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Old 10-12-2009, 09:14 AM   #1
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AP - NFL referees are investigating the 4th quarter game film of Sunday's matchup between the Broncos and Patriots. Within Denver driving inside the red zone, Kyle Orton's pass sailed by the outstretched arms of Bronco receiver, Eddie Royal. Seconds later, Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather got up and lingered over Royal celebrating the well defended play....but, also catching the eye of the sideline judge who quickly threw a flag on Merriweather for 'taunting' the opposing receiver. The play is controversial

NFL Head Investigative Official, Treyshon Sweettarts released a statement Monday morning, "The film shows the sideline judge pulling a flag out and throwing the flag before the incident occurred...so, we are investigating this incident. There were 2 flags on the field at the time and the film shows only one referee pulling a flag - we have no idea where the 2nd flag came from. We are still investigating the play."

On the ensuing play, Orton hit Marshall for an 11 yard TD reception tying the game at 17. Denver would go on to win the game in overtime.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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And so it begins....

Just call it karma for Brady's bullshat last week and call it good.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:18 AM   #3
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Pay back for the phantom call on the punt that extended the Pats drive...
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This has to be a joke.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:20 AM   #5
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I saw that as I was watching the game. My eventual assessment was that the referee originally threw the flag for interference. The interference penalty was a not going to stick (I think someone tipped it making PI invalid) but since he had thrown the flag already he simply changed it to taunting.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:21 AM   #6
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and so it begins....

Just call it karma for brady's bullshat last week and call it good.
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Phantom call? Dude, I think the rule is bullsh*t, especially when even incidental contact gets you a flag, but there was nothing phantom about it. He ran right into the Punter's leg.
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Maybe the videotaped official meant to call pass interference, which would have been the wrong call because it was tipped, and the taunting was called by the other official. One things for sure we know there's no conspiracy or bias that would go against the Pats.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:23 AM   #9
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Phantom call? Dude, I think the rule is bullsh*t, especially when even incidental contact gets you a flag, but there was nothing phantom about it. He ran right into the Punter's leg.
There was contact when the Bronocs punted, slight contact but contact nontheless, yet no flag... why?

Phantom call my friend, just deal with it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:26 AM   #10
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I saw the flag come out WAY before the Pats player allegedly "taunted" Royal, but I could have sworn he said "YEAH, b****!" as he did the flex over Eddie ... I could be wrong though.
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There was contact when the Bronocs punted, slight contact but contact nontheless, yet no flag... why?

Phantom call my friend, just deal with it.
It's funny, isn't it? Brady gets the call because Suggs almost tagged him, yet Kern has to do ballet to get out of the way and nothing is called.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:29 AM   #12
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I saw that as I was watching the game. My eventual assessment was that the referee originally threw the flag for interference. The interference penalty was a not going to stick (I think someone tipped it making PI invalid) but since he had thrown the flag already he simply changed it to taunting.
I was thinking the same thing. Or the other flag was for PI that eventually got picked up for a tip or not
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:31 AM   #13
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Hint: This photo is key piece in the investigation....to the 2nd flag appearing on the field....And Treyshon Sweettarts?...damn!
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:32 AM   #14
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There is no way this article is legit, c'mon guys. It says the head investigators name is Treyshon Sweettarts...
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That's a funny article.
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The first flag was definitely defensive PI, but when the ball was tipped that became an uncatchable ball and the PI was not valid, the second flag looked like it came from the back judge who was not in shot at the time and was the taunting call.

There is no doubt that Meriweather made a gesture at Royal after he got up and yelled something, the side judge was right there and can probably repeat what Meriweather said.
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That picture is begging to be photoshopped...

Someone needs to put a wad of cash in Marshalls left hand.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:37 AM   #18
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They will definitely be looking at this from what I read - and clearly the flag came before the taunt. I agree with brncs_fan that he threw the flag for something else (I inititally thought it might be a late hit?) but then realized that was a bad call, but then Meriweather did taunt him, but he had already thrown the flag.

No matter what, the taunting was a legit call from all appearances, and it's pretty safe to say the Pats have had their share of friendly calls.
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I thought I saw the defender led with his helmet

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That picture is begging to be photoshopped...

Someone needs to put a wad of cash in Marshalls left hand.
You meen besides the flag that has been inserted into picture?
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #21
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That picture is begging to be photoshopped...

Someone needs to put a wad of cash in Marshalls left hand.
The irony of this statement has me

I even left some yellow photoshop fragments on the pants of the referee...here is the real photo:
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You meen besides the flag that has been inserted into picture?
Still like the money better...
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Joking aside, I thought the flag was going to be for a personal foul. Meriweather hit Royal helmet-to-helmet in the back of the head while not trying to make a play on the ball. Not sure if the tipped ball eliminates the "defenseless receiver" rule. But it was clearly an unnecessary spear to the head.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:43 AM   #24
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Did no one actually listen to Simms in the booth?

He said in summary: There were two flags from two different refs thrown at two different times, the first was from the first ref who was there at the spot of Royal and Merriweather. The one at the spot clearly was pulling his flag before the taunting, either believing it was PI or a late hit out of bounds. Either way it did not matter as the second flag came after the taunting from another ref. They simply did not call PI or late hit as those two things probably didn't occur, but the taunting sure did and another ref caught it and flagged it.

Simple, the wrong foul was ignored and the right foul was called by another ref who was not in the camera shot.
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Did no one actually listen to Simms in the booth?

He said in summary: There were two flags from two different refs thrown at two different times, the first was from the first ref who was there at the spot of Royal and Merriweather. The one at the spot clearly was pulling his flag before the taunting, either believing it was PI or a late hit out of bounds. Either way it did not matter as the second flag came after the taunting from another ref. They simply did not call PI or late hit as those two things probably didn't occur, but the taunting sure did and another ref caught it and flagged it.

Simple, the wrong foul was ignored and the right foul was called by another ref who was not in the camera shot.
Exactly - two flags, no controversy.
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