd be fine with drafting another QB in the draft, but lets not kid ourselves that a clearly better option than Orton will be sitting out there in free agency.
Time to find one a develop him. Starting Orton one more season would just delay their development (better veteran or rookie).
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:32 PM   #12
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Too many fans making excuses for Orton.

Can't get it done. Limited ability.

Denver should have signed M Vick. Now we will have to use a high draft pick on a QB.
LulZ SOLID POINT BRO

Vick...that is HI-larious.

The only way we don't consider bringing Orton back is if Brandstater is deemed ready. Highly, highly doubtful.

Continue being retarded.
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LulZ SOLID POINT BRO

Vick...that is HI-larious.

The only way we don't consider bringing Orton back is if Brandstater is deemed ready. Highly, highly doubtful.

Continue being retarded.
Supporting an Orton return is supporting another season of not making the post season. Do you really think we can win with Orton? Really?
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Too much logic for me!
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:36 PM   #15
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There was never anything wrong with Vick (the QB) that a good coach couldn't fix.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:50 PM   #16
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Too many fans making excuses for Orton.

Can't get it done. Limited ability.

Denver should have signed M Vick. Now we will have to use a high draft pick on a QB.
That invalidates your opinion.

Vick? Really? The guy never proved anything (other than he's one of the most over rated QB's ever) and he's a piece of trash.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:51 PM   #17
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Supporting an Orton return is supporting another season of not making the post season. Do you really think we can win with Orton? Really?
Who you gonna put in for him genius?

If McDaniels thinks there's a rookie QB worth it we'll take him I'm sure.

I seriously doubt there is a QB like that in the draft. None of them are very exciting prospects.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:54 PM   #18
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Supporting an Orton return is supporting another season of not making the post season. Do you really think we can win with Orton? Really?
Yes, I do. We need an offensive line. Orton is not the reason we will not make the post-season.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:57 PM   #19
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Have to draft a QB. No doubt about it.

Orton has to be signed though, there is nothing else on the roster that is ready to start next year, and with Orton the team will be at least competitive.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:57 PM   #20
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Too many fans making excuses for Orton.

Can't get it done. Limited ability.

Denver should have signed M Vick. Now we will have to use a high draft pick on a QB.
god, sometimes it is better for you to stay in the War forum. People, it is re-sign not resign. Big difference.
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What we really need is a gunslinger. Maybe one from the sec. Maybe one who has been a perennial loser at each stage of his football career
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Why the **** is everybody going "anybody but Orton"?

Seriously. We could do a lot ****ing worse and if McDaniels doesn't think there's somebody better out there do you honestly want to say **** it and ditch Orton anyway?

If McDaniels pulls the trigger on a QB in the draft fine, so be it. But for Christ sake can we stop all this "we need a new QB" bull**** when nobody is offering up any possible alternatives? Last I checked Manning and Brady type QB's don't come along in FA.
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If McDaniels pulls the trigger on a QB in the draft fine, so be it. But for Christ sake can we stop all this "we need a new QB" bull**** when nobody is offering up any possible alternatives? Last I checked Manning and Brady type QB's don't come along in FA.
Could not agree more. If they like a guy in the draft, by all means pull the trigger (hell, maybe they think Brandstater is the real deal), but I'm not sure we'll find a better option for our week 1 starter right now than Orton.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:09 PM   #24
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lol lets get Vick
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:15 PM   #25
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I like Orton, but he really reminds me of Steve DeBerg. "Just good enough to get you beat" was Bill Walsh's line about DeBerg, and I think that applies to Orton, too. Orton, like DeBerg, is a serviceable nfl qb but not the long term answer.
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