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Old 10-19-2009, 11:11 PM   #1
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Default McDaniels had some balls to trade Cutler for Orton. The man knows football

I mean, you couldn't find ONE GUY ON THE ENTIRE PLANET that endorsed this deal when it happened. Not one. Dude got torched in the media and by the fanbase for the trade.

But what did he know? He HAD to know something. He had to know that no matter how much he tried, Cutler would never be his QB. But to have the balls to trade Cutler for Orton? Wow.

The man who stood alone in the face of massive criticism now looks brilliant.

But its not by chance is it? No, its not. Plain and simple, Mcdaniels knows football and he knows personel.

Thank God this man is on our side. And he is only 33!

We good!
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:13 PM   #2
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I loved his comment at his post game presser. Do you think Orton was this good in Chicago or did it happen here?

"Honestly, I dont know, and I dont care."

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:15 PM   #3
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Point of clarification: Bowlen traded Cutler. McDaniels made the trade for Orton.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:15 PM   #4
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I loved his comment at his post game presser. Do you think Orton was this good in Chicago or did it happen here?

"Honestly, I dont know, and I dont care."

lol +1 Great commment
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:29 PM   #5
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Very nice thread, and I whole-heartedly agree.

My best buddies over here are Steelers fans, and now they're giving me grief for losing faith over the offseason. Just goes to show you -- support your team, no matter what.

Oh -- and Josh McDaniels is the bomb!
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:31 PM   #6
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Not to mention we also got two first round picks and a 3rd rounder AND Orton. Who do you think got the better end of this deal now?
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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Point of clarification: Bowlen traded Cutler. McDaniels made the trade for Orton.
Right... and that's Orton, plus Ayers and A. Smith.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:37 PM   #8
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Give kudos to Mr. Pat Bowlen for making the changes . Im sure it wasnt easy for him letting go of Shanahan. Then to screen through all candidates and choose McD., well he was spot on with his decisions. Thank You Mr. Bowlen.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:39 PM   #9
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Right... and that's Orton, plus Ayers and A. Smith.
technically

A.Smith was had with our own pick but in the deal we got a 1st round pick next year somewhere in the 10-20 because we know minny got that division on lock.

speaking of Ayers he had a fine game getting some good pressure at times.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:42 PM   #10
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Point of clarification: Bowlen traded Cutler. McDaniels made the trade for Orton.
Further point of clarification, the Broncos did not trade Cutler for Orton. I think we got some draft picks, too.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:03 AM   #11
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I have to admit I was thoroughly pissed with the entire offseason. Now, I'm presently surprised.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:21 AM   #12
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I wish we had not given up the 5th that they used on Johnny Knox.

THAT would have really screwed them.

It seemed at that time that the trade was just the 2 1st round picks, and Orton was just a throw in serviceable QB.

Boy, how that tunred out so far.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:30 AM   #13
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Point of clarification: Bowlen traded Cutler. McDaniels made the trade for Orton.
Always kinda felt that was a little bit of a case of Bowlen taking the bullet to protect his young HC.

We'll never know though, I guess.

To me the trade is

Cutler for Orton, Smith and Moreno.

I don't think we can take a RB at #12 with no additional first rounder, and I don't think we trade a future 1st for a 2nd without an extra one next year either.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:30 AM   #14
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Very nice thread, and I whole-heartedly agree.

My best buddies over here are Steelers fans, and now they're giving me grief for losing faith over the offseason. Just goes to show you -- support your team, no matter what.

Oh -- and Josh McDaniels is the bomb!
dont think people will ever do that. some people love the drama too much.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:37 AM   #15
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I mean, you couldn't find ONE GUY ON THE ENTIRE PLANET that endorsed this deal when it happened. Not one. Dude got torched in the media and by the fanbase for the trade.
Just an FYI, there were a few fans on the board here that were glad to see the crybaby go. There are a few smart people on this board who didn't want a "me first" guy under center.

