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Old 10-20-2009, 09:38 AM   #1
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:40 AM   #2
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Does anyone know how Shanny lost his mojo?
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
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Larry Coyer's Colts.

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Unfortunately for them, the season is 16 games long.
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Larry Coyer's Colts.

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I'm sure it's a lot easier to play defense when your QB can **** 300 yards before the 1st snap
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:47 AM   #5
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Coyer was one of our better DC that we had under Shanny. He tossed them out like old clothes trying to get someone to be the culprit. I remember when we started 3 and 0 a few years back (AFC Championship year?) and players seemed to enjoy his game plan and enthusiasm especially for a "59 year old white guy." I think he is part of the reason they are 2nd in scoring defense.
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:48 AM   #6
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they've only played 5 games...
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The thing that bugged me about Coyer is the thing we love about Nolan - halftime adjustments. Coyer never adjusted at the half. If his original gameplan was working, great; if not, he'd die with it.
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The thing that bugged me about Coyer is the thing we love about Nolan - halftime adjustments. Coyer never adjusted at the half. If his original gameplan was working, great; if not, he'd die with it.
second half of games and of seasons. the colts will be destroyed the last few weeks when a)they play a good team and b)when teams get a hold of coyers film.
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I'm seeing a lot of the same things that have been said about our team.
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I'm seeing a lot of the same things that have been said about our team.
when we had Coyer? or now?
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:58 AM   #11
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Now. "They will fold." "Let's see them play a full season and then we'll know." "They need to play a good team."

Short memories on the mane.
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I keep reading about half time adjustment but what I see is they are adjusting with ever change of possession not just at the half.
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I'm seeing a lot of the same things that have been said about our team.
Larry coyer is a hell of a D coordinator. I'm not taking anything away from them.

But at this point they haven't even played a team with a winning record.

Having said that I'm still scared of paying Peyton.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:02 AM   #14
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they've only played 5 games...
It's points per game.
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Larry Coyer was not responsible for the collapse. Injuries and an offense that couldn't stay on the field for more than two minutes at a time brought that D down. He'll do great with the Colts and I'm happy for him.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:03 AM   #16
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I'll be the first to admit that I didn't like him when he was here, but looking back, you almost have to say he was the best d-coordinator Shanahan had (maybe Robinson for a couple years).

Unfairly ousted because the team wasn't good enough to avoid having to go to that dome and play the Colts when they were an offensive machine. How ironic that Coyer is now the d-coordinator of the Colts. Doncha think?
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I'm seeing a lot of the same things that have been said about our team.
With Coyer, it's been proven though.

I think it was Stokley himself when he was with the Colts that said it. After the Colts basically let us beat them at home the last game of '04 to clinch a playoff spot and play them the following week in Indy, we got crushed and Stokley commented that he and the Colts couldn't believe how Coyer threw the same exact defense as the week before. They put up 35 on us by halftime.

I also point to the playoff game with the Steelers as another example.
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Now. "They will fold." "Let's see them play a full season and then we'll know." "They need to play a good team."

Short memories on the mane.
I have never been one of those types of people. I usually look at patterns before I say anything.

also, I never got down on the broncs. I picked us to go 9-7 and loved the trade and mcd....

with that said.

Coyer never did adjust. I liked him, but he never did. He uses his dline to hold up the oline from getting to the lb's. It's a good strategy, and is very lb friendly, but eventually, d linemen need to generate pressure. When your first read is to hold up rather than beat, it will only be a matter of time before a qb can sit back and pick them apart.
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With Coyer, it's been proven though.

I think it was Stokley himself when he was with the Colts that said it. After the Colts basically let us beat them at home the last game of '04 to clinch a playoff spot and play them the following week in Indy, we got crushed and Stokley commented that he and the Colts couldn't believe how Coyer threw the same exact defense as the week before. They put up 35 on us by halftime.

I also point to the playoff game with the Steelers as another example.
exactly.

the Coyer love here is more a statement of how bad the other dcoords were rather than a statement about him.

now we have a real dcoord, and it is really really nice to watch.
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The thing that bugged me about Coyer is the thing we love about Nolan - halftime adjustments. Coyer never adjusted at the half. If his original gameplan was working, great; if not, he'd die with it.
Exactly......I remember we just wouldn't change anything up in the 2nd half under Coyer.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:37 AM   #21
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I'm keeping an eye on them all season, Coyer sure does a good job. And it defiantly helps when both your defense and the other team offense know thay have to score ~25 point to win the game.

They had one great Defensive game (Cardinals) and one horrible (Dolphins) other 3 games are in between.
They are built right for the team, with no names or stars behind the lines, but good to very good pass-rusher that benefit from playing with the lead.





Kaylore, Did you noticed who is 29th (27th yardage) in scoring defense?


None other than the guy who succeeded (/failed) Coyer and his Buccaneers. Bates defense is just horrible, last two weeks was a little better (Vs Redskins / Panthers) but it does not look good.
I think they lead the league giving up big-plays of over 40 and 20.

Living in the area, I keep hearing the local experts claiming he is a great coach but the personal doesn't fit his scheme (Now, where did I hear that before?) But you wouldn't expect Tampa that had a top 10 defense in like forever to play so poorly.



I looks more and more as if that 2006-2007 fire/hire of the D-cord' was a big mistake.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:51 AM   #22
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I'll take the 3-4 over the 4-3 any day. Hated the 4-3 for year... even with the Super Bowl wins.

I'm so happy to be a 3-4 team again.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:03 AM   #23
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Unfortunately for them, the season is 16 games long.
With the Rams, 49ers and the rest of their memory foam soft schedule they will end up in the top 5, no problem at all.

The Colts have only played 1 winning team so far (Arizona) and will over the remaining 11 games only play 2 teams who currently hold a winning record, the Patriots and Broncos. The last time anyone had anything as soft was when TheRev stage dived into a Broncos cheerleader pillowfight.
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Meanwhile, Jeremy Bates' USC Trojans are cranking up almost 500 yards offense per game.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:20 AM   #25
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Meanwhile, Jeremy Bates' USC Trojans are cranking up almost 500 yards offense per game.
So Fck'n what!

A It's College Football

B This thread is about defense

C This team is 6-0 with McDaniels running the show! It's over Buff, Shanny is gone, the past it's the past...
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