The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-20-2009, 07:51 PM   #1
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default defense: #3/#2 in the league

yards and scoring. we are also 2-0. good to say huh?
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 09-20-2009, 08:05 PM   #2
mwill07
Ring of Famer
 
mwill07's Avatar
 
Lurker Extraordinaire

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,983

Adopt-a-Bronco:
VMFM
Default

I was just thinking that this really highlights how terrible Slowik was...one off-season's worth of FA acquisitions and a new scheme, and this D is respectable again. Pretty incredible,
mwill07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:09 PM   #3
brncs_fan
How about some Tapenade!
 
brncs_fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The Coaches Cradle...Eastern Illinois University
Posts: 5,392

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Manti Teo
Default

Were are also 3rd in point differential.

Score!
brncs_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mwill07 View Post
I was just thinking that this really highlights how terrible Slowik was...one off-season's worth of FA acquisitions and a new scheme, and this D is respectable again. Pretty incredible,
one season of low-key FA! not the usual retards shanahan signed all the time. read the post game pressers, this D loves playing with each other.
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:20 PM   #5
Zoobie
Love Machine
 
Zoobie's Avatar
 
The John Fox trot

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland,OR
Posts: 461

Adopt-a-Bronco:
David Bruton
Default

I think what's astounding is our defense hasn't worn down during these games, and today they held Cleveland scoreless for the final 3 quarters. 45 minutes of football. Classy.
Zoobie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:24 PM   #6
Garcia Bronco
Hokie since 1993
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 47,000

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Tom Jackson
Default

#7 Offense as well...and we haven't looked great at all.
Garcia Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:25 PM   #7
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

one thing to note: the only team beating us in points allowed has NOT played 2 games yet....
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:30 PM   #8
BlaK-Argentina
Pampita says...
 
BlaK-Argentina's Avatar
 
... support your team!

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Villa La Angostura
Posts: 5,104
Default

Let's hope it lasts. I will kill myself if we start sliding like we always do.

Let's hope McD won't let that happen.
BlaK-Argentina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:32 PM   #9
McDman
Ring of Famer
 
McDman's Avatar
 
Huzzah!

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,732

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Did anyone else notice Doom got his sack coming out of the 4-3 on the RT?
McDman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #10
lex
Ring of Famer
 
lex's Avatar
 
The Broncos have been DisemBowlened

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chi-Town
Posts: 10,236

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mwill07 View Post
I was just thinking that this really highlights how terrible Slowik was...one off-season's worth of FA acquisitions and a new scheme, and this D is respectable again. Pretty incredible,
And its not like a lot of the new guys are all pro types. A lot of people apologizing for Slowik last year seemed to think thats what was needed to have a good defense. Its funny how a good DC that can scheme, can make players look better and one who cant, obviously makes them look worse. Last year, I maintained that the Slowik was so bad that it was difficult to know who was bad and how bad they are/were.
lex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:48 PM   #11
lex
Ring of Famer
 
lex's Avatar
 
The Broncos have been DisemBowlened

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chi-Town
Posts: 10,236

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

I think, statistically, Denver may end up better than average, depending on how things play out with Oakland and KC. But theyll basically be average by the end of the season, which would be a huge upgrade.
lex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:57 PM   #12
GoBroncos DownUnder
Perennial Pro-bowler
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ex-Australia - now in Da 'Boig!
Posts: 964

Adopt-a-Bronco:
AJ Smith!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina View Post
Let's hope it lasts. I will kill myself if we start sliding like we always do.
Sorry, but we ARE going to slide, we haven't really played anyone yet. I would be ECSTATIC though if our defense stayed in the top 10!


So I suppose all Shanny needed to do to keep his job was: FIRE Slowik and CUT 2/3 of our starters ... which was never going to happen!
Good start to the season at 2-0!
GoBroncos DownUnder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 08:59 PM   #13
Chris
Millenium Scrooge McDuck
 
Chris's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,576

Adopt-a-Bronco:
OrlandoFranklin
Default

Can't wait to see us play Dallas. Stats aside, I love the toughness of this new D.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 09:10 PM   #14
Hercules Rockefeller
Ring of Famer
 
Hercules Rockefeller's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,292

Adopt-a-Bronco:
DJ Williams
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsiguy96 View Post
one thing to note: the only team beating us in points allowed has NOT played 2 games yet....
Then they're not beating Denver in points. Denver's ppg @ 6.5 will be tops on Tuesday unless the Colts pitch a shutout.
Hercules Rockefeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 09:27 PM   #15
halfcreek
Pro Bowler
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 577
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina View Post
Let's hope it lasts. I will kill myself if we start sliding like we always do.

Let's hope McD won't let that happen.

That might hurt.
halfcreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 09:30 PM   #16
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller View Post
Then they're not beating Denver in points. Denver's ppg @ 6.5 will be tops on Tuesday unless the Colts pitch a shutout.
thats why i made that note, while a shutout is possible its unlikely, but as of right now we arent officially #1. 24 hours however
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 02:05 AM   #17
cutthemdown
A verbis ad verbera
 
cutthemdown's Avatar
 
Zimm to HOF

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 36,916
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mwill07 View Post
I was just thinking that this really highlights how terrible Slowik was...one off-season's worth of FA acquisitions and a new scheme, and this D is respectable again. Pretty incredible,
I blame it more on this:

1- Bringing back Nate Webster from being out of football and then starting him in the middle.

2- Bringing in Winborn and playing him a lot

3- Bringing in Boss Bailey and starting him

4- Keeping Engleberger around for so long starting at Dend.

