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Old 10-09-2009, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default 30+ Reasons Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize

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3/18/8 – Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations



7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin



11/6/8 – Obama’s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.



12/1/8 – Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.



1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace



1/22/9 – Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay



1/22/9 – Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies



1/22/9 – Prohibited use of torture



1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons



1/23/9 – Lifted “Global Gag Rule” on international health groups



1/26/9 – Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles



1/26/9 – Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change



1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter “Fair Pay” Act



2/1/9 – Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP



2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.



2/24/9 – Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health



2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide



2/27/9 – Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq



4/1/9 – Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.



4/1/9 – Enhanced U.S. – China relations



4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies



4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies



4/5/9 – Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation



4/13/9 – Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance



4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster [Pakistan's] economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"



4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.



5/8/9 – Proposed International Affairs budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help with an international crisis situation.



6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"



8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison



9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through repurposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.




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Can't remember his name but there is this man who has built like 150 schools for kids / girls mostly in places like Afghanistan, Africa etc. Brought water to like 100's of villages that didn't have it. He has tons of death threats and attempts on life but still does it.

I think he was the front runner. Sucks because he could really use the money. Obama should just donate it to him which I am sure he will do. If not him some other charity.

I like your list though most of the things you point out were only speeches. you don't find it strange he wins before actually making any of that happen?
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Bush JR did more in Africa then anything Obama has done yet.

Obama was more qualified for Nobel prize for Literature for his speeches and book.
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Can't remember his name but there is this man who has built like 150 schools for kids / girls mostly in places like Afghanistan, Africa etc. Brought water to like 100's of villages that didn't have it. He has tons of death threats and attempts on life but still does it.

I think he was the front runner. Sucks because he could really use the money. Obama should just donate it to him which I am sure he will do. If not him some other charity.

I like your list though most of the things you point out were only speeches. you don't find it strange he wins before actually making any of that happen?
Well, words do matter. I believe that is why MLK won and not LBJ.

Also, not to pick on you here, but how incredibly awful is it that Americans can't name anybody else deserving. I noted in the other thread how this was proposed to Joe Scarborough and he couldn't name anybody, then finally came up with a person that worked on behalf of the POTUS. You named possible actions of 1 person who you can't actually name without googling. Not really on a high horse here, since I'm no better either - just an embarrassing observation of us as a nation.

Edit: Also, there is more there than just speeches.
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Well, words do matter. I believe that is why MLK won and not LBJ.

Also, not to pick on you here, but how incredibly awful is it that Americans can't name anybody else deserving. I noted in the other thread how this was proposed to Joe Scarborough and he couldn't name anybody, then finally came up with a person that worked on behalf of the POTUS. You named possible actions of 1 person who you can't actually name without googling. Not really on a high horse here, since I'm no better either - just an embarrassing observation of us as a nation.

Edit: Also, there is more there than just speeches.

Well I don't follow it or really consider it a big deal. After Yassar Arafat won I just figured the whole thing probably politically messed up.

I was happy to see the medicine one also went to an American so we kicked some ass and you know I love that best of all.

Better Obama then Putin etc right?

I guess I could rattle off some names without google.

Bono
Angelina Jolie

But I think they may have been honored before, bono I think shared it last yr maybe.

Your right though Americans don't follow whose in the running for the Nobel peace prizes.
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Also I disagree. Obama just talked a lot, I think this prize is international pressure to fix the Israeli/Palestinian problem.

I don't think it can be done because both sides have deal breakers they refuse to settle on.

So I won't blame Obama if he fails, I will just say he was stupid to bring it up and make people think he was going to solve it.

Good luck to him though.
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Well I don't follow it or really consider it a big deal. After Yassar Arafat won I just figured the whole thing probably politically messed up.

I was happy to see the medicine one also went to an American so we kicked some ass and you know I love that best of all.

Better Obama then Putin etc right?

I guess I could rattle off some names without google.

Bono
Angelina Jolie

But I think they may have been honored before, bono I think shared it last yr maybe.

Your right though Americans don't follow whose in the running for the Nobel peace prizes.
It's funny, my first thought after hearing this besides ''that's really cool'' was ''I wonder how many times I'll hear Arafat's name today''.

I love Bono and Jolie, but I think that exemplifies my point that the people we think of are the same people you'll see on TMZ every week.

Anyways, in my liberal mind the opposite winner of this award would be Dick Cheney, and seeing how Cheney reacted to the President's position on torture, pre-emptive War, Gitmo, negotiating with enemies, and the ilk, I see a legit case for Obama. People can deny it, but it's clear much of the world sees it too.

Was he the best case though? I don't know, because like this message board I don't know enough about the people that may be more deserving. But it's pretty damn cool.
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Also I disagree. Obama just talked a lot, I think this prize is international pressure to fix the Israeli/Palestinian problem.

I don't think it can be done because both sides have deal breakers they refuse to settle on.

So I won't blame Obama if he fails, I will just say he was stupid to bring it up and make people think he was going to solve it.

Good luck to him though.
Do you think torture is just talk? Like me, most of the world believes what we did broke with the Geneva Conventions and was a War Crime. Ending that alone is a pretty big deal, imho.

