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View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?
Great Offense 7 9.21%
Great Defense 69 90.79%
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:16 AM   #1
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All things being equal, which would you rather have, a great offense or a great defense?
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:18 AM   #2
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There is a poll on ESPN and I thought it was an interesting poll so I wanted to see what the Orangemane felt about it.
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:46 AM   #3
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Defense stops the other team from scoring. That's preferable to a shootout, IMO...
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:46 AM   #4
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How about a great team.
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Allow me to quote something my good friend "W" told me the other day.

Champions win tickets that....err, wait.

Defenses sell champions their tickets.....

Tickets are offensive to champions....

The best offense is a good championship.....

...err, I won't get fooled again!!
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:20 AM   #6
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The best offense is a good defense.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:23 AM   #7
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Right, that's what I meant!!
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:28 AM   #8
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Right, that's what I meant!!
Throw in great punt and kickoff coverage, a powerful running game, a smart quaterback, a couple playmakers and...viola!
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:32 AM   #9
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Right. Where's the Great Special Teams option?

This poll is IN-COM-PLETE!!

Wow, 3 posts in under 20 minutes. Still drunk from last night apparently.....
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:03 AM   #10
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Great defense.

You are always in the game with a great 'D'.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:36 AM   #11
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Allow me to quote something my good friend "W" told me the other day.

Champions win tickets that....err, wait.

Defenses sell champions their tickets.....

Tickets are offensive to champions....

The best offense is a good championship.....

...err, I won't get fooled again!!
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:37 AM   #12
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Defense...Watching dominant d is always more exciting than dominant o...but I'm a purist. As Herm Edwards said, this isn't Arena football.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:44 AM   #13
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I don't think anyone one wants a great offense at the expense of a good defense, or a great defense at the expense of a good offense.

Still, with the direction of the current NFL and the way the League keeps hand-cuffing defenders, It looks like a team with a Great Offense and a Good D will prevail over a team with a Great Defense and a Good Offense more often than not.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:14 AM   #14
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That's not a simple question to answer. Will the other side of the ball be horrible, average?

If you have a great O you can play with a lead, which could help the D play better. But if you have a great D then you can call a safe game plan on O to limit the turnovers and let the D win the game for you.

Give me a great D with a good running game and just pass the ball when needed. That formula seems to work a lot. Hell, the Steelers just won two Super Bowls doing that. The Giants too. Ben and Eli didn't need to air it out until needed.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:25 AM   #15
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I don't think anyone one wants a great offense at the expense of a good defense, or a great defense at the expense of a good offense.

Still, with the direction of the current NFL and the way the League keeps hand-cuffing defenders, It looks like a team with a Great Offense and a Good D will prevail over a team with a Great Defense and a Good Offense more often than not.
Disagree. Pitt won last year with a great defense and a good offense. They were the #1 defense and Arizona was the #4 offense. The Tampa Bay and Baltimore SB seasons are good examples too. NE's first SB win, and last SB loss are good examples of defense winning a game and the offense maintaining it. In the 80's and 90's it was generally just the opposite, we won with a great offense and a good defense. No, it's not always like that but that seems to be the trend now.
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Defense...Watching dominant d is always more exciting than dominant o...but I'm a purist. As Herm Edwards said, this isn't Arena football.
I disagree there, I think a dominant D is more satisfying to watch, I love seeing another team shut down, and bent to the will of the Broncos, but a Dominant O has those electrifying moments that get the highlight of the week coverage. Exciting I would give to a great O, but I will take a dominant D over that any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:33 AM   #17
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Without even a moment of hesitation, defense.
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That like saying would you rather have Big boobies or a Nice ass.
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That like saying would you rather have Big boobies or a Nice ass.
See, Im an ass man.

If I gotta choose one or the other she better have a nice ass. Hence the reason I married my wife.
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See, Im an ass man.

If I gotta choose one or the other she better have a nice ass. Hence the reason I married my wife.
LMAO oh man that's funny stuff, You mean your wife ass caught your attention then her personalty made you marry her.
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LMAO oh man that's funny stuff, You mean your wife ass caught your attention then her personalty made you marry her.
Not exactly....no.

I married the ass, the personality was suitable enough to make this an equitable proposition for me.
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Not exactly....no.

I married the ass, the personality was suitable enough to make this an equitable proposition for me.
Oh ok I understand now, Well your ****ed
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:01 AM   #23
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Defense - I love hard hitting low scoring games
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If its a scenario where having a great defense, means having an equally poor offense, id rather have the great offense. If having a great defense means having a mediocre offense (and vice versa), I would be more about the defense.

When you have a great defense, and an equally bad offense, youre really vulnerable against great offenses. If you have a great offense, that can at east give you a punchers chance to outscore any other team.

If your offense is somewhat capable and you have a great defense, youre a lot less vulnerable.

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Disagree. Pitt won last year with a great defense and a good offense. They were the #1 defense and Arizona was the #4 offense. The Tampa Bay and Baltimore SB seasons are good examples too. NE's first SB win, and last SB loss are good examples of defense winning a game and the offense maintaining it. In the 80's and 90's it was generally just the opposite, we won with a great offense and a good defense. No, it's not always like that but that seems to be the trend now.
I'd say that the Broncos '98 and '99 defenses were underrated. Those were some very good defenses and outplayed the O in some of those playoff wins. At KC in '97 and against the Jets in '98, the O struggled while the D played great all game.
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