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Old 12-20-2009, 04:27 AM   #1
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According to my records from late November, the Broncos have the lowest payroll attributed for 2010.

At present they only have $62m attached to approx 41 players' contracts.

Only Kansas City at $63.5m, Cincinatti at $67m, New England at $63m, Tampa Bay $65.5m, Tennessee $67.5m come close to that figure. The likes of the Dallas Cowboys, Vikings etc have nearly $50m more already assigned.

So by my reckoning if Bowlen wants this team to push once again for a Superbowl he has more than enough wriggle room to keep the players we want to keep and give McDaniels enough ammo to go after those few decent players that will make it through the loophole of a non-CBA free agency period.

To put the above figures into perspective, Denver spent approx $112m on contracts this season. So $50m less right now.
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:07 AM   #2
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You reckon that resigning Orton, Marshall, Doom and Kuper should be quite manageable then?

Very nice, if so.
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:13 AM   #3
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It's early for me. If I'm interpreting this correctly, you're saying that Denver has fifty million dollars available in 2010?
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:00 AM   #4
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It's early for me. If I'm interpreting this correctly, you're saying that Denver has fifty million dollars available in 2010?
He's saying they are committed to $50M less at this point for 2010 than what they'll pay out in total for the 2009 season.

Obviously that $62M number is us without Doom, Marshall, Orton, and anyone else who might be on an expiring contract, which for the back end of the roster would be a pretty big number. We'd probably see somewhere between $5-$10M needed just to fill out the back 15-20 of the roster. We'll also have a fairly high dollar draft pick coming from the Bears, as well as the rest of our draft picks, but they'll help fill out that back 15-20 as well possibly.

Those are a couple examples of how it could go down. It could go up simply if Bowlen is willing to spend more. It could also increase if Champ gets an extension with a lower '10 payout (at about $15M as of now) in exchange for multiple years.

There is a restriction where a playoff team in an uncapped year can basically only spend dollar for dollar on FA money added for FA money lost. I'm not sure how that deals with cap hits like Henry, Cutler, Bly, Bailey, etc.. If we make the playoffs and that money is viewed as FA money lost then we could easily extend Doom, Marshall, and Orton (probably all in the $9-$10M AAV at the utmost) and still have $20M+ to spend on FAs.

We're in a pretty interesting position. Xanders seems to have the finances sorted well for the first time in at least half a decade. If Bowlen is up for spending it Xanders and McDaniels will likely have a whole lot of ammo, dollars and picks, to make this team better for 2010.
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It's early for me. If I'm interpreting this correctly, you're saying that Denver has fifty million dollars available in 2010?
That what he saying, if there is a cap. If not it up to Bowlen how much he wants to spend.
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Wow, that sounds like a good position, just have to wait to see what we do.

It's been a long time if I remember right since Denver had so much room. Probably since before I can remember.

But "room" prolly isn't the right word since there is no cap. Prolly better to just say since Denver had such a low payroll commitment in relation to what Bowlen is perpared to spend.
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And how much money would Bowlen save in Shanny signs on to coach the Redskins...
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He's saying they are committed to $50M less at this point for 2010 than what they'll pay out in total for the 2009 season.

Obviously that $62M number is us without Doom, Marshall, Orton, and anyone else who might be on an expiring contract, which for the back end of the roster would be a pretty big number. We'd probably see somewhere between $5-$10M needed just to fill out the back 15-20 of the roster. We'll also have a fairly high dollar draft pick coming from the Bears, as well as the rest of our draft picks, but they'll help fill out that back 15-20 as well possibly.

Those are a couple examples of how it could go down. It could go up simply if Bowlen is willing to spend more. It could also increase if Champ gets an extension with a lower '10 payout (at about $15M as of now) in exchange for multiple years.

There is a restriction where a playoff team in an uncapped year can basically only spend dollar for dollar on FA money added for FA money lost. I'm not sure how that deals with cap hits like Henry, Cutler, Bly, Bailey, etc.. If we make the playoffs and that money is viewed as FA money lost then we could easily extend Doom, Marshall, and Orton (probably all in the $9-$10M AAV at the utmost) and still have $20M+ to spend on FAs.

