What's Your Take on Knowshon? - The Orange Mane

Rohirrim · 12-01-2009, 08:24 AM

Bust or superstar, or something in between? Put down your take for posterity.

I'm voting "future star."

Meck77 · 12-01-2009, 08:31 AM

Taco's been talking him down to average or even bust status so based on that alone you can bet the kid will be a superstar!

I think people forget that the kid is just a rookie and he's going to make some mistakes.

He'll rack up 1,200 next year. Easy.

jhns · 12-01-2009, 08:34 AM

I think he will be very good. He is a patient runner that follows his blockers. He hits the hole hard and breaks tackles. People also talk about how he is a good blocker but I haven't watched much of that. This all adds up to a good RB. He just needs to continue getting better like he has been.

Doggcow · 12-01-2009, 08:35 AM

Star, hopefully the naysayers vote as they are, so we can use this to prosecute them later!

Doggcow · 12-01-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jhns

I think he will be very good. He is a patient runner that follows his blockers. He hits the hole hard and breaks tackles. People also talk about how he is a good blocker but I haven't watched much of that. This all adds up to a good RB. He just needs to continue getting better like he has been.

Broken tackles are nice to see! Mike Bell still doesn't know how to do anything but run at deep safeties when brees pulls them out of the box every down.

azbroncfan · 12-01-2009, 08:37 AM

Good solid back, not HOF but a good solid back for 5-6 years.

Rohirrim · 12-01-2009, 08:37 AM

What I've been noticing as the season has gone on is that his decision making and "quicks" have improved. He sees the hole earlier now than he has in the past and he hits it with much more speed and authority. I put that in Bobby Turner's column. The next level is when Knowshon starts doing this all out of instinct, without thought. Then, IMO, he explodes.

SoDak Bronco · 12-01-2009, 08:38 AM

Hardworking and a Tough runner. He has all the tools to be very very good.

DrFate · 12-01-2009, 08:44 AM

He has some tools, but he puts the ball on the ground far too often right now. We'll see how the fickle hand of fate treats him.

peacepipe · 12-01-2009, 08:48 AM

He has alot of potential, he's no clinton Portis,but he could end up being a above avg RB. If he is lucky, he may break a 1,000 yds this season maybe 1,100. His main problem is he's a fumbler.

strafen · 12-01-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Star, hopefully the naysayers vote as they are, so we can use this to prosecute them later!

The bottom line is that if he was the star everybody here says he is, he would've shown that already.
We're still waiting. Call me when that happens, would ya'?

The guy gets more free passes for his fumbles than Cutler does in Chicago for his INT's...

cmhargrove · 12-01-2009, 08:55 AM

He has the tools, is a self driven hard worker, and he has shown continual progress throughout the year.

Also, the coaches are giving him every chance to succeed.

I think he gets better for at least the next two seasons as we continue to get bigger on the O-line. He should top out as a 1,500 yard rusher with about 300-400 yards receiving. Any player that can push 2,000 yards of total production is pretty damn good in my book.

Mountain Bronco · 12-01-2009, 08:56 AM

Solid back, not a super star though, but not a bust.

dbfan21 · 12-01-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

What I've been noticing as the season has gone on is that his decision making and "quicks" have improved. He sees the hole earlier now than he has in the past and he hits it with much more speed and authority. I put that in Bobby Turner's column. The next level is when Knowshon starts doing this all out of instinct, without thought. Then, IMO, he explodes.

This is exactly what I was going to say. His vision has improved dramatically. The work in practice with Turner is starting to pay dividends.

Broncos123 · 12-01-2009, 09:08 AM

I see him ready to break a few long ones. He has been close to doing that the past few weeks. He has been getting better every week. He needs to break one when we need it.

Tombstone RJ · 12-01-2009, 09:09 AM

Knowshon needs to be used in the right way and I think McD is finally understanding this. He needs to be involved in the offense early and often, establish the run with him and then untilize his talents ala Marshall Faulk.

Not sure why McD doesn't "get it."

Natedog24 · 12-01-2009, 09:10 AM

Not quite a Star, but not just an average back either. I don't think he bounce around the NFL from team to team either, I think he'll be a Bronco for most of his career. Just a solid, above average runningback.

ColoradoBuff · 12-01-2009, 09:12 AM

He will be a great, great RB for years to come. An all around good running back...we have just seen glimpses of what this young man can/will do for the Broncos!

Taco John · 12-01-2009, 09:16 AM

I don't know what he'll be in the future, but to date he's been an inconsistent back who has struggled on third downs, short yardage situations, and also on the goal line. His last three games have shown marked improvement, however. His touchdown on third and 1 this past week was impressive because he had to weave through short yardage traffic to make it happen. And more, he's finally finding open field and breaking off 20+ yard runs. He may be headed for his first career 100 yard game this upcoming week against the Chiefs - they give up an average of 135 per game. He hasn't had the performances or consistency that other first round backs in recent years have had, but he's shown glimpses of that potential.

strafen · 12-01-2009, 09:17 AM

He'll be like Ricky Williams minus the weed...
Once the hype wears off, and bounces around a team or two, he'll be a serviceable back...
A Selvyn Young type back...

mhgaffney · 12-01-2009, 09:19 AM

Knowshon's biggest problem is McDaniels. When did the Pats ever have a running game?

