Scouting reports for our 2008 draft picks... - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 12-03-2009, 12:50 PM

Anyone who has been following the Hillis thread may have seen the discussion of an odd scouting report. Long story short, we found quite a treasure trove of info on our draftees from 2008. Here is the discussion thread so you can see what's going on here...

Taco John:
The interesting thing about that unbiased scouting report that you're referencing... I can't find a single reference to either the company, or a similar scouting report from that same company anywhere else on the internet. It's difficult to believe that somebody would just "make it up." But I can't determine the legitimacy of their report to compare against what they've said about anyone else - say perhaps Cutler.

It's difficult to put too much stock in that scouting report when I can't even find the company that is listed on the report anywhere on the Internet. It's like they don't exist. It's really wierd.

Taco John:
I did manage to find a report for Earl Bennett and Jermichael Finley. But that's it. I was hoping to see what they might have said on Cutler. That would be interesting.

For those interested here is what Google found for the search term "HRT Report wonderlic"

BigPlayShay:
Here is a more refined search limited to just the site www.hrd-rtp.com

Much more results with that query. Ironically, here is a report on Cory "Cooked Crack" Boyd which rates him above average at an 8

Taco John:

Great sleuthing!

Hmmm... Unless I'm mistaken, they've only got players from the 2008 season.

Unfortunately, they didn't have anything for Clady...

But here is Eddie Royal

Here is Kory Litchstenstieger

Here is Jack Williams

Here is Ryan Torain

Here is Carlton Powell

Here is Spencer Larsen

Here is Josh Barrett

...and of course Peyton Hillis

What a find!

STBumpkin · 12-03-2009, 01:11 PM

Very cool, thanks for sharing.

outdoor_miner · 12-03-2009, 01:16 PM

Very cool - I can't believe those are still available... The Hillis one was found a month or two ago.

The thing that jumped out at me is the difference between Hillis' report and the others. All of the others were mostly positive. I am a big fan, and I hope he comes around (with the Broncos or someone else)... However, it really does make you wonder if he has some issues with coaching and the mental side of the game. Maybe when things don't go his way, he keeps spiraling downward.

Taco John · 12-03-2009, 01:33 PM

The one that I found most interesting was the Eddie Royal one, where he was rated a 5 overall, with a 2 out of 10 in mental quickness.

Popps · 12-03-2009, 01:34 PM

Good stuff.

Hard to say what this stuff was used for. It sure seems more like company type stuff than public consumption info. It's not written in a way that would seem to translate for the average net browser.

Bronco Boy · 12-03-2009, 01:38 PM

Bring back Powell.

BigPlayShay · 12-03-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinCitiesBronco

Bring back Powell.

He is back... on the Practice Squad.

Taco John · 12-03-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Good stuff.

Hard to say what this stuff was used for. It sure seems more like company type stuff than public consumption info. It's not written in a way that would seem to translate for the average net browser.

It looks to me like they might have been hired by the Giants (whoever HRT reports are - seems like a single year fly by night operation, maybe a scout who developed a ratings system and landed a contract or something).

It's definitely very interesting stuff.

BroncoDoug · 12-03-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinCitiesBronco

Bring back Powell.

umm,they did. He is on the PS if I'm not mistaken

TheDave · 12-03-2009, 01:45 PM

Ryan Clady...

http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Final/...%20OT_BXMS.doc

TheDave · 12-03-2009, 01:49 PM

Woodyard

http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Non-Gi...%20LB_LWxB.pdf

TheDave · 12-03-2009, 01:52 PM

Polumbus

http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Giants...20-%20TBE).doc

ColoradoBuff · 12-03-2009, 02:01 PM

great find!

Rohirrim · 12-03-2009, 02:11 PM

Damn. That's some interesting stuff. Clady's compared to Hillis' is remarkable.

TheDave · 12-03-2009, 03:51 PM

So does anyone know wha or who this place is?

PRBronco · 12-03-2009, 04:20 PM

Wow, Barrett's was a lot more encouraging than I was expecting, I was under the impression he had some shortcomings upstairs.

listopencil · 12-03-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Good stuff.

Hard to say what this stuff was used for. It sure seems more like company type stuff than public consumption info. It's not written in a way that would seem to translate for the average net browser.

The site was put up by Orbik, so it looks like an online data storage device. I still can't find who wrote the reports or why they exist at this point. Of course anyone can speculate...

Mr. Elway · 12-03-2009, 04:42 PM

Some sleuthing. I demoed this search back in October!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...64#post2599364

baja · 12-03-2009, 05:10 PM

I can't open any of the links here in Puerto Vallarta.

Popps · 12-03-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja

I can't open any of the links here in Puerto Vallarta.