We're in a pretty interesting position. Xanders seems to have the finances sorted well for the first time in at least half a decade. If Bowlen is up for spending it Xanders and McDaniels will likely have a whole lot of ammo, dollars and picks, to make this team better for 2010.
With chicago taking on Cutlers contract we have no cap hit for cutler.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:18 AM   #9
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It's too bad Bowlen is a gutless drunk who won't spend any money!
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You reckon that resigning Orton, Marshall, Doom and Kuper should be quite manageable then?

Very nice, if so.
Re-signing Orton, Kuper and Scheffler was always going to be easy considering there wont be a big market for any of them.

Dumervil and Marshall have elevated themselves to top 5-10 players at their posiitons and it depends how much Bowlen wants to invest in them.
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If we sign Orton to a big long term contract we are idiots. He will be our backup of the future nothing more! Shanny is already hiring staff for the Washington gig so there goes another 10+ mill for the year. We lose alot of dead cap hits in an uncapped year too so we sign Marshall Doom, and Kuper for starters..no punn intended..lol, and we sign a big DL FA and we are in business! I would have said that we needed a big nasty Guard from FA but Hochstien has played solid and we can draft one for the future. Center is a concern aswell..Weig is getting old and might not be as good in Joshie's scheme.

PS Edit: Sheffler is going to go to a Restricted FA in an uncapped year. Don't fool yourself..that guy would get paid!! Kuper is a beast and would get paid elsewere too!

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If we sign Orton to a big long term contract we are idiots. He will be our backup of the future nothing more! Shanny is already hiring staff for the Washington gig so there goes another 10+ mill for the year. We lose alot of dead cap hits in an uncapped year too so we sign Marshall Doom, and Kuper for starters..no punn intended..lol, and we sign a big DL FA and we are in business! I would have said that we needed a big nasty Guard from FA but Hochstien has played solid and we can draft one for the future. Center is a concern aswell..Weig is getting old and might not be as good in Joshie's scheme.

PS Edit: Sheffler is going to go to a Restricted FA in an uncapped year. Don't fool yourself..that guy would get paid!! Kuper is a beast and would get paid elsewere too!
Sheffler is none too happy about his role here as of late and he knew McD was shopping him in this offseason so like you said he'll get paid I just don't think it will be here
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You reckon that resigning Orton, Marshall, Doom and Kuper should be quite manageable then?

Very nice, if so.
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It can be done with some reworked contracts and with Shanny getting a coaching gig.
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Orton was on a one year deal wasn't he? Then he will be FA. If we have him RFA we shouldn't give him a dollar! That would be sweet to keep him as a functional backup!
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Hopefully the Redskins or Cowboys will be good enough to take the 14 million we have committed to Shanahan off our hands as well, that should make Bowlens pockets seem even deeper.
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Shannahan is already hiring staff for Washington according to NFLN.
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It can be done with some reworked contracts and with Shanny getting a coaching gig.
Doom will be a UFA in the offseason assuming a new CBA is worked out.
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Doom will be a UFA in the offseason assuming a new CBA is worked out.
Which has about a 5% possibility of happening at this point. It is all but assured that next year will be uncapped and have no CBA in place.
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Sheffler is none too happy about his role here as of late and he knew McD was shopping him in this offseason so like you said he'll get paid I just don't think it will be here
You best friends with him or something?

Some of the unfounded posts around here are amazing.
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And how much money would Bowlen save in Shanny signs on to coach the Redskins...
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I was wondering the same thing...
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You best friends with him or something?

Some of the unfounded posts around here are amazing.
No but he was on the Fan speaking with Nate jackson and that was Nate's conclusion of the interview. Nate and Tony are tight
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I was wondering the same thing...
Drag: it's in the 13-14 mill range per year if (when)he gets signed by Washington. Unless Washington and the spend happy Snyder signs him for less per than he was owed here..then we pay the difference. Fat Chance on that with Snyder writing the checks!
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You best friends with him or something?

Some of the unfounded posts around here are amazing.
Sheff has the most catches by a TE in the league over the last three years untill Joshie came to town. The guy is 6'5 and 255 and runs a sub 4.6, would you be happy?
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I was wondering the same thing...
The entire remainder of shanahans contract. Which BTW has no bearing on the cap.
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Sheff has the most catches by a TE in the league over the last three years untill Joshie came to town. The guy is 6'5 and 255 and runs a sub 4.6, would you be happy?
If I'm winning? **** yeah I'd be happy.
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