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Old 11-30-2009, 11:13 AM   #1
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Analysis: Broncos have rotten record in December games played in Kansas City
By Jeff Legwold
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Like most folks who deal with the ebb and flow of the coaching business, Broncos coach Josh McDaniels doesn't always like what the numbers have to say.

There are times when he will refer to statistics as "hollow."

But after a couple of days to put themselves back together after a 26-6 win over the Giants on Thanksgiving, the Broncos will spend the week staring in the face of one of the all-time statistical blips the franchise has to offer.

Because when it comes to the Broncos, the part of the calendar that has "December" stamped across the top and a game in Kansas City, their troubles have crossed decades, coaches and hundreds of players.

The Broncos are 1-16 in December games in Kansas City.

It hasn't mattered who they piled on the plane, it's all been pretty much the same. It hasn't mattered how they finished a regular season or how deep they went into the postseason.

It doesn't matter how good the Chiefs were or weren't. Since the Dallas Texans moved to Kansas City, none of it has mattered.

Good teams — like the 13-3 team in 2005, the 13-3 team in 1984, the 11-5 team in 1986 or the 11-5 team in 2000 — and bad teams, or teams in between, they all have made the trip from Denver to Kansas City, only to be disappointed in a maddening variety of ways. Dan Reeves, Mike Shanahan, Red Miller and John Ralston, and anyone else calling the shots, have tasted the pain, no matter how many wins or Super Bowl trips they eventually put on their résumés.

Even the two most successful coaches in Broncos history never solved the team's December riddle. Shanahan was 0-6 in December trips to Arrowhead Stadium with Denver and Reeves was 0-5.

The only breakthrough in Broncos history was coached by Wade Phillips, a 20-17 overtime victory on Dec. 4, 1994. That was the last win of his Denver tenure. That team lost its last three games of the season and Phillips was fired

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Old 11-30-2009, 11:16 AM   #2
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Has KC ever been as bad as they are now? Just saying.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:17 AM   #3
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I don't understand why Arrowhead is such a house of horrors for the Broncos in the month of December. I know the place is loud and a rivalry game can never be taken for granted, but what gives?
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That's with our old hall of fame coach! New coach now!
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:24 AM   #7
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I've been to a few of them and it's like the team just shows up and forgets how to play
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:25 AM   #8
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Now is the time to right all those December wrongs. Broncos need to sweep the chefs this year, there's just no getting around this fact.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:30 AM   #11
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We play them there...every year...in december. It's ****ing bull****.
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whats our record there in January aka playoff time?

I remember a win in January in 1997.
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(hand waving frantically) ooooh. ooohhhh. ooohhhhhh. oooh. call on me. i know.. oooooh!

you know how Vampires are allergic to garlic? and Superman is allergic to kryptonite?

well the Broncos are allergic to mullets! a stadium full of mullets is bad mojo for us.
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I remember a win in January in 1997.
That would have been January 1998.
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I remember a win in January in 1997.
Actually it was January 1998.......sorry to be picky.
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Actually it was January 1998.......sorry to be picky.

No biggie, the win was great none the less. Its great to win in Arrowhead when it matters, like the month of January, I could care less about December.
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No biggie, the win was great none the less. Its great to win in Arrowhead when it matters, like the month of January, I could care less about December.
yeah, this is a meaningless game....
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Ya, last year. And we all remember how that panned out. And yes, I know that it wasnt in December. Nonetheless, it was a pounding. I dont expect to win this game no matter how poorly the mullets are playing.
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Back in 2000, Denver was in the driver's seat to win the AFC West and a loss there in week 16 cost them the division. Tony Richardson ran all over Denver. I never take any division games for granted, especially on the road.

You always throw out the records in a rivalry game and come out swinging!
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yeah, this is a meaningless game....

ya...well i didnt say its meaningless, because we need it for the playoffs, but my point was I dont care what our record at Arrowhead in December is, as long as we are winning there in January.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:50 AM   #23
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I just want this to be another thing Mcdaniels changes, I want him to come in to arrowhead kicking ass and taking names.

This game more than any other we have played this year is a game we can not afford to lose. If Orton stays mistake free and we don't kill ourselves with stupid fumbles and penalties we will win, this is ours for the taking.

The one thing I want to see is how Mcdaniels preps for Cassel, he may know Cassel better than any other coach in the league and I bet he knows what Cassel doesn't like. This game could get ugly either way.
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This time, we give them an ass-kicking to remember.
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