I Shanahan down there? Just get copies from him.

baja · 12-03-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

I Shanahan down there? Just get copies from him.

He's pissed at me for posting about him on the Mane and disclosing he has a condo in Cabo.

BroncoBuff · 12-03-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja

I can't open any of the links here in Puerto Vallarta.

Then I guess you'll just have to sneak back into America hidden in the bed of an old pickup truck.

BroncoBuff · 12-03-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinCitiesBronco

Bring back Powell.

Bring back Jack.

BroncoBuff · 12-03-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Hard to say what this stuff was used for.

Nah, it's easy to say. The reports focus only on how receptive the player is to coaching, and how likely they are to listen and apply what they're taught More interesting, they discuss the player's personal confidence, how he will interact with teammates, and how how he'll respond to obstacles and setbacks associated with game prep and studying.

Also interesting is that none of the reports include 40-times, bench-press numbers, or stats of any kind. They don't even include height and weight.

12-03-2009, 12:50 PM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Scouting reports for our 2008 draft picks... Anyone who has been following the Hillis thread may have seen the discussion of an odd scouting report. Long story short, we found quite a treasure trove of info on our draftees from 2008. Here is the discussion thread so you can see what's going on here... Taco John: The interesting thing about that unbiased scouting report that you're referencing... I can't find a single reference to either the company, or a similar scouting report from that same company anywhere else on the internet. It's difficult to believe that somebody would just "make it up." But I can't determine the legitimacy of their report to compare against what they've said about anyone else - say perhaps Cutler. It's difficult to put too much stock in that scouting report when I can't even find the company that is listed on the report anywhere on the Internet. It's like they don't exist. It's really wierd. Taco John: I did manage to find a report for Earl Bennett and Jermichael Finley. But that's it. I was hoping to see what they might have said on Cutler. That would be interesting. For those interested here is what Google found for the search term "HRT Report wonderlic" BigPlayShay: Here is a more refined search limited to just the site www.hrd-rtp.com Much more results with that query. Ironically, here is a report on Cory "Cooked Crack" Boyd which rates him above average at an 8 Taco John: Great sleuthing! Hmmm... Unless I'm mistaken, they've only got players from the 2008 season. Unfortunately, they didn't have anything for Clady... But here is Eddie Royal Here is Kory Litchstenstieger Here is Jack Williams Here is Ryan Torain Here is Carlton Powell Here is Spencer Larsen Here is Josh Barrett ...and of course Peyton Hillis What a find!

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12-03-2009, 01:11 PM	#2
STBumpkin burnin' it at both ends Livin' The Dream Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Very cool, thanks for sharing.

12-03-2009, 01:16 PM	#3
outdoor_miner Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,097 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Very cool - I can't believe those are still available... The Hillis one was found a month or two ago. The thing that jumped out at me is the difference between Hillis' report and the others. All of the others were mostly positive. I am a big fan, and I hope he comes around (with the Broncos or someone else)... However, it really does make you wonder if he has some issues with coaching and the mental side of the game. Maybe when things don't go his way, he keeps spiraling downward.

12-03-2009, 01:33 PM	#4
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	The one that I found most interesting was the Eddie Royal one, where he was rated a 5 overall, with a 2 out of 10 in mental quickness.

12-03-2009, 01:34 PM	#5
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Good stuff. Hard to say what this stuff was used for. It sure seems more like company type stuff than public consumption info. It's not written in a way that would seem to translate for the average net browser.

12-03-2009, 01:38 PM	#6
Bronco Boy Avid Ambien Abuser It all makes so much sense! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Bring back Powell.

12-03-2009, 01:45 PM	#10
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Ryan Clady... http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Final/...%20OT_BXMS.doc

12-03-2009, 01:49 PM	#11
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Woodyard http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Non-Gi...%20LB_LWxB.pdf

12-03-2009, 01:52 PM	#12
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Polumbus http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Giants...20-%20TBE).doc

12-03-2009, 02:01 PM	#13
ColoradoBuff Ring of Famer In Manning We Trust...... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where the buffalo roam.... Posts: 2,002 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	great find!

12-03-2009, 02:11 PM	#14
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,798	Damn. That's some interesting stuff. Clady's compared to Hillis' is remarkable.

12-03-2009, 03:51 PM	#15
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	So does anyone know wha or who this place is?

12-03-2009, 04:20 PM	#16
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Wow, Barrett's was a lot more encouraging than I was expecting, I was under the impression he had some shortcomings upstairs.

12-03-2009, 04:42 PM	#18
Mr. Elway cakn patna Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 951	Some sleuthing. I demoed this search back in October! http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...64#post2599364

12-03-2009, 05:10 PM	#19
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,782 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I can't open any of the links here in Puerto Vallarta.