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Old 09-21-2009, 04:41 PM   #1
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Default orton 2nd in 25+ yard completions

after peyton manning, ahead of brees and rivers. thats hefty company right there. his QB rating is great and hes not turning the ball over. initially i didnt like what i was seeing, but when you look at his game as a whole, its pretty good, especially for this offense. just distribute the ball to the playmakers and let them do their job. i retract my start tom B statements for the time being!
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But but he can't throw downfield>>?!!?!! Hurrrrr durrrrrrr hurrrrrrrr
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pretty shockingly good information
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But but he can't throw downfield>>?!!?!! Hurrrrr durrrrrrr hurrrrrrrr
Cute, but again...25+ yard completions does not equate to throwing downfield.

Do you see why?
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But but he can't throw downfield>>?!!?!! Hurrrrr durrrrrrr hurrrrrrrr
You may want to start watching the games again... all those "Long" completions were relatively short throws that the WR turned into long gains.

But... FWIW, the retarded "Durr Hurr" sounds were much more pleasant than your normal posts.

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after peyton manning, ahead of brees and rivers. thats hefty company right there. his QB rating is great and hes not turning the ball over. initially i didnt like what i was seeing, but when you look at his game as a whole, its pretty good, especially for this offense. just distribute the ball to the playmakers and let them do their job. i retract my start tom B statements for the time being!
thats just silly talk , everyone knows Cutler is a franchise QB and Orton sucks
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And once again, this offense wasn't designed to go deep down field. it was designed to give the playmakers a chance to -- ready? -- make plays! Get them the ball with space to run, and that's exactly what they're doing.

I'm going to withhold judgement on Orton's ability/arm until he takes the glove off. Should be this week. hopefully that makes his ball less wobbly and gives him a bit more zip.

FTR, it's a very different feeling to throw the ball with a glove than without. Just saying.
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You may want to start watching the games again... all those "Long" completions were relatively short throws that the WR turned into long gains.
thats not a bad thing...his job is to get the ball to the guys who make the plays, and hes doing it. the recievers are better at their position than orton is at QB, i think we all agree on that, so all he has to do is get them the ball in open space and let them do what tehy do, ill take a 10 yard throw and 20 YAC instead of a 30 yard attempt downfield where completion % is lower.

orton has taken shots downfield (not 50 yards but 20-30 yards) too and has looked pretty good doing it however
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And once again, this offense wasn't designed to go deep down field. it was designed to give the playmakers a chance to -- ready? -- make plays! Get them the ball with space to run, and that's exactly what they're doing.

I'm going to withhold judgement on Orton's ability/arm until he takes the glove off. Should be this week. hopefully that makes his ball less wobbly and gives him a bit more zip.

FTR, it's a very different feeling to throw the ball with a glove than without. Just saying.
All that fancy smancy mumbo jumbo,make a play football talk .......... face it Cutler is a franchise
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Oh Boy! Now that we finally have a guy who has the arm strength to throw deep, no one can stop us!

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You may want to start watching the games again... all those "Long" completions were relatively short throws that the WR turned into long gains.

But... FWIW, the retarded "Durr Hurr" sounds were much more pleasant than your normal posts.
The offense isn't designed for a bunch of low % bombs (no matter who is QB, those are low % passes). However, Orton HAS thrown several passes 20-50 yards.

Im with tsiguy, Id rather go with the higher % pass in the short-intermediate range and get the 20+ YAC after it.
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Next thing you know Denvermooseguy will come in here and tell us Orton not turning the ball over is a bad thing cause if we sustain drives our defense will get rusty
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Oh Boy! Now that we finally have a guy who has the arm strength to throw deep, no one can stop us!
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The offense isn't designed for a bunch of low % bombs (no matter who is QB, those are low % passes). However, Orton HAS thrown several passes 20-50 yards.

Im with tsiguy, Id rather go with the higher % pass in the short-intermediate range and get the 20+ YAC after it.
Good lord people... My post in response to Karenin and his/her assumption that this proved that Orton could go down field at will... because he can't and we should all know that by now.

Now... I realize it very popular to pretend this offense isn't designed to go down field. Problem is they use the long ball in NE quite a bit. So if you ask me the reason we don't has more to do with out talent (both QB & WR's) than with it's design.

Trust me, at some point we will need to stretch the defense to some degree or we will continue to see 8 & 9 men fronts.
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Good lord people... My post in response to Karenin and his/her assumption that this proved that Orton could go down field at will... because he can't and we should all know that by now.

Now... I realize it very popular to pretend this offense isn't designed to go down field. Problem is they use the long ball in NE quite a bit. So if you ask me the reason we don't has more to do with out talent (both QB & WR's) than with it's design.

Trust me, at some point we will need to stretch the defense to some degree or we will continue to see 8 & 9 men fronts.
"quite a bit" is an overstatement. they were talking about this during the pats game, the long ball is set up by using a ton of inside crossing and slant rights to bring in the defense, then hit the occasional bomb to moss (marshall) for a TD which hopefully spreads the defense back out. orton HAS thrown it long a few times.
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Good lord people... My post in response to Karenin and his/her assumption that this proved that Orton could go down field at will... because he can't and we should all know that by now.

Now... I realize it very popular to pretend this offense isn't designed to go down field. Problem is they use the long ball in NE quite a bit. So if you ask me the reason we don't has more to do with out talent (both QB & WR's) than with it's design.

Trust me, at some point we will need to stretch the defense to some degree or we will continue to see 8 & 9 men fronts.
Why do you continue to insist Orton cannot throw the ball down field?



Not to mention several balls he threw down field yesterday.
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Wait ... you're saying he's thrown the 3rd most 25+ yard completions in the league?

I'm gonna have to see a link on that one, cowboy.
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"quite a bit" is an overstatement. they were talking about this during the pats game, the long ball is set up by using a ton of inside crossing and slant rights to bring in the defense, then hit the occasional bomb to moss (marshall) for a TD which hopefully spreads the defense back out. orton HAS thrown it long a few times.
Would you prefer the phrase "More than never"? Because so far through 6 games we have NEVER seen Orton do it.

At some point either we are going to figure out a way to go deep or we are going to need to figure out another way to get the safty out of the box. As of now the defenses are stacking to box with nothing to fear.
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Would you prefer the phrase "More than never"? Because so far through 6 games we have NEVER seen Orton do it.

At some point either we are going to figure out a way to go deep or we are going to need to figure out another way to get the safty out of the box. As of now the defenses are stacking to box with nothing to fear.
40+ yd bomb to marshall that went right between has hands ring a bell?
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Would you prefer the phrase "More than never"? Because so far through 6 games we have NEVER seen Orton do it.

At some point either we are going to figure out a way to go deep or we are going to need to figure out another way to get the safty out of the box. As of now the defenses are stacking to box with nothing to fear.
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He threw down field a few times yesterday.

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40+ yd bomb to marshall that went right between has hands ring a bell?
Oh, you mean the one that was under thrown by 10 yards?
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Wow, okay. Doesn't seem like it, but guess it's true
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Oh, you mean the one that was under thrown by 10 yards?
no, the one that went literally directly between his hands. why you are complaining about us not chucking it deep i dont know, doing that lost us a lot of games last year. its a low percentage throw, mcdaniels knows that, you only do it when its available, dont force it or you look like cutler.
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