But I know where you're coming from. Most people either couldn't get past Shanny being gone or Cutler's rifle arm. But there are a few people here who understand the NFL.

Best off-season ever.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:02 AM   #16
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I cannot imagine what must be going through Shanahan's mind right now-
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:09 AM   #17
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I think it's time for all those who trashed Orton and McDaniels to acknowledge that perhaps they are pretty damn good at doing their jobs......they won't of course, all they'll do is continue to say it was luck, or the defense, or whatever else they've spewed the entire year.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:13 AM   #18
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I mean, you couldn't find ONE GUY ON THE ENTIRE PLANET that endorsed this deal when it happened. Not one. Dude got torched in the media and by the fanbase for the trade.

But what did he know? He HAD to know something. He had to know that no matter how much he tried, Cutler would never be his QB. But to have the balls to trade Cutler for Orton? Wow.

The man who stood alone in the face of massive criticism now looks brilliant.

But its not by chance is it? No, its not. Plain and simple, Mcdaniels knows football and he knows personel.

Thank God this man is on our side. And he is only 33!

We good!
That is not true give credit where credit is due. by the time we traded Cutler I was very happy with the trade and I was not the only one. Several fans here were all for this trade and caught hell for it
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:20 AM   #19
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Not to mention we also got two first round picks and a 3rd rounder AND Orton. Who do you think got the better end of this deal now?
We traded the picks up, too.

So essentially, for Cutler and a 5th we got Orton, Ayers/Moreno (since we probably would have taken Ayers at 12, I'd say Moreno is more like it), Alphonso Smith (the trade went down because we had two firsts next year), and Richard Quinn - the verdict is still out on Quinn.

BUT

Orton, Moreno, Smith and Quinn > Cutler

For a pouty, risk-taking, franchise quarterback, we got:

1. A safe, verbal leader of a franchise quarterback (yes, I am now calling Orton a franchise QB). 26 years old.

2a. A potential franchise running back who has shown some flashes of brilliance and always seems to fall forward, who can also catch and block. 22 years old.

2b. A defensive end/linebacker who some literally called the player in the draft with the most potential. 22 years old.

3. A playmaking cornerback who has been looking stellar for a rookie. 22 years old.

4. A blocking tight end with some potential. Looks to take over for the agin Graham. 22 years old.

With the exception of Orton, they're all under contract for at least 4 years.

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Old 10-20-2009, 06:20 AM   #20
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Not to mention we also got two first round picks and a 3rd rounder AND Orton. Who do you think got the better end of this deal now?
Easy there still is alot of football to be played
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:24 AM   #21
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Anything that happened this offseason was b/c the genius McD KNEW it would turn out a certain way. There were no calculated gambles. Everything was done knowing the absolute truth.

Gotchya...
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:29 AM   #22
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How do you think Seattle feels about taking our first instead of Chicago's?

How do you think Jay Cutler feels wondering what could have been if he stayed on this team?
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:29 AM   #23
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I mean, you couldn't find ONE GUY ON THE ENTIRE PLANET that endorsed this deal when it happened. Not one. Dude got torched in the media and by the fanbase for the trade.

But what did he know? He HAD to know something. He had to know that no matter how much he tried, Cutler would never be his QB. But to have the balls to trade Cutler for Orton? Wow.

The man who stood alone in the face of massive criticism now looks brilliant.

But its not by chance is it? No, its not. Plain and simple, Mcdaniels knows football and he knows personel.

Thank God this man is on our side. And he is only 33!

We good!

BS, there were quite a few of us who ENDORSED IT (we were called stupid, ignorant, clueless.....etc,etc...)
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BS, there were quite a few of us who ENDORSED IT (we were called stupid, ignorant, clueless.....etc,etc...)
Thank you for clarifying this, Leo. We get no respect, do we?
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:34 AM   #25
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It's nice to have a QB that's not Philip Rivers' b****.
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