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Old 10-16-2009, 06:37 PM   #1
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# Filed to ESPN: Tampa Bay traded defensive end Gaines Adams to the Chicago Bears for a 2010 draft pick thought to be a second-round pick.about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

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Old 10-16-2009, 06:42 PM   #2
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stupid lol why would they do this when they need WRs

now they have 3 or 4 quality DEs, I guess they wanna be like the Giants.

so their first pick is going to be in the third round I guess.
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hahahahaha, the Bears just keep sending picks away, and for what? For a lineman that's never done anything, and a quarterback with a .500 record.

The shine will be off that apple soon.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:48 PM   #4
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Wow. That's an odd move.
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oh interesting

Havent heard much from Adams since he got drafted, but he was good in college and is still young

Are the Bears turning into the Redskins?
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:00 PM   #7
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stupid lol why would they do this when they need WRs

now they have 3 or 4 quality DEs, I guess they wanna be like the Giants.

so their first pick is going to be in the third round I guess.
Johnny Knoxville has been the HIXON of the year for the Bears.

Now that they have a Rook who stepped up as their #1 threat and even returns kicks for TD's they can see that Hester is just a ST'er past his prime who can maybe line up as a 4th or 5th WR in a spread formation.

Their other WR's have made some big catches and Olsen is essenitally their #3 WR.

The assumption that they are desperate for WR's is invalid.

With Urlicker out their D, which was suspect before, is their weak link right now. This D reminds me of the Broncos D in mid 2006 as they slowly faded into crap.

If this guy does anything for them that Darrel Reid did for us it was a good move for them.
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[QUOTE=broncosteven;2602137]Johnny Knoxville has been the HIXON of the year for the Bears.

u mean johnny knox?
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:14 PM   #9
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[QUOTE=iDENVER;2602143]
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Johnny Knoxville has been the HIXON of the year for the Bears.

u mean johnny knox?
You are correcting him with a ****ed up quote. Get your **** together buddy. We all know what he means.
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If this guy does anything for them that Darrel Reid did for us it was a good move for them.
For a second round pick though?
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:24 PM   #11
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Wow I surprised Jay signed off on this move.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:25 PM   #12
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Hmmmm... Didn't see that one coming.
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Johnny Knoxville has been the HIXON of the year for the Bears.

u mean johnny knox?
Yep I was trying to be funny, hence the HIXON reference.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:35 PM   #14
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Gaines Adams was supposed to be the surest thing at DE you get when he was drafted. I'm curious how he'll do.

What's sad is this shows a lot of these teams are basically having a fire sale for their players.
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Gaines Adams was supposed to be the surest thing at DE you get when he was drafted. I'm curious how he'll do.

What's sad is this shows a lot of these teams are basically having a fire sale for their players.
Strange... when did the NFL become baseball?

I wonder how much this has to do with the CBA and it's uncertainty?
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Strange... when did the NFL become baseball?

I wonder how much this has to do with the CBA and it's uncertainty?
Only indirectly. Because of the CBA owners have started to create a war chest. Just look at the amount of available cap space league wide starting just before the last CBA was signed. Now that owners have created that cap space for all teams it opens up all kinds of trading opportunities that were not accessible 5 years ago.
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Only indirectly. Because of the CBA owners have started to create a war chest. Just look at the amount of available cap space league wide starting just before the last CBA was signed. Now that owners have created that cap space for all teams it opens up all kinds of trading opportunities that were not accessible 5 years ago.
Good point...
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:53 PM   #18
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Strange... when did the NFL become baseball?

I wonder how much this has to do with the CBA and it's uncertainty?
A lot.

More teams than ever before are under the cap. The primary restrictor on trade is that most teams spent pretty near up to the cap and the financial costs of a trade in the NFL (eating bonus money of the player traded and signing a replacement, or receiving a new well paid player and having to cut a guy you might own guaranteed money to) was always the big obstacle.

The lack of a new CBA had a lot of teams playing it financially closer to the vest. The tough economic times only amplified that. Now that we're working out of a recession a lot of GMs have the cap budget to wheel and deal.

Seems like a bad move for Chicago to me. A 2nd and little else probably gets you Braylon Edwards last week. Now its Gaines Adams (pass rusher with only ok production to this point, not aquantifiable upgrade over Anderson).

I guess though, they seem to be running an "all in" strategy this year despite the loss of Urlacher. Probably because they know it'll be tough making the playoffs when they've already lost to the Packers once and the Vikings are looking dominant.

Quick question though. Why are so many people thinking Johnny Knox is some stud WR now? He's looked pretty good as a returner in place of Hester, but everyone knows that is largely because they've just got a really well coached return unit. As a WR he's had one big play against the Packers and some less than impressive overall production when you consider the secondaries they've been facing.

Might not seem so promising when he has to face legit secondaries.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:05 PM   #19
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A 2nd rounder? Wow, this move reeks of desperation. For Gaines Adams? I know he was the 5th pick in the draft and all, but he hasn't done jack **** since being in the league.

The bears must really think they have to make a move to gain on the Vikings. Funny though, as was pointed out above, they could have easily had Edwards for that pick. Mark Anderson has been much better than Adams to this point as well.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:36 PM   #20
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Stats for Dlinemen can be misleading, but let's look at the facts:

Rookie Year: 38 Tackles, 6 Sacks (28th among DEs), 2 Forced Fumbles, 2 Passes Deflected
2nd Year: 38 Tackles, 6.5 Sacks (17th among DE's), 1 Int, 1TD, 6 Passes Deflected
This Year: 10 Tackles, 1 Sack, 2 Passes Deflected

Also, it looks like he's never missed a game due to injury.

Since the Bears use the Tampa 2, it should be a relatively smooth transition. I'm sure that played a part in their decision to make the trade. They basically traded a third round pick for a top 5 talent who has established himself as being, at the very least, an average pass rusher with NFL seasoning. In terms of value, I think it was a great trade. Did they need a DE? I would think linebacker might be more important, or the obvious: Wide Reciever.

This makes me wonder about Morris, though. Was this:

A. A fire sale move

B. A move made because Morris didn't like something about Gaines' character/work ethic. Or,

C. Just plain stupid.

Time will tell.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:54 PM   #21
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They basically traded a third round pick
WTF? Basically a third round pick? So I guess 1st round picks are now basically 2nd round picks.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:02 PM   #22
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So if Gaines Adams is worth a 2nd round pick, does that make Vernon Gholston worth a 10th?
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WTF? Basically a third round pick? So I guess 1st round picks are now basically 2nd round picks.
2 things:

1. There are conflicted reports, at least that is my understanding. Some are saying 2nd rounder, some are saying 3rd. I would assume a 3rd.

2. When I say basically I am not describing the pick, I am describing what they are trading for. However, the word basically there is pretty redundant.

Just wanted to clear that up.
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2 things:

1. There are conflicted reports, at least that is my understanding. Some are saying 2nd rounder, some are saying 3rd. I would assume a 3rd.

2. When I say basically I am not describing the pick, I am describing what they are trading for. However, the word basically there is pretty redundant.

Just wanted to clear that up.
Unless of course the Bears do extremely well. Then a 2nd round pick might as well be a 3rd rounder if it is in the 28 to 32 range.
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Unless of course the Bears do extremely well. Then a 2nd round pick might as well be a 3rd rounder if it is in the 28 to 32 range.
That's a good point. You should post more often.
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