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Old 12-22-2009, 12:04 PM   #1
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:08 PM   #2
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I still think the OT screen is worse based on sheer stupidity. I've seen fake field goals work... i've never seen a OT screen DO ANYTHING.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:51 PM   #6
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Does anyone think Zorn did it to get back or embarass the team?
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I still think the OT screen is worse based on sheer stupidity. I've seen fake field goals work... i've never seen a OT screen DO ANYTHING.
The OT screen is not worse, come the **** on. It was a gimmick play that didn't work, but the idea behind it (the last person you'd expect to get the ball is your left tackle) lends it some credibility. Now, not lining up properly is inexcusable, but the fake field goal was much dumber.

You've become such a miserable a-hole. Go get a drink or something.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:19 PM   #10
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I still think the OT screen is worse based on sheer stupidity. I've seen fake field goals work... i've never seen a OT screen DO ANYTHING.
It seems like Shanahan ran something like that once - but it worked. Ah yes, he did, I remember now... But it was to House.
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The OT screen is not worse, come the **** on. It was a gimmick play that didn't work, but the idea behind it (the last person you'd expect to get the ball is your left tackle) lends it some credibility. Now, not lining up properly is inexcusable, but the fake field goal was much dumber.

You've become such a miserable a-hole. Go get a drink or something.

Yeah, how dare anybody criticize a left tackle screen that contributed to a Raiders loss at home. Where do people get off anyway!
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It seems like Shanahan ran something like that once - but it worked. Ah yes, he did, I remember now... But it was to House.
Ummmm we don't say the S word around here anymore Mmmmmmmmmmmkay.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:22 PM   #13
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I am pretty sure if it is our team, they would have scored TD.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:29 PM   #14
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It seems like Shanahan ran something like that once - but it worked. Ah yes, he did, I remember now... But it was to House.
We did actually run this same play with success this year against Kansas City:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...n-to-Graham-TD

The difference against the Raiders is that we lined up Clady at the TE position and tossed it to him. I don't think that the issue was that Clady did not report eligible, I think the reason there was a penalty was that Marshall lined up on the line of scrimmage rather than off, that made Clady an inelligible reciever.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:33 PM   #15
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The OT screen is not worse, come the **** on. It was a gimmick play that didn't work, but the idea behind it (the last person you'd expect to get the ball is your left tackle) lends it some credibility. Now, not lining up properly is inexcusable, but the fake field goal was much dumber.

You've become such a miserable a-hole. Go get a drink or something.
The Skins were down 24 points and it was the last play of the half. The Skins also are not in a playoff race.

Inside the 10 yard line isn't the best time to call a trick play up 3 points during a playoff race. Plays like a pass to the LT is fine in preseason but it was called at the worst time for us.

I mean ask yourself of the two plays which one had the worst effect on the team? Do you think that fake field goal had any effect on the outcome of that game at all?
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:41 PM   #16
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The Skins were down 24 points and it was the last play of the half. The Skins also are not in a playoff race.

Inside the 10 yard line isn't the best time to call a trick play up 3 points during a playoff race. Plays like a pass to the LT is fine in preseason but it was called at the worst time for us.

I mean ask yourself of the two plays which one had the worst effect on the team? Do you think that fake field goal had any effect on the outcome of that game at all?
Probably not, but do you think the LT screen was the difference in the broncos game? It wasn't, come on. I'm not suggesting it was a GOOD play, i'm saying its not the worst play ever.

Plus, the design of the fake field goal was doomed from go.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:42 PM   #17
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:43 PM   #18
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I don't know which was dumber.

Last night's play, Clady's play, or the Broncos falling for the fake coming out of a timeout when they already saw the fake being lined up against the Skins!
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:44 PM   #19
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I don't know which was dumber.

Last night's play, Clady's play, or the Broncos falling for the fake coming out of a timeout when they already saw the fake being lined up against the Skins!
The third was definitely the dumbest
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It seems like Shanahan ran something like that once - but it worked. Ah yes, he did, I remember now... But it was to House.
Also, against San Diego in 2003 Plummer threw a TD pass to Cooper Carlisle as a Tackle eligible.
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I love McCoy's excuse for the Clady play.

"It worked in practice."

That's it?

They must not have practiced it too much because they didn't even line up right.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:54 PM   #22
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that didn't have a chance
It didnt have a chance the first it was called. It had even less of a chance after the time out was called. That made throwing it all on 23 at the roulette table look smart.

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Old 12-22-2009, 02:18 PM   #23
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Probably not, but do you think the LT screen was the difference in the broncos game? It wasn't, come on. I'm not suggesting it was a GOOD play, i'm saying its not the worst play ever.

Plus, the design of the fake field goal was doomed from go.
I don't think it helped at all. I would rather have second and five instead of second and ten. It by far and away was the WORST play we ran this year.
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I don't get that play, 4 or 5 of the Redskins in that bunch never run downfield, a few does, I think it was supposed to be a screen but the punter threw the ball downfield instead of behind the blockers.

I remember the Giants did something similar many years ago, the motioned the entire offensive line out to the right, snapped the ball and it was supposed to run like a screen with 5 blockers out front, but it didn't work since the defense was able to run around the blockers.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:14 PM   #25
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They did same thing against us and it went for 7 and turned the game around.
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