Broncos Ravens discussion thread - The Orange Mane

Rocket 7 · 10-25-2009, 06:43 PM

Bye week is over. We have the Ravens next.

tsiguy96 · 10-25-2009, 06:44 PM

hows their oline blocking? their pass rush isnt what it used to be and their pass defense just straight sucks, so if we can get orton cruising like last 2 weeks, we win no questions.

iDENVER · 10-25-2009, 07:01 PM

this will be the very first NFL game i attend so broncos will win

BlaK-Argentina · 10-25-2009, 07:23 PM

Can't wait. I want to see how sharp we look after the bye. McD should have the team extra prepared.

Still think it'll be a tough game, I'm hoping for a convincing win to take the momentum all the way to Indy.

Irish Stout · 10-25-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina

Can't wait. I want to see how sharp we look after the bye. McD should have the team extra prepared.

Still think it'll be a tough game, I'm hoping for a convincing win to take the momentum all the way to Indy.

I hope so, but most of the guys went home or really just took a week off. Its nice for the rest home they come into practice this week with eager minds ready to learn how to take down another formidable opponent!

BRONCOS!!!

Rocket 7 · 10-25-2009, 07:35 PM

We still never won at that stadium.

BlaK-Argentina · 10-25-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipso

We still never won at that stadium.

Party pooper.

Rabb · 10-25-2009, 07:50 PM

Ray Ray will chew off one of Royal's feet and throw it to Ed Reed for a 100 yard return for a score, then eat Royal's other foot

Ngata will sack Orton 65 or 66 times while running backwards

Flacco will pass for as many yards as touchdowns, 350...in the first half

infinity to -2 (we will actually give ourselves a safety) is my guess

Inkana7 · 10-25-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipso

We still never won at that stadium.

Didn't we beat em 12-10 in 2005? Or was that at Mile High?

NYBronc · 10-25-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

Didn't we beat em 12-10 in 2005? Or was that at Mile High?

That was at mile high. But c'mon guys this is the Browns franchise, really, when you think about it. This is Art's team and we own Art.

SJ Bronco · 10-25-2009, 08:03 PM

I think you should watch Oher VS Doom...gonna be a big difference if doom can get a rush. you saw what happened when the QB had time.

gyldenlove · 10-25-2009, 08:16 PM

Their offensive line is good without impressing, the run blocking is pretty good, they have a lot of power, but against quickness they can be beaten.

A quick breakdown reveals we match up well on the outside with our corners being better than their recievers so we should be able to man up 1 on 1 for long stretches so we can focus on taking away the ground game which is good and getting to Flacco. I think we see the same strategy we had against Gates and Witten and use a lot of pressure on the QB to keep the TE in short routes and blocking at the line rather than roaming down field.

On defense they are good but not great. A weakness they have is if you can get an OL to Ray Lewis then Gooden isn't nearly as good against the run so you can leave the RB to deal with him. Suggs is still a threat on the outside we have to account for him in both passing and running situations. Their cornerbacks are small (very small) and not very good 1 on 1, so I think Marshall will see a lot of Ed Reed, this should open up a lot of passes to Gaffney, Royal and Stokley and any matchup of Scheffler and Gooden or Landry is almost an auto win for Scheffler.

The way to win this one is going to be to keep the ball away from Ed Reed, keep Orton clean and use our speed up front to move the defense sideways, they don't do that as well and that will open lanes for Moreno and Buckhalter.

We need to make sure we don't lose the field position battle because they are very opportunistic and with Rice they have a guy who is a threat anywhere on the field. He is very elusive and can catch the ball out of the backfield as well any RB.

If we can keep their offense under control, and I think we can, then we have a pretty good matchup with our spread offense against their poor cornerbacks. I am looking for Gaffney to have a good game in this one.

gyldenlove · 10-25-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

I think you should watch Oher VS Doom...gonna be a big difference if doom can get a rush. you saw what happened when the QB had time.

