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View Poll Results: Should the NFL expand into Europe?
Yes 8 12.31%
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Maybe 7 10.77%
Sure. I'm Europe's mentor... 2 3.08%
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:46 PM   #1
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Poll to follow...

Was watching inside the NFL, they had a segment on college football in Mexico, and a team that has won 5 straight titles. 8 of those players received invites to NFL teams for tryouts.

After the segment, the panel was talking about the NFL expanding over to London, and possibly a second European city.

I dont think that would work, but wanted to know the board's thoughts.

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The only place in Europe that had any sustained interest in American football was Germany.....why the NFL seemingly insists on the UK over Deutchland is a bit of a headscratcher given the results of the whole NFL Eurpoa thing.

They're better off absorbing the CFL IMHO than going to Europe.
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I voted yes because no date was given in the question. At some point I think expanding to Europe is a great idea. I'd love to see another European league. I think first they need to create a viable minor league and then work on expanding into Canada and Mexico. Keep having games in Europe to boost interest and then eventually start developmental leagues over there. It will take time but it will happen.
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I voted yes because no date was given in the question. At some point I think expanding to Europe is a great idea. I'd love to see another European league.
Another German league you mean
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Another German league you mean
Well you gotta start somewhere, and obviously Germany has the demand, but I think in time other European countries would accept a minor football league.
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Put a team in Toronto and another in Mexico City first.
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No way in hell.

It's already ridiculous they play regular season games in London.
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**** flying and getting an upwards of 8-9 hour time shifts to play games.

If the NFL wants European teams here's an idea... MAKE A ****ING EUROPEAN NFL LEAGUE.

Oh wait... what happened to NFL Europe.
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It's American football
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forget that it is an american sport, think of the logistics involved, its ridiculous. if they want an NFL league they need to make one, just like basketball did.
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I voted yes because no date was given in the question. At some point I think expanding to Europe is a great idea. I'd love to see another European league. I think first they need to create a viable minor league and then work on expanding into Canada and Mexico. Keep having games in Europe to boost interest and then eventually start developmental leagues over there. It will take time but it will happen.
Any time they've tried to set up minor leagues over here they fail.

Soccer is too popular, the majority of people in the UK view football as a crappy version of rugby, only with lots of breaks in the action and with players who are too soft to play without pads.

It's retarded, I know, but that's the view many people have.

The best young athletes are always going to end up playing soccer or rugby, or even cricket. The guys who'll take up football are the ones who basically aren't good enough to play any of those sports. Similiar to how it is in the US, people don't take up soccer unless they aren't good enough to make the football, basketball or baseball teams.

So, the minor league's over here will end up just being filled with American guys not good enough to play in the NFL. When people have the pinnacle of professional soccer available to them, what motivation is there to go and see a substandard football league?

Moving a full scale franchise to Europe is the only way that the sport has a chance to take off. People will be interested in seeing the best the sport has to offer, and if a team moved to London, for example, and did well then maybe it could take off.

I'd assume the reason that they're targetting the UK instead of Germany so much is a language thing, as much as anything.
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No, no, no and erm no.
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The only place in Europe that had any sustained interest in American football was Germany.....why the NFL seemingly insists on the UK over Deutchland is a bit of a headscratcher given the results of the whole NFL Eurpoa thing.

They're better off absorbing the CFL IMHO than going to Europe.
And the only reason it is so popular in Germany is because of the American military presence and the number of Americans living there.
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The only place in Europe that had any sustained interest in American football was Germany.....why the NFL seemingly insists on the UK over Deutchland is a bit of a headscratcher given the results of the whole NFL Eurpoa thing.

They're better off absorbing the CFL IMHO than going to Europe.
2nd class American Football.

Who on earth wants to watch practice squad players every week because at that given time that's exactly what those players were that played in that league.

If there isn't enough interest in the UK for a franchise how come a single game in the UK in terms of revenue brings in the same money for the NFL as say 5 Bills or 5 Jags home games
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Now if you put a franchise in Europe with Tom Brady at QB, Randy Moss at WR, Knowshon Moreno at RB, etc etc, you get the drift, you're guaranteed 100k a game for every single game. Fact and that's what the Goodell and the rest see. $$$$$
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Now imagine being a season ticket holder and having a home game in Munich.

Come on man!
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A league is not the way forward. They've tried that and it did not work. No-one is going to pay $200 a game to watch some CFB bum who didn't make the 53 in Kansas City and why should they.

The NFL want a European team, with NFL stars in it, to compete in the NFL against the likes of us Broncos and that IMO is an excellent idea and it will work, because not only is there a market, there's also a stadium that holds over 100,000 already there that's only used 10-12 times the rest of the year.
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Now imagine being a season ticket holder and having a home game in Munich.

Come on man!
It would be a new franchise so why would you be buying a season ticket
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It's not fair to the players. Absolutely NOT.
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It's not fair to the players. Absolutely NOT.
Be up to them wouldn't it. Plenty of sportsmen spend the majority of the playing season away from their families.

I'd say there's quite a few NFL stars would love to live in the bright lights of London.
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The only place in Europe that had any sustained interest in American football was Germany.....why the NFL seemingly insists on the UK over Deutchland is a bit of a headscratcher given the results of the whole NFL Eurpoa thing.

They're better off absorbing the CFL IMHO than going to Europe.
Because everything is in English there.

The CFL can't be absorbed by the NFL, the only team with any kind of hope is Toronto, the remaining teams can't raise enough money or build a big enough stadium.
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2nd class American Football.

Who on earth wants to watch practice squad players every week because at that given time that's exactly what those players were that played in that league.

If there isn't enough interest in the UK for a franchise how come a single game in the UK in terms of revenue brings in the same money for the NFL as say 5 Bills or 5 Jags home games
How do most colleges fill their stadiums every week? they play on an even lower level than many NFL Europe teams used to.
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Be up to them wouldn't it. Plenty of sportsmen spend the majority of the playing season away from their families.

I'd say there's quite a few NFL stars would love to live in the bright lights of London.
is it fair to the players in london to have to travel whatever amount of hours to US, changing that many time zones 8 times per year? or for teams here to go there and play them when they are in central time (or whatever) and trying to adjust to the time change while the time in london is normal for them? thats whats not fair.
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And the only reason it is so popular in Germany is because of the American military presence and the number of Americans living there.
Doubtful. I went to some games and the percentage of military personel was tiny from my impressions.
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2nd class American Football.

Who on earth wants to watch practice squad players every week because at that given time that's exactly what those players were that played in that league.

If there isn't enough interest in the UK for a franchise how come a single game in the UK in terms of revenue brings in the same money for the NFL as say 5 Bills or 5 Jags home games
That's a single game, which to any city without a franchsie would do very well on novelity factor alone, let's see them sustain that over a few years, especially ones with losing seasons and you'll have you're true determination.

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Be up to them wouldn't it. Plenty of sportsmen spend the majority of the playing season away from their families.

I'd say there's quite a few NFL stars would love to live in the bright lights of London.
It was stated on NFL Countdown (I believe) that the majority of players do not like playing a regular season game overseas due to the long travel....take it for what it's worth.

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The CFL can't be absorbed by the NFL, the only team with any kind of hope is Toronto, the remaining teams can't raise enough money or build a big enough stadium.
I don't buy the $$$ reasoning due to the recent exchange rate bringing the loonie close to dollar value (and sometimes exceeding it). Of course places like Hamilton would be eliminated but Toronto (even though the dome is a bit too small for NFL type crowds), Montreal and Vancouver could support NFL franchises and may even be able to build new stadiums if such a merger took place.
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