Doggcow · 12-01-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dragster69

He'll be like Ricky Williams minus the weed...
Once the hype wears off, and bounces around a team or two, he'll be a serviceable back...
A Selvyn Young type back...

Who is Selvyn Young? Never heard of him.

sirhcyennek81 · 12-01-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFate

He has some tools, but he puts the ball on the ground far too often right now. We'll see how the fickle hand of fate treats him.

Adrian Peterson has 15 fumbles that last two seasons. 4 is not great, but it could be alot worse.

RunSilentRunDeep · 12-01-2009, 09:24 AM

You tell the league he's coming. And he's bringing Hell with him!

go_broncos · 12-01-2009, 09:25 AM

He is OK..But, Hillis is much better in Short yardage situations.

View Poll Results: Knowshon: Star or Bust?
He'll be a top ten percenter. A Star in the NFL!	120	88.24%
He'll bounce around from team to team. An average back.	15	11.03%
Bust. He'll be out of the league within three years.	1	0.74%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

12-01-2009, 08:24 AM	#1
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,113	What's Your Take on Knowshon? Bust or superstar, or something in between? Put down your take for posterity. I'm voting "future star."

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12-01-2009, 08:31 AM	#2
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,324	Taco's been talking him down to average or even bust status so based on that alone you can bet the kid will be a superstar! I think people forget that the kid is just a rookie and he's going to make some mistakes. He'll rack up 1,200 next year. Easy.

12-01-2009, 08:34 AM	#3
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I think he will be very good. He is a patient runner that follows his blockers. He hits the hole hard and breaks tackles. People also talk about how he is a good blocker but I haven't watched much of that. This all adds up to a good RB. He just needs to continue getting better like he has been.

12-01-2009, 08:35 AM	#4
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,344 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Star, hopefully the naysayers vote as they are, so we can use this to prosecute them later!

12-01-2009, 08:37 AM	#6
azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	Good solid back, not HOF but a good solid back for 5-6 years.

12-01-2009, 08:38 AM	#8
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,133 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	Hardworking and a Tough runner. He has all the tools to be very very good.

12-01-2009, 08:44 AM	#9
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	He has some tools, but he puts the ball on the ground far too often right now. We'll see how the fickle hand of fate treats him.

12-01-2009, 08:48 AM	#10
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,846 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He has alot of potential, he's no clinton Portis,but he could end up being a above avg RB. If he is lucky, he may break a 1,000 yds this season maybe 1,100. His main problem is he's a fumbler.

12-01-2009, 08:55 AM	#12
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,424 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	He has the tools, is a self driven hard worker, and he has shown continual progress throughout the year. Also, the coaches are giving him every chance to succeed. I think he gets better for at least the next two seasons as we continue to get bigger on the O-line. He should top out as a 1,500 yard rusher with about 300-400 yards receiving. Any player that can push 2,000 yards of total production is pretty damn good in my book.

12-01-2009, 08:56 AM	#13
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,447	Solid back, not a super star though, but not a bust.

12-01-2009, 09:08 AM	#15
Broncos123 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 850	I see him ready to break a few long ones. He has been close to doing that the past few weeks. He has been getting better every week. He needs to break one when we need it.

12-01-2009, 09:09 AM	#16
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,527 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Knowshon needs to be used in the right way and I think McD is finally understanding this. He needs to be involved in the offense early and often, establish the run with him and then untilize his talents ala Marshall Faulk. Not sure why McD doesn't "get it."

12-01-2009, 09:10 AM	#17
Natedog24 Ring of Famer Win The Day Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,188 Adopt-a-Bronco: JeremiahJohnson	Not quite a Star, but not just an average back either. I don't think he bounce around the NFL from team to team either, I think he'll be a Bronco for most of his career. Just a solid, above average runningback.

12-01-2009, 09:12 AM	#18
ColoradoBuff Ring of Famer In Manning We Trust...... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where the buffalo roam.... Posts: 2,002 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	He will be a great, great RB for years to come. An all around good running back...we have just seen glimpses of what this young man can/will do for the Broncos!

12-01-2009, 09:16 AM	#19
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I don't know what he'll be in the future, but to date he's been an inconsistent back who has struggled on third downs, short yardage situations, and also on the goal line. His last three games have shown marked improvement, however. His touchdown on third and 1 this past week was impressive because he had to weave through short yardage traffic to make it happen. And more, he's finally finding open field and breaking off 20+ yard runs. He may be headed for his first career 100 yard game this upcoming week against the Chiefs - they give up an average of 135 per game. He hasn't had the performances or consistency that other first round backs in recent years have had, but he's shown glimpses of that potential.

12-01-2009, 09:17 AM	#20
strafen Karma Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,929 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elway	He'll be like Ricky Williams minus the weed... Once the hype wears off, and bounces around a team or two, he'll be a serviceable back... A Selvyn Young type back...

12-01-2009, 09:19 AM	#21
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,848	Knowshon's biggest problem is McDaniels. When did the Pats ever have a running game?

12-01-2009, 09:24 AM	#24
RunSilentRunDeep Ring of Famer I root for laundry Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius Thomas	You tell the league he's coming. And he's bringing Hell with him!

12-01-2009, 09:25 AM	#25
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	He is OK..But, Hillis is much better in Short yardage situations.