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Old 11-27-2009, 08:18 AM   #1
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Congrats to the defense for an outstanding game against the Giants.

Obviously, the focus and intensity were there, and i have a good feeling about how the club will respond over the remainer of the schedule.

All that said...

Did we make Eli look horrible?

Or is he, in fact, horrible?

It's amazing to think Eli recently got a nearly $100M extension. I say that because

(1) Eli obviously couldn't CARRY his team...

(2) Eli couldn't even LEAD his team...

(3) Eli reverted to the 'mopey' demeanor that totally has the vibe of a QB who doesn't WANT to be "The Guy". Totally Jeff George-esque.

On the basis of this entire season, I'd say Eli has dropped down to #3 in in his draft class of QBs, with Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers significantly ahead of him.

My take: Eli is capable of managing the game on a high quality team, but on a lesser team, he implodes. From the Giants' first offensive play last night, Eli was making mistakes and failing to see open receivers.

He's Peyton's brother, but he just isn't especially good.

Again, props to our 'D' for embarrassing and exposing Eli.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:19 AM   #2
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:20 AM   #3
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eli is a good QB, hes got a superbowl ring against the 18-0 patriots...

hes not his brother, but hes good and definitely worth the extension.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:23 AM   #4
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Eli would have to start throwing his teammates under the bus in order to reach Jay's level, but it's interesting to note that neither the Bears or the Giants look like they're playoff material.... despite the fact that their QBs are supposed to be playoff material.

They sure aren't playing like it.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:23 AM   #5
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eli is a good QB, hes got a superbowl ring against the 18-0 patriots...

hes not his brother, but hes good and definitely worth the extension.
Would you rather have Eli, or Orton?

For the money (and cap space), I'd rather have Kyle.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:25 AM   #6
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Would you rather have Eli, or Orton?

For the money (and cap space), I'd rather have Kyle.
Eli is a significantly better player. He is missing a big playmaking WR, and Brandon Jacobs is tiptoeing this year for some reason
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:26 AM   #7
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He looked a lot better to me when he had Burress out there.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:35 AM   #8
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To me he looked like a guy who had zero interest in playing this game. Wasn't he the one that pouted about short week.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:21 AM   #9
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I think Eli is a good QB, but he is overrated due to his name. He could've easily wound up with 4 interceptions in this game, Goodman dropped a couple and there was a chance someone else had on a play if I remember right.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:28 AM   #10
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Why can't we just say that Eli and the Giants ran in to a good Denver defense.

Why does it have to be "what's the matter with Eli?"
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:28 AM   #11
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To me he looked like a guy who had zero interest in playing this game. Wasn't he the one that pouted about short week.
That's exactly what it looked like...
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:32 AM   #12
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Why can't we just say that Eli and the Giants ran in to a good Denver defense.

Why does it have to be "what's the matter with Eli?"
Go back and look at the opening sentence of the original post.

The 'D' played well... but after getting embarrassed the previous week, it's entirely likely that Eli is part of the equasion, too.

Not saying Eli is bad -- we can save that talk for JaMarcus Russell-- but he must be a MAJOR disappointment to Giants fans, considering what he cost them, the cap space he occupies, and the lack of leadership he displays..
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:44 AM   #13
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Eli is a decent to good QB but don't ever confuse him with an elite QB.

He got his ring and his new fat contract because Asante Samuel dropped an easy INT and because of David Tyree's helmet.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:51 AM   #14
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When the defense is playing like it did last night (like it did to start the season) they make QB's look really foolish. Palmer looked pretty awful. Brady looked terrible (and threw for like 6 TD's the very next week). Romo looked like an idiot.

This defense, when it's head is in the right place, can do that. They get a lot of pressure, move the pocket up the middle, and the secondary may be the best in the league.

I think it's hard to blame it on Eli... it's sort of becoming a trend.
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I think the Bronco defense made Manning and the Giants look bad than Manning being a bad QB or whatever. Sure, the Giants have been also in a funk themselves, but Manning threw for like 380 yards the week before, so not like he's been playing horrible.
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:20 AM   #16
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Eli's not horrible, but he's not in the elite QB club either. He suffers because Coughlin is one of the most gutless playcallers in the league. The guy is such a p***Y.
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:31 AM   #17
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Would you rather have Eli, or Orton?

For the money (and cap space), I'd rather have Kyle.
are you serious theres nothing wrong with Eli Damn sometimes this place is idiotic
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:43 AM   #18
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are you serious theres nothing wrong with Eli Damn sometimes this place is idiotic
I kept yelling throughout the game:

"Eli, you are NOT your brother."

And yes, he definitely was assuming the Cutleresque persona last night of wishing he was anywhere but playing at Invesco field.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:48 AM   #19
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To me he looked like a guy who had zero interest in playing this game. Wasn't he the one that pouted about short week.
He wasn't the only one. Him, the owner, other teammates. I kinda wonderd if they just mailed it in...
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:09 PM   #20
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are you serious theres nothing wrong with Eli Damn sometimes this place is idiotic
Nothing wrong with Eli?

Just admit you didn't watch the game.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:12 PM   #21
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Eli just had a bad game, and a lot of it had to do with us bullrushing the quarterback and making him hurry his throws...
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Eli Orton Eli played like crap b/c the rest of his team on both sides of the the ball played like crap. Same held true for Orton over the previous 4 week losing streak.
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He wasn't the only one. Him, the owner, other teammates. I kinda wonderd if they just mailed it in...
Yeah Brandon Jacobs was an epic letdown, I spent all week worrying about that??
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Eli's a good QB. He just ran into a defense playing good team football. nuff said
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:40 PM   #25
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Where was this pressure defense the last four games? I'm glad the coaches "woke up" and realized what we need to do to win. Pressure, pressure, pressure. I hope we play like this the rest of the way.
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