High praise for Orton & Broncos D - The Orange Mane

Old Dude · 10-13-2009, 10:05 AM

From Cold Hard Football Facts:

On Orton:

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Horseshoe.html

Denver's D still #1 on defensive hog index:

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Hog_Index.html

Denver is the only team in the league with three wins vs. opponents with winning records.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html

Old Dude · 10-13-2009, 10:08 AM

They are also gloating over their prediction about an overhyped Jets D:

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...ns_Monday.html

Paladin · 10-13-2009, 10:08 AM

Sure sounds like a winner to me........

Also a lot of good information. Thanks for posting........

DenverBrit · 10-13-2009, 10:16 AM

The D, ranked higher than the Ravens? Who could have known?

Cito Pelon · 10-13-2009, 10:18 AM

Denver is the only team in the league with three wins vs. opponents with winning records.

Wow. They're pretty good, eh? Naturally, they have to keep the solid work going. 5 wins is still only 5 wins.

BlaK-Argentina · 10-13-2009, 10:25 AM

So the Broncos are clearly shaping up as the class of the NFL, with wins over the 4-1 Bengals, 3-2 Patriots and 3-2 Cowboys. Those are three teams who are a combined 0-3 against Denver, but 10-2 against the rest of the league.

ludo21 · 10-13-2009, 10:44 AM

Indy is the only team in the league that has not played a Quality Team... wow, did not know that.

gyldenlove · 10-13-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Indy is the only team in the league that has not played a Quality Team... wow, did not know that.

How about Washington? Washington has yet to play a team that has won a single game before playing Washinton.

2KBack · 10-13-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

How about Washington? Washington has yet to play a team that has won a single game before playing Washinton.

they played the giants in week one

Old Dude · 10-13-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

How about Washington? Washington has yet to play a team that has won a single game before playing Washinton.

They update the records each week, so it makes no difference what the teams record was when they played. It's what the team turned out to be at present. The Redskins played the Giants in week one (and lost).

baja · 10-13-2009, 11:13 AM

Alec has been posting these links every week and they are great

Thanks Alec and thanks Old One. You both rock.

Old Dude · 10-13-2009, 11:17 AM

It will be interesting to see how the other "quality stats" look after they are updated this week.

The Chargers are currently favored to win Monday's game by 3 or 4 points. CHFF wil probably disagree, since the Chargers (before this week) rank 28th on the defensive hog index, 15th on the passer differential chart, 24th on the "bendability" chart, etc. Their overall ranking (before this past weekend) was 18th and that's mostly because of Rivers.

BroncoMan4ever · 10-13-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

Denver is the only team in the league with three wins vs. opponents with winning records.

Wow. They're pretty good, eh? Naturally, they have to keep the solid work going. 5 wins is still only 5 wins.

and the sad thing is everyone still says we are recipients of a weak schedule.

lex · 10-13-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina

So the Broncos are clearly shaping up as the class of the NFL, with wins over the 4-1 Bengals, 3-2 Patriots and 3-2 Cowboys. Those are three teams who are a combined 0-3 against Denver, but 10-2 against the rest of the league.

Wow. Impressive.

lex · 10-13-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludo21

Indy is the only team in the league that has not played a Quality Team... wow, did not know that.

But the Dolphins and Titans won their divisions last year. Meanwhile, Cincy sucked last year.

baja · 10-13-2009, 11:23 AM

I love this one

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html

Take a look at san Diego - 0 & 2 against quality teams and giving up 34.5 points in the process.

HAT · 10-13-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

How about Washington? Washington has yet to play a team that has won a single game before playing Washinton.

And on the other side of that....NE has yet to play a team that has lost a single game prior to kick-off.

Buff 0-0
NYJ 1-0
ATL 2-0
Bal 3-0
Den 4-0

Weird scheduling quirk for both. Although Washington's streak stays in tact through week 6 (KC) and NE's doesn't (Tenn)

Drek · 10-13-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina

So the Broncos are clearly shaping up as the class of the NFL, with wins over the 4-1 Bengals, 3-2 Patriots and 3-2 Cowboys. Those are three teams who are a combined 0-3 against Denver, but 10-2 against the rest of the league.

The '2' in that 10-2 line are the Jets and Giants, also quality teams themselves, FYI.

Doggcow · 10-13-2009, 11:55 AM

Only team 3 wins verses opponents with winning records, god, we've had such a weak schedule compared to the likes of Indy and NYG!

barryr · 10-13-2009, 11:58 AM

The tough stretch for the Broncos is coming up. If they can survive it, like say a .500 record at least, they will make the playoffs of course and probably go on to win the division.

Broncos4tw · 10-13-2009, 12:03 PM

I dunno what it is about Orton. I call it the Orton Factor. He isn't flashy, he can't scramble his way out of a wet paper bag, he doesn't have the zippiest fast, nor the deepest throw, but somehow, he keeps his passing rating high, he doesn't make mistakes (or they are flubbed repeatedly by defenses), and he keeps winning games.

I am not sure what it is, but I ain't gonna argue against it. Just keep doing it. He isn't Plummer or Griese or like anyone we have had. He isn't really like a Dilfer either. I have no idea what it is... but our team has the Orton Factor, and I'll not question it... just continue to love it.

