HOF - TD / Denver Screwed again

[RHANDZ]

Anyone else look at the announcement of the 25 semi-finalists...

Then go to the link page http://www.fanschoice.com/ indicated on the page. In 9th place in the voting they have Davis, but it is a trainer Otho Davis and he's not in the list of semi-finalist.

I sure hope, this "fan" vote won't have anything to do with who gets elected to the HOF...

If so, TD should sue....

[RHANDZ]

Nevermind it's a popularity contest... They include Joe Theisman

Still rigged,

[RhymesayersDU]

To be fair, Otho Davis was a pioneer in his day.

[GoBroncos DownUnder]

Originally Posted by RHANDZ

I sure hope, this "fan" vote won't have anything to do with who gets elected to the HOF...

I see the "fan vote" as another attempt to get the half-witted voters to DO THEIR JOB CORRECTLY, it's in the same vein as involving Dan Snyder.
Sad to see the voters (incompetent douche-bag journalists) get carried with their bull**** pissing matches year after year. If a guy is worthy, PUT HIM IN and move on, don't split hairs over how many years he should wait, or his effect on the "make up" of that year's HoF Class!


Here - I BOLDED the 3 guys who IMO are locks to go in and put a * next to the names of all those who should ALREADY be inducted:

The complete list of 25 modern-era semifinalists is as follows:

Cliff Branch, WR – 1972-1985 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
* Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Dermontti Dawson, C – 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers
Richard Dent, DE – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Chris Doleman, DE/LB – 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
* Russ Grimm, G – 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
* Ray Guy, P – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Rickey Jackson, LB – 1981-1993 New Orleans Saints, 1994-95 San Francisco 49ers
Cortez Kennedy, DT – 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens
*John Randle, DT – 1990-2000 Minnesota Vikings, 2001-03 Seattle Seahawks
* Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Jerry Rice, WR – 1985-2000 San Francisco 49ers, 2001-04 Oakland Raiders, 2004 Seattle Seahawks
* Shannon Sharpe, TE – 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens
Emmitt Smith, RB – 1990-2002 Dallas Cowboys, 2003-04 Arizona Cardinals
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, Special Teams/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams

The list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era candidates. That list increases to 17 finalist nominees with the inclusion of the two recommended candidates of the Hall of Fame’s Seniors Committee. The Seniors Committee nominees, who were announced in August, are * Dick LeBeau and * Floyd Little. LeBeau played 14 seasons (1959-1972) at cornerback for the Detroit Lions. Little, a running back played nine seasons (1967-1975) for the Denver Broncos.

[BuckinKaeding]

Terrel Davis was a hell of a player for a 3 or 4 year stretch, doesn't mean hes a hall of famer, sorry.

[TheElusiveKyleOrton]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Terrel Davis was a hell of a player for a 3 or 4 year stretch, doesn't mean hes a hall of famer, sorry.

Hell of a player? He was the best player in the league for 3-4 years, won a league MVP and a Super Bowl MVP, plus two rings, in that time.

Better numbers than Gale Sayers, and he's in.

[BuckinKaeding]

Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

Hell of a player? He was the best player in the league for 3-4 years, won a league MVP and a Super Bowl MVP, plus two rings, in that time.

Better numbers than Gale Sayers, and he's in.

There is still Debate whether Kurt Warner is a HOF'er or not, and a lot of people are saying not, and I would say hes had a better career overall than TD.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

Hell of a player? He was the best player in the league for 3-4 years, won a league MVP and a Super Bowl MVP, plus two rings, in that time.

Better numbers than Gale Sayers, and he's in.

Unfortunately, due to our own system(ZBS) where during the past 10 yrs or so we were sticking almost any joe schmoe back there to run for 1,000 yds+ are hurting his chance of getting in. How much of his numbers were due to the ZBS?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Terrel Davis was a hell of a player for a 3 or 4 year stretch, doesn't mean hes a hall of famer, sorry.