If Gaither is ready to go then Dumervil will get a lot of him and some Oher, but I expect them to line up Ayers with Oher quite a bit since Ayers has done well against Oher in the past. If Gaither is out and Yanda is at RT then Dumervil will get him a lot, that could get ugly.

Bronx33 · 10-25-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

Didn't we beat em 12-10 in 2005? Or was that at Mile High?

mile high i was there..

Pony Boy · 10-25-2009, 08:26 PM

I bet McDaniel's has already watched every piece of film on Flacco since he came out of the womb.....

SJ Bronco · 10-25-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

If Gaither is ready to go then Dumervil will get a lot of him and some Oher, but I expect them to line up Ayers with Oher quite a bit since Ayers has done well against Oher in the past. If Gaither is out and Yanda is at RT then Dumervil will get him a lot, that could get ugly.

Gaither might be back...good call...but i think Oher is a damn good pass blocking LT. He could be trouble on Ayers, but Ayers had some success in college. Either way, that's the battle to watch. Could be the difference in the game.

DenverBound · 10-25-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

Gaither might be back...good call...but i think Oher is a damn good pass blocking LT. He could be trouble on Ayers, but Ayers had some success in college. Either way, that's the battle to watch. Could be the difference in the game.

Gaither
-------
Height: 6'9"
Weight: 330

VS

Doom? I can't wait to see this. I think doom is going to have a field day with this ogre.

SJ Bronco · 10-25-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy

I bet McDaniel's has already watched every piece of film on Flacco since he came out of the womb.....

you think Mcd actually waited till he was born...he probably scouted his mother after her first date with dear old dad

v2micca · 10-25-2009, 08:44 PM

On Defense, Ray Rice concerns me more than any other player. Flacco is going to make some frustrating Houdini like escapes and pick up some first downs. But, I have confidence that our secondary can bottle up there vertical attack, forcing them to settle for underneath routes. I see us employing a similar strategy to what we used with Brady by giving him the Wes Welker Routes while taking away Randy Moss for most of the game. However, if we can't consistently stop Ray Rice with our front seven, we may be in for a long day. This guy is the real deal and how we handle him can make or break us in this game.

Offensively, I like our chances. They are reeling right now from injuries. I see healthy dose of Moreno and Buckhalter having some success early on in the game and steamrolling from there. If they leave any of their corners in man coverage on Marshall, it will probably get ugly. They know this and will probably roll safeties over to his side of the field. They have been exploited across the middle of the field several times. I could see Shefler having another big game against them if they try to contain him with Linebackers.

Rabb · 10-25-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

If Gaither is ready to go then Dumervil will get a lot of him and some Oher, but I expect them to line up Ayers with Oher quite a bit since Ayers has done well against Oher in the past. If Gaither is out and Yanda is at RT then Dumervil will get him a lot, that could get ugly.

yep and word is Gaither will probably go, what a nice problem to have between those 2

Gaither is a monster, what a find...he makes Clady look small, .10 head though

Gort · 10-25-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronc

That was at mile high. But c'mon guys this is the Browns franchise, really, when you think about it. This is Art's team and we own Art.

he only owns a 1% share now. sold the rest in 2004. Bisciotti owns the Ravens now.

BroncoMan4ever · 10-25-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iDENVER

this will be the very first NFL game i attend so broncos will win

you do realize if we lose, you are banned from attending any future Broncos games as you will be classified as a jinx, and no one will want you to return.

jk....kind of.....have a good time though

BroncoMan4ever · 10-25-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

you think Mcd actually waited till he was born...he probably scouted his mother after her first date with dear old dad

i hear he uncovered Flacco's ultrasound video and found weaknesses he plans to exploit just from that.

Sassy · 10-25-2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipso

We still never won at that stadium.

and Brady had never lost an OT game...
...and San Diego...can't remember...but we took them out of a record, too

Sassy · 10-25-2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

you do realize if we lose, you are banned from attending any future Broncos games as you will be classified as a jinx, and no one will want you to return.

jk....kind of.....have a good time though

Nah...that would be Phillybroncosnut

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10-25-2009, 06:44 PM	#2
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	hows their oline blocking? their pass rush isnt what it used to be and their pass defense just straight sucks, so if we can get orton cruising like last 2 weeks, we win no questions.