Greatspirits · 10-13-2009, 12:03 PM

The defensive Hog Index stat is the most impressive to me. Go Bronx!!

Crushaholic · 10-13-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryr

The tough stretch for the Broncos is coming up. If they can survive it, like say a .500 record at least, they will make the playoffs of course and probably go on to win the division.

In my opinion, we are halfway through the tough stretch. I was looking at Dallas, New England, San Diego and Baltimore as the teams who could put a crimp in our plans for the playoffs. So far, we have survived two of the four tests...

barryr · 10-13-2009, 12:18 PM

The next 8 games, they still have at the Chargers and Ravens, the Steelers at home, and the Giants at home and the Colts on the road. And have the Chargers again at home. Mixed in are games at the Skins and Chiefs and though they aren't very good, those games are away and won't be cakewalks either.

Rock Chalk · 10-13-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryr

The tough stretch for the Broncos is coming up. If they can survive it, like say a .500 record at least, they will make the playoffs of course and probably go on to win the division.

Well we got SD who cant defend the run and cant run.
We got Baltimore who no longer looks all that great and after our game could be on a 4 game losing streak (NE, Cincy, Minnesota, Denver).
Then we get Pittsburgh at home who is looking better now that Mendenhall can run the ball, but their defense is still highly suspect.
Then we get to go to Washington.
Then we get SD at home.
Then we get the Giants at home and while the Giants are playing great, they are not overly spectacular either.
Off to KC for an easy win.
Then off to Indy, ugh.
Back home against the Raiders
Off to Philly, ugh again.
Then finish it off by polishing off KC.

14-2 is doable

****ing im getting even more optimistic these days.

10-13-2009, 10:08 AM	#3
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Sure sounds like a winner to me........ Also a lot of good information. Thanks for posting........ Last edited by Paladin; 10-13-2009 at 10:23 AM..

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10-13-2009, 10:05 AM	#1
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,154	High praise for Orton & Broncos D From Cold Hard Football Facts: On Orton: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Horseshoe.html Denver's D still #1 on defensive hog index: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Hog_Index.html Denver is the only team in the league with three wins vs. opponents with winning records. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html

10-13-2009, 10:16 AM	#4
DenverBrit Just hanging out. Got a breath mint?? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 11,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Team	The D, ranked higher than the Ravens? Who could have known?

10-13-2009, 10:18 AM	#5
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,194 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Denver is the only team in the league with three wins vs. opponents with winning records. Wow. They're pretty good, eh? Naturally, they have to keep the solid work going. 5 wins is still only 5 wins.

10-13-2009, 10:25 AM	#6
BlaK-Argentina Pampita says... ... support your team! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina. Posts: 5,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	So the Broncos are clearly shaping up as the class of the NFL, with wins over the 4-1 Bengals, 3-2 Patriots and 3-2 Cowboys. Those are three teams who are a combined 0-3 against Denver, but 10-2 against the rest of the league.

10-13-2009, 10:44 AM	#7
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Indy is the only team in the league that has not played a Quality Team... wow, did not know that.

10-13-2009, 11:13 AM	#11
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Alec has been posting these links every week and they are great Thanks Alec and thanks Old One. You both rock.

10-13-2009, 11:17 AM	#12
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,154	It will be interesting to see how the other "quality stats" look after they are updated this week. The Chargers are currently favored to win Monday's game by 3 or 4 points. CHFF wil probably disagree, since the Chargers (before this week) rank 28th on the defensive hog index, 15th on the passer differential chart, 24th on the "bendability" chart, etc. Their overall ranking (before this past weekend) was 18th and that's mostly because of Rivers.

10-13-2009, 11:23 AM	#16
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I love this one http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html Take a look at san Diego - 0 & 2 against quality teams and giving up 34.5 points in the process.

10-13-2009, 11:55 AM	#19
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,303 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Only team 3 wins verses opponents with winning records, god, we've had such a weak schedule compared to the likes of Indy and NYG!

10-13-2009, 11:58 AM	#20
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,267 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The tough stretch for the Broncos is coming up. If they can survive it, like say a .500 record at least, they will make the playoffs of course and probably go on to win the division.

10-13-2009, 12:03 PM	#21
Broncos4tw Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,458	I dunno what it is about Orton. I call it the Orton Factor. He isn't flashy, he can't scramble his way out of a wet paper bag, he doesn't have the zippiest fast, nor the deepest throw, but somehow, he keeps his passing rating high, he doesn't make mistakes (or they are flubbed repeatedly by defenses), and he keeps winning games. I am not sure what it is, but I ain't gonna argue against it. Just keep doing it. He isn't Plummer or Griese or like anyone we have had. He isn't really like a Dilfer either. I have no idea what it is... but our team has the Orton Factor, and I'll not question it... just continue to love it.

10-13-2009, 12:03 PM	#22
Greatspirits Pro Bowler Bridge of Sighs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Park Hill Posts: 596 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steven Johnson	The defensive Hog Index stat is the most impressive to me. Go Bronx!!

10-13-2009, 12:18 PM	#24
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,267 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The next 8 games, they still have at the Chargers and Ravens, the Steelers at home, and the Giants at home and the Colts on the road. And have the Chargers again at home. Mixed in are games at the Skins and Chiefs and though they aren't very good, those games are away and won't be cakewalks either.