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Old 11-16-2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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Even if he is a decent QB (meaning he can hit the broad side of a barn with the football), he takes away our biggest advantage on offense (Clady as the blind side tackle) and puts our weakest OL player in the most important position (assuming that Harris is still out).

Being a lefty really doesn't help for a smooth transition to the backup QB which is why Tom B should be Seriously considered.

Didn't see a thread on this angle, and I would hope this thread will stay on this specific topic since all the others go off topic quickly.
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Even if he is a decent QB (meaning he can hit the broad side of a barn with the football), he takes away our biggest advantage on offense (Clady as the blind side tackle) and puts our weakest OL player in the most important position (assuming that Harris is still out).

Being a lefty really doesn't help for a smooth transition to the backup QB which is why Tom B should be Seriously considered.

Didn't see a thread on this angle, and I would hope this thread will stay on this specific topic since all the others go off topic quickly.
He shouldn't be considered, just like it was completely asinine to say we should give Simms a chance when Orton was healthy.

Simms is number 2 for a reason, and Brandstater is number 3 for a reason. I seriously doubt that McD overlooked the fact that Simms is left handed when he did the depth chart.
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He shouldn't be considered, just like it was completely asinine to say we should give Simms a chance when Orton was healthy.

Simms is number 2 for a reason, and Brandstater is number 3 for a reason. I seriously doubt that McD overlooked the fact that Simms is left handed when he did the depth chart.
But but but....we watch all the games. We are perfectly qualified to make personnel decisions for a pro football franchise
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He shouldn't be considered, just like it was completely asinine to say we should give Simms a chance when Orton was healthy.

Simms is number 2 for a reason, and Brandstater is number 3 for a reason. I seriously doubt that McD overlooked the fact that Simms is left handed when he did the depth chart.
As much as I'd normally agree with the whole "depth chart" argument, when it comes to McD, you almost have to ignore it in this scenario. If he's being consistent here, he may just play TB sooner than people think. Why? All season long we've seen him bench guys who mess up even once. Hillis, Moreno, Buch, etc. Mess up even once and you're lucky to see the field again that game. Simms may have been bad enough yesterday to get the wheels turning at least.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:27 AM   #5
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As much as I'd normally agree with the whole "depth chart" argument, when it comes to McD, you almost have to ignore it in this scenario. If he's being consistent here, he may just play TB sooner than people think. Why? All season long we've seen him bench guys who mess up even once. Hillis, Moreno, Buch, etc. Mess up even once and you're lucky to see the field again that game. Simms may have been bad enough yesterday to get the wheels turning at least.

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Simms was bad enough yesterday to clear out his locker today.
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Phil Simm's kid ****ing sucks and only has a job in the NFL because he's Phil Simm's kid.
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The only reason I really want to see Tom B in there is simply because I think it would be more fun. I'm sure he's not prepared though, even though he throws the sweetest ball on the team.
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Phil Simms's kid on the roster doesn't even make any ****ing sense. Cut him today, because if anybody should get experience it should be Brandstater.
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Wow, people really answered the question. This board is more ****ed than I thought.

How much of a ****ing difference does it make that he is a southpaw (left handed for you dumb SOB's)?
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That's an interesting theory. A left-handed Simms forced Polumbus to protect the blindside. It's very possible that the right-handed Brandstater could have done a better job...
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Wow, people really answered the question. This board is more ****ed than I thought.

How much of a ****ing difference does it make that he is a southpaw (left handed for you dumb SOB's)?
Do you have any idea why bad lt's are moved to rt?
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Wow, people really answered the question. This board is more ****ed than I thought.

How much of a ****ing difference does it make that he is a southpaw (left handed for you dumb SOB's)?
makes a big difference, especially when you consider the left side of our line is the strong part off our line. Clady is the best LT in the league responsible for blocking the blind side of a RIGHT handed QB. but with Simms being a lefty that duty of blind side protection falls to the right side tackle, and with Harris out, it is Polumbus duty. do you truly feel safe with Simms who sucks with good protection to be protected by a guy with 1 start for his career?

seriously, did you watch Simms, the guy couldn't complete dump off passes, which are the bread and butter of game manager throws. i don't care if he was rusty. rusty means a QB was off throwing farther than 10 yards. any halfway decent QB in the league can complete a dump off pass to the RB.

yesterday we probably would have been better with Prater taking snaps rather than Simms
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Simms will not get better. He's a fifty percenter. Always has been. Always will be. He'll give you as many INTs as TDs and a whole bunch of bad passes. If we're lucky, this week he'll at least have the decency to throw it out of bounds, if he can manage to hit that.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:00 PM   #16
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Even if he is a decent QB (meaning he can hit the broad side of a barn with the football), he takes away our biggest advantage on offense (Clady as the blind side tackle) and puts our weakest OL player in the most important position (assuming that Harris is still out).

Being a lefty really doesn't help for a smooth transition to the backup QB which is why Tom B should be Seriously considered..
That's the first thing I pointed out to some friends at the bar yesterday when Simms came in......Their best o-lineman no longer protecting the blindside.

Sucks.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:05 PM   #17
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As much as I'd normally agree with the whole "depth chart" argument, when it comes to McD, you almost have to ignore it in this scenario. If he's being consistent here, he may just play TB sooner than people think. Why? All season long we've seen him bench guys who mess up even once. Hillis, Moreno, Buch, etc. Mess up even once and you're lucky to see the field again that game. Simms may have been bad enough yesterday to get the wheels turning at least.
I agree with this. Simms holding the ball too long and his piss poor accuracy have to make McD at least consider Brandstater. I know a seventh round rookie is a last resort option at best, but as bad as Simms played you have to figure it's at least on the table as a possible lateral move with some upside.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:27 PM   #18
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I've seen a few people bring up Jeff Garcia, perhaps in jest, but I'm not joking. He's a vet who I would feel much more comfortable with starting next week than Chris Simms or Tom Brandstater. I'd think he could come in and manage the game, maybe do just enough to give us a chance to win if our defense plays well. Crazy talk?
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Josh made his decision clear ... it's "definitely" Simms.

Let's just hope Orton can play.
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Maybe Simms should just try and throw right-handed. Couldn't be much worse than when he threw left-handed.
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He shouldn't be considered, just like it was completely asinine to say we should give Simms a chance when Orton was healthy.

Simms is number 2 for a reason, and Brandstater is number 3 for a reason. I seriously doubt that McD overlooked the fact that Simms is left handed when he did the depth chart.
I'll say unequivicolly I like Brandstater over Simms.
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Okay, please don't laugh me off the board with this one....

BUT, how difficult would it be for a tackle to switch from one side of the line to the other?

I did it in high school, but obviously that was a few universes away from the nfl. My point being, would the transition be incredibly difficult?
essentially, there would be a LOT of switching of your gap assignments, but from what I understand the lineman already know exactly what the others alongside them are responsible for already.

Has this ever been tried? Is there just too much technique in a LT's game that doesn't translate to the right side?
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The only reason I really want to see Tom B in there is simply because I think it would be more fun. I'm sure he's not prepared though, even though he throws the sweetest ball on the team.
Not only does he throw the sweetest ball on the team, he's also ahem, ahaw, ahem, rrrrrrr, I got something caught in my throat, ahem, muh,MUH, he's probably the best QB on the team.
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Moreno in the wild-horses formation early and often. Keep Rivers off the field.
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I don't know who throws the better left handed interceptions, Simms or Orton.
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