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Old 10-08-2009, 11:41 AM   #1
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Default Jason Whitlock: McDaniels' mishandling of Cutler might've destroyed a Super Bowl team

Here is Jason Whitlock's take on the Broncos fast start.......

7. It's comical watching everyone fall over themselves praising Josh McDaniels for Denver's 4-0 start when the Broncos' undefeated start is the No. 1 reason McDaniels should be ripped.

Put Jay Cutler under center and the Broncos are a serious Super Bowl threat rather than a nice, first-quarter-of-the-season story.

Kyle Orton ain't winning no Super Bowl. Not in this life. Not on this planet. McDaniels' mishandling of Cutler might've destroyed a Super Bowl team. That's the story. That mistake isn't water under the bridge. We don't forget about it because it happened in February. You can lose the Super Bowl in the offseason just as easily as you can by improperly using timeouts or calling the wrong plays.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:43 AM   #2
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This is going to get ugly. Quick.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:43 AM   #3
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
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Oh and we all knew he was a total moron, he just likes to remind us from time to time.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:44 AM   #5
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:45 AM   #6
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Why doesn't anyone give Orton any love at all? No picks!!
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:46 AM   #7
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:49 AM   #8
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Eh, not hating, just have to agree with him on this one right now.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:52 AM   #9
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Default Jason Whitlock speaks the truth

"It's comical watching everyone fall over themselves praising Josh McDaniels for Denver's 4-0 start when the Broncos' undefeated start is the No. 1 reason McDaniels should be ripped.

Put Jay Cutler under center and the Broncos are a serious Super Bowl threat rather than a nice, first-quarter-of-the-season story.

Kyle Orton ain't winning no Super Bowl. Not in this life. Not on this planet. McDaniels' mishandling of Cutler might've destroyed a Super Bowl team. That's the story. That mistake isn't water under the bridge. We don't forget about it because it happened in February. You can lose the Super Bowl in the offseason just as easily as you can by improperly using timeouts or calling the wrong plays."

I don't believe the Kyle Orton led Broncos= Trent Dilfer led Broncos.
There I said it, hoping to eat crow, but Whitlock speaks the inconvenient truth.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:53 AM   #10
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this guy is a dbag, with Cutler we would have drafted differently and might not have gotten Knowshon, Ayers, or smith.

This is a team sport, qb is important, but so is a Defense. Look at Tampa Bay and Baltimore, both won superbowl with Defense, and Dilfer and Brad Johnson at QB. That is looking like the direction we are going in, with a more potent offense then those teams.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:55 AM   #11
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I'm not talking about "my bad" anymore. Just make the play!
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:56 AM   #12
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I don't have a problem with what Fatlock said.....IMO, Orton is just along for the ride....
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:57 AM   #13
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He's right, with as many playoff wins as Cutler had here in Denver, we were sooo close to getting to the Super Bowl.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:57 AM   #14
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eh, not hating, just have to agree with him on this one right now.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:58 AM   #15
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Okay, I'll admit the thought has occurred to me that if we still had Cutler, we'd be a Super Bowl contender. But you also have to keep in mind that without Josh McDaniels and Mike Nolan, the defense wouldn't be nearly as good as it is. Did McDaniels screw up the Cutler thing? Yes. But he also helped make one of the league's wost defenses into (from first appearances) one of the league's best. It's give and take, I suppose.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:58 AM   #16
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honestly, anyone that says cutler isn't a more talented qb is being retarded.

We have orton, and while king neckbeard doesn't inspire confidence in me that he can take a game over and win it - i don't hate the bastard.

But some of the people on this board are really ****ing silly.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:02 PM   #17
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I don't think Whitlock's statement is outrageous on it's face - many people hold that you need a franchise QB to win a superbowl. Even though that's not true, there is some reason behind the logic (it makes it easier if your QB is a huge threat).

But his reasoning is flawed for two reasons: First, he assumes that Cutler is the type of franchise QB that can win a championship. Argue it all you want, he has not proven it. Second, Whitlock is holding McDaniels to a ridiculous standard: That he is not successful this year unless he wins a superbowl. Given this team's playoff record since the 98 season, and especially the last couple of years, that is silly. For McDaniels to "destroy a superbowl team" there first has to be a superbowl team. It's an argument based on a lot of assumption and conjecture.

McDaniels' immediate success here will be judged by winning, and long-term by whether or not he can win a superbowl. His handling of the Cutler trade and anything else is all secondary to that.

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Old 10-08-2009, 12:03 PM   #18
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We didn't really have to give up Cutler to have Nolan come in and overhaul the defense, Cutler situation was just a bad call by Josh IMHO. Frankly this might sound even more convoluted but I think if Shanahan was still here and we had Nolan, then we would definitely be over the top, obviously josh/nolan was the new regime.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:04 PM   #19
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Its true, swap cutler for orton, we are better. period. its black and white. Thats how media makes opinions. When you start manufacturing variables, who knows what u get.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:06 PM   #20
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Did he just imply that McDaniels might of destroyed a superbowl team?

Everyone was picking this team to be dog**** throughout the offseason, now all of a sudden we are a Cutler away from winning the Superbowl?

its pretty clear this offense has room to improve, this offense is in no way a finished product

Ill wait until the end of the year before claiming Cutler would fix all our problems
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:06 PM   #21
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Its true, swap cutler for orton, we are better. period. its black and white. Thats how media makes opinions. When you start manufacturing variables, who knows what u get.
Except we didn't swap Cutler for Orton. We swapped him for Orton, two firsts and a third.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:08 PM   #22
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:08 PM   #23
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:09 PM   #24
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Eh, not hating, just have to agree with him on this one right now.
Me too. Spilled milk and all...

Still, I'm thrilled with the defense and the overall direction of the team.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:10 PM   #25
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I love the 4-0 start as much as anybody, but it's like the elephant in the room you can't ignore it. We would all love the have the killer defense and still have, Culter, Marshall and Royal hanging 40 on our opponents....
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