The funny thing is, he was also a SB MVP, a regular season MVP and one of only 6 RBs to rush for over 2000 yards in one season. I do believe every other RB to rush for over 2000 yards in one season is in the HOF.

His body of work in such a short amount of time is incredible. Plus, he's got two championship rings to go with all the accolades.

Now, if that ain't HOF material, then the HOF is a joke.

We all know LT will probably get in the HOF some day based on his longevity. But I seriously doubt TD would trade LT careers if it meant no championships.

[TheElusiveKyleOrton]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

Unfortunately, due to our own system(ZBS) where during the past 10 yrs or so we were sticking almost any joe schmoe back there to run for 1,000 yds+ are hurting his chance of getting in. How much of his numbers were due to the ZBS?

Did any of them reach 2000 yards? Were any of them pulled in the third quarter of games the year they reached 2000 yards? The answer is no.

he could have run for 2500 if Shan didn't pull him in half those games in '98. The guy was as close to "unstoppable" as you can get.

[DrFate]

Davis will never get in HOF. He simply didn't play long enough (although for about 3 years he was beyond dominant)

Yes he has better numbers than Sayers. Yes Sayers is in.

I didn't say it made sense.

[NFLBRONCO]

If he played in Pitt Dal or Chi NE he'd be in.

[bronco militia]

as long as Peter King has a HOF vote, the broncos will continue to struggle in the HOF

**** that a-hole

[Rohirrim]

Compare the Broncos to the other old AFL teams in the AFCW and it's a sad story. Hell, the Chargers have never won a SB and have three times as many players in the HOF. The Chiefs have one SB win almost forty years ago and three times as many. The Raiders have won one more SB than the Broncos and have five times the players in.

[broncosteven]

Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

If he played in Pitt Dal or Chi NE he'd be in.

If he played 3-4 years longer he would be in ALREADY.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by broncosteven

If he played 3-4 years longer he would be in ALREADY.

When the average lifespan of most NFL running backs is only 2 1/2 years, why is the amount of time TD spent in the league an issue. The question is was he the most dominate player at his position within a 5 year period and the answer is yes.

[Northman]

TD belongs in the HOF, whether or not he gets there is another story. Does he belong before some of those guys in the list first? Probably not but eventually he should be allowed in.

[jutang]

I'm sure Portis will get in the HOF given how much longevity plays into getting votes. Yet I doubt GMs would pick Curtis Martin, Portis, or LT over TD if they had their choice to build a Superbowl winner.

[Doggcow]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

There is still Debate whether Kurt Warner is a HOF'er or not, and a lot of people are saying not, and I would say hes had a better career overall than TD.

A better career? TD won TWO superbowls, last I checked TWO is more than ONE.

[Pony Boy]

I posted this in another thread but it's just too good not to post here also...... can you say goosebumps.....

[boltaneer]

Of course longevity plays a vital part to get into the HoF.

Even though he played in Denver, I like TD since he's a San Diego guy. But he just didn't play enough to be HoF material. It sucks for him but that's the way it is.

That being said, I can't see Portis getting in. He was a very good player for a while but never really dominant.

[El Jué]

Originally Posted by elsid13

When the average lifespan of most NFL running backs is only 2 1/2 years, why is the amount of time TD spent in the league an issue.

Because it is. You don't have to agree.

Originally Posted by elsid13

The question is was he the most dominate player at his position within a 5 year period and the answer is yes.

No, it is not THE question. It is only your question and it is just not good enough.

[BuckinKaeding]

Originally Posted by Doggcow

A better career? TD won TWO superbowls, last I checked TWO is more than ONE.

Does Brandon Stokely have a better career than Randy Moss?

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by El Jué

Because it is. You don't have to agree.



No, it is not THE question. It is only your question and it is just not good enough.

Explain to me why you think not being the most dominating player in your era isn't the only question? HOF should award guys like Bettis, who did nothing but hang on and become a back that only fall forward?

[Dean]

I believe the stat that is overlooked is that he raised his level of play once he reached the play-offs. When the games were the most important and against the strongest opponents TD excelled. Now, how many RBs can you say that about?