Also, MLK, just talk?
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3/18/8 – Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations



7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin



11/6/8 – Obama’s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.



12/1/8 – Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.



1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace



1/22/9 – Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay



1/22/9 – Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies



1/22/9 – Prohibited use of torture



1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons



1/23/9 – Lifted “Global Gag Rule” on international health groups



1/26/9 – Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles



1/26/9 – Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change



1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter “Fair Pay” Act



2/1/9 – Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP



2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.



2/24/9 – Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health



2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide



2/27/9 – Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq



4/1/9 – Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.



4/1/9 – Enhanced U.S. – China relations



4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies



4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies



4/5/9 – Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation



4/13/9 – Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance



4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster [Pakistan's] economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"



4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.



5/8/9 – Proposed International Affairs budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help with an international crisis situation.



6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"



8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison



9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through repurposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.




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And if you don't like this, better choices would be .....?
Morgan Tsvangirai. Used the most peaceful means possible to win an election against Mugabi and got the **** beat out of him for it. If the committee really wanted to support peaceful change they missed a golden opportunity rather than this folly with Obama, someone wholly undeserving.

They have made this prize now offically a joke. It was on shakey ground already but this now is just silly.
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every bedwetter will google to hell freezes over to find one , and low and behold , they wont agree with the guys politics , but damm it he is more deserving then Obama
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Morgan Tsvangirai. Used the most peaceful means possible to win an election against Mugabi and got the **** beat out of him for it. If the committee really wanted to support peaceful change they missed a golden opportunity rather than this folly with Obama, someone wholly undeserving.

They have made this prize now offically a joke. It was on shakey ground already but this now is just silly.
just for ****s and Giggles but how does this relate to helpin world peace ya silly bastard ?
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I think they did this to put Obama on the spot. It wasn't a favor. They know he will have to donate the money. They know it will now be harder to use military in Afghanistan and thats what Europe wants.

Very smart move there is no person they could have named that would generate more buzz then Obama.

If I was Obama i would be upset about this. It really makes his job tougher. When he wants to be heavy handed people will say you are a peace prize winner remember that etc.
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What a joke...lol...
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Ferrotte trying to find reasons he won is funny.
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just for ****s and Giggles but how does this relate to helpin world peace ya silly bastard ?
It can be for promoting peace in as little as one area. in 2004 Wangari Muta Maathai won for being a peace activist in Kenya and working in that country.

The bummer is a lot of these activists could really use the million bucks. Hopefully Obama doesn't give it to ACORN!!!! hehehehe.
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wow so Obama was nominated 12 days after taking office? Man this Nobel committee really takes some liberties with what it takes to win.
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It can be for promoting peace in as little as one area. in 2004 Wangari Muta Maathai won for being a peace activist in Kenya and working in that country.

The bummer is a lot of these activists could really use the million bucks. Hopefully Obama doesn't give it to ACORN!!!! hehehehe.
seriously , you think I am stupid enough to believe this bull**** ?
see here is the difference , I dont think Obama deserved this , not even close , but I am not pulling bull**** out of the air , or bringing up someone I never heard of as if I had a clue as to who deserves what .......
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If I was on the Obama team, I would be thrilled with this award. Any decision that is made in Afghanistan can be banked off of the Peace prize.

"We're doing XYZ because of our commitment to peace. See? Look at my medal."
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seriously , you think I am stupid enough to believe this bull**** ?
see here is the difference , I dont think Obama deserved this , not even close , but I am not pulling bull**** out of the air , or bringing up someone I never heard of as if I had a clue as to who deserves what .......
I'm not acting like I knew who the **** she was. I have no idea what is going on with those awards until you here them announced, then I forget. If anything they picked Gore, picked Obama because no one cares about maahata shockkakkala from Uganda etc.

My point was that I did know it could be given even if you weren't a player on the world stage. I did know it could be given to work done in one country etc etc.
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It's a globalist award, not one for a new President.
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Obama is becoming Jimmy Carter faster than Jimmy Carter is became Jimmy Carter.
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AP Poll: Obama's job approval rises amid concerns

By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Beth Fouhy, Associated Press Writer – 24 mins ago

NEW YORK – President Barack Obama's approval ratings are starting to rise after declining ever since his inauguration, new poll figures show as the country's mood begins to brighten. But concerns about the economy, health care and war persist, and support for the war in Afghanistan is falling.

An Associated Press-GfK poll says 56 percent of those surveyed in the past week approve of Obama's job performance, up from 50 percent in September. It's the first time since he took office in January that his rating has gone up.

People also feel better about his handling of the economy and his proposed health care overhaul.

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just for ****s and Giggles but how does this relate to helpin world peace ya silly bastard ?
The typical way in Africa is to overthrow a government is through violence. This guy has tried to play by the rules the whole way and keeping the pressure on to let the people decide. He is really a solid example within the continent and for the whole world of peaceful change done at the obvious risk of personal injury or death.

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I'm not acting like I knew who the **** she was. I have no idea what is going on with those awards until you here them announced, then I forget. If anything they picked Gore, picked Obama because no one cares about maahata shockkakkala from Uganda etc.

My point was that I did know it could be given even if you weren't a player on the world stage. I did know it could be given to work done in one country etc etc.
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