10-25-2009, 07:01 PM	#3
iDENVER Seasoned Veteran -BroNcOs- Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: east coast Posts: 387 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	this will be the very first NFL game i attend so broncos will win

10-25-2009, 07:23 PM	#4
BlaK-Argentina Pampita says... ... support your team! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina. Posts: 5,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Can't wait. I want to see how sharp we look after the bye. McD should have the team extra prepared. Still think it'll be a tough game, I'm hoping for a convincing win to take the momentum all the way to Indy.

10-25-2009, 07:35 PM	#6
Rocket 7 Formerly known as Dipso Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 4,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Smith 70	We still never won at that stadium.

10-25-2009, 07:50 PM	#8
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,245 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Ray Ray will chew off one of Royal's feet and throw it to Ed Reed for a 100 yard return for a score, then eat Royal's other foot Ngata will sack Orton 65 or 66 times while running backwards Flacco will pass for as many yards as touchdowns, 350...in the first half infinity to -2 (we will actually give ourselves a safety) is my guess

10-25-2009, 08:03 PM	#11
SJ Bronco Ring of Famer Real Tree, No Seeds Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Jose Ca Posts: 9,798 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	I think you should watch Oher VS Doom...gonna be a big difference if doom can get a rush. you saw what happened when the QB had time.

10-25-2009, 08:16 PM	#12
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,014 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Their offensive line is good without impressing, the run blocking is pretty good, they have a lot of power, but against quickness they can be beaten. A quick breakdown reveals we match up well on the outside with our corners being better than their recievers so we should be able to man up 1 on 1 for long stretches so we can focus on taking away the ground game which is good and getting to Flacco. I think we see the same strategy we had against Gates and Witten and use a lot of pressure on the QB to keep the TE in short routes and blocking at the line rather than roaming down field. On defense they are good but not great. A weakness they have is if you can get an OL to Ray Lewis then Gooden isn't nearly as good against the run so you can leave the RB to deal with him. Suggs is still a threat on the outside we have to account for him in both passing and running situations. Their cornerbacks are small (very small) and not very good 1 on 1, so I think Marshall will see a lot of Ed Reed, this should open up a lot of passes to Gaffney, Royal and Stokley and any matchup of Scheffler and Gooden or Landry is almost an auto win for Scheffler. The way to win this one is going to be to keep the ball away from Ed Reed, keep Orton clean and use our speed up front to move the defense sideways, they don't do that as well and that will open lanes for Moreno and Buckhalter. We need to make sure we don't lose the field position battle because they are very opportunistic and with Rice they have a guy who is a threat anywhere on the field. He is very elusive and can catch the ball out of the backfield as well any RB. If we can keep their offense under control, and I think we can, then we have a pretty good matchup with our spread offense against their poor cornerbacks. I am looking for Gaffney to have a good game in this one.

10-25-2009, 08:26 PM	#15
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,279 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	I bet McDaniel's has already watched every piece of film on Flacco since he came out of the womb.....

10-25-2009, 08:44 PM	#19
v2micca Pro Bowler Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 680	On Defense, Ray Rice concerns me more than any other player. Flacco is going to make some frustrating Houdini like escapes and pick up some first downs. But, I have confidence that our secondary can bottle up there vertical attack, forcing them to settle for underneath routes. I see us employing a similar strategy to what we used with Brady by giving him the Wes Welker Routes while taking away Randy Moss for most of the game. However, if we can't consistently stop Ray Rice with our front seven, we may be in for a long day. This guy is the real deal and how we handle him can make or break us in this game. Offensively, I like our chances. They are reeling right now from injuries. I see healthy dose of Moreno and Buckhalter having some success early on in the game and steamrolling from there. If they leave any of their corners in man coverage on Marshall, it will probably get ugly. They know this and will probably roll safeties over to his side of the field. They have been exploited across the middle of the field several times. I could see Shefler having another big game against them if they try to contain him with Linebackers.