5- Neglecting the safety position, then manning it with McCree and Manual.

6- Trading for Robertson after he was washed up

Those things would sink any D-coord and they are all Shannies fault. Those guys were his solution to the defense. Then defense got treated like the b team in Denver as Shanny spent all his focus on offense.

Meanwhile the d coord was always left with a small crappy team.
cutthemdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 02:07 AM   #18
cutthemdown
A verbis ad verbera
 
cutthemdown's Avatar
 
Zimm to HOF

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 36,916
Default

With teams like NE/Dal/Pitt/Eagles/Chargers 2 times etc we probably won't stay that high. But at least we are improved and not the laughing stocks people said we would be.
cutthemdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 06:37 AM   #19
barryr
Ring of Famer
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,805

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

I doubt this will stay the course all season, but it is nice to see the Broncos stopping teams from going up and down the field all game long and not allowing big kickoff or punt returns either. McDaniels didn't just provide lip service like Shanahan when it came to improving the defense and special teams.
barryr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 06:45 AM   #20
bronclvr
Ring of Famer
 
bronclvr's Avatar
 
She is faster than you! 8.39 @ 156

Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,891
Default

I am on the Nolan bandwagon! Dawkins is the man, it's still early, but our D is definitely better, and it's great to see Dumervil getting sacks-in the words of Adam Schein, we're "rollin' with Nolan"!
bronclvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:01 AM   #21
Broncoman13
Broncoholic
 
Broncoman13's Avatar
 
JT #80

Join Date: May 2001
Location: Colorado
Posts: 16,849

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Orange Julius
Default

It is way to early to get excited about where we're at statistically compared to the rest of the NFL. The sample size is just too small to really get a great feel... but within the games there are a lot of individual areas that we do have a large enough sample to give us a good idea of what we will see in the future.

1. Good Tackling. Go back and watch DJ Williams yesterday. He wasn't in on a lot of tackles, but the ones he was in on featured 55 WRAPPING UP and making the sure tackles. I've not broken down the numbers, but if I had to guess I'd say we're down 75% in missed tackles from last year. Credit McD, Nolan, and the entire Defensive staff for focusing on tackling in the preseason.

2. Buckhalter has the best "burst" of any RB on this team.

3. McD still needs to figure out ways to integrate certain players on offense. Eddie Royal, Brandon Marshall, and Peyton Hillis to name a few. It was encouraging to see Hillis running on the goal line (and effective) as well as the end around to BMarsh. The first TD play to Scheff also suggests that McD is growing more comfortable with him which is a good sign as well.

4. Knowshon is will improve each game. He's still getting his game legs but what a weapon to have on this team. He needs to have 15 touches per game and I'm hoping that McD will make 4 or 5 of those in the passing game. The screen pass will be deadly with Knowshon, not that Buckhalter isn't great running it as well.

5. Pass rush, it is apparent that McD and Nolan are truly dedicated to getting pressure on the QB. So far we've seen Nolan willing to blitz if necessary and if somebody is getting it done with just 4 rushing (DOOOM) then he adjusts the coverages and we're that much stronger...... though we're still weak down the seam which needs to be corrected quickly. I shutter to think what good QBs would do to us down the middle... Brady, Roth, Rivers, Romo, etc. That's probably the biggest benefit of having cupcakes up front on our schedule.

6. We can stop the run. The Bengals are a good running offense. The Browns not so much so, but what I've seen so far, we can stop the run. The Faiders will be a great barometer next week and allow us to see how well we can cover the edges as the Faid will run both down the middle and try to hit the corners. Great test for this run D and I think they will be up to the challenge. Andra Davis especially looks dominant in this department.

Love what I'm seeing for the most part with exception of the Seam Coverage and the use of our offensive personnel. I think this thing is still coming together and we are fortunate to have teams like Cincy and Clev. for our OJT.
Broncoman13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:04 AM   #22
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoskie!!! View Post
it is way to early to get excited about where we're at statistically compared to the rest of the nfl.
bs!
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:06 AM   #23
DarkHorse
RPM Racer
 
DarkHorse's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 4,757

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kenny McKinley
Default

Before I went to bed last night we were #1 Defense in scoring - what happened?
DarkHorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:07 AM   #24
TonyR
Franchise Poster
 
TonyR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 19,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutthemdown View Post
I blame it more on this:
1- Bringing back Nate Webster from being out of football and then starting him in the middle.
2- Bringing in Winborn and playing him a lot
3- Bringing in Boss Bailey and starting him
4- Keeping Engleberger around for so long starting at Dend.
5- Neglecting the safety position, then manning it with McCree and Manual.
6- Trading for Robertson after he was washed up
Those things would sink any D-coord and they are all Shannies fault. Those guys were his solution to the defense. Then defense got treated like the b team in Denver as Shanny spent all his focus on offense.
Yep, the Shanny FO was completely and totally lost on D talent evaluation and acquisition. They threw good money at the likes of Boss Bailey, Niko Koutouvides, and Dewayne Robertson, two of whom aren't even in the league right now. And they were supposed to provide answers last season. Just unbelievable. And some people seriously wanted to keep that coaching staff on board?
TonyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:20 AM   #25
HooptyHoops
We need a DE
 
HooptyHoops's Avatar
 
C'mon D

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West Des Moines, IA
Posts: 1,592

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Eddie Royal
Default

What I love about this D is when a QB goes bck to pass, there are times that he has a lot of time to throw, only to be sacked, as our backfield is covering so well. That is simply awesome!!
HooptyHoops is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:03 AM.


Denver Broncos