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Old 09-20-2009, 05:12 PM   #1
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The O-line and Graham (and Quinn) blew open some big holes today ...

Buckhalter = 76 yards
Moreno = 75 yards

If Orton keeps up this zero-interception run, we'll be a running offense, I love it.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:14 PM   #2
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The O-line and Graham (and Quinn) blew open some big holes today ...

Buckhalter = 76 yards
Moreno = 75 yards

If Orton keeps up this zero-interception run, we'll be a running offense, I love it.

Orton had 27 pass attempts by half time.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:14 PM   #3
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I really wish we'd do more than just a singleback set. I think we'd be a lot better with a fullback in and it'd give Hillis an opportunity to make plays.
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Orton just gets rid of it where Jay would try to fit it into a window 30 yards downfield. A couple throws (the one in the flats to Jordan and the one near the endzone to Eddie) were just getting keeping the drive breathing.

I hope the D keeps this up. They should have a good game against the Faiders.
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Orton had 27 pass attempts by half time.
I was under impressed with the first half game plan. It was nice to see some adjustments at half time. Let's hope it carries forward.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:16 PM   #6
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Yeah baby, the running game is looking better. It was after all Cleveland but it was good seeing our RB's hit the openings.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:18 PM   #7
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The playbook is still very vanilla - josh aint showing what we have until we have to. Winning without getting out of first gear and watching a defence in sync with what the offense is showing. How could you not be impressed?
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God I hope they keep running the ball
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:19 PM   #9
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It will be interesting to see our future game plans. It kind of has a feeling that McDaniels still isn't sure what he wants to call because honestly we haven't seen what a lot of these guys can do. I do expect a lot more runs in the first half next week and nowhere near 27 pass attempts.
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Orton had 27 pass attempts by half time.
True, but we ran in the second half. Hillis and that AWESOME Buckhalter TD, I'm starting to love that guy.

Knowshon + Hillis + Buckhalter ... why not just run the ball behind that line?
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The O-line and Graham (and Quinn) blew open some big holes today ...

Buckhalter = 76 yards
Moreno = 75 yards

If Orton keeps up this zero-interception run, we'll be a running offense, I love it.
Teams will stack 8 in the box eventually to stop the run and force Orton to beat them with the pass as the season wears on. Hopefully the passing came becomes more consistent.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:21 PM   #12
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Teams will stack 8 in the box eventually to stop the run and force Orton to beat them with the pass as the season wears on. Hopefully the passing came becomes more consistent.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:23 PM   #13
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True, but we ran in the second half. Hillis and that AWESOME Buckhalter TD, I'm starting to love that guy.

Knowshon + Hillis + Buckhalter ... why not just run the ball behind that line?

Ive been clamoring for a renewed dedication to the running game as well. And that was one of my biggest gripes with Shanahan. But McDaniels lost a super bowl because of ignoring the running game and today they didnt really run until they had amassed the lead. When the game was close, they were throwing.
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The O-line and Graham (and Quinn) blew open some big holes today ...

Buckhalter = 76 yards
Moreno = 75 yards

If Orton keeps up this zero-interception run, we'll be a running offense, I love it.
Good defense, 2 good RB to give the ball to, sounds a lot like the 2005 season.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:24 PM   #15
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Orton had 27 pass attempts by half time.
Over a 3rd of them came in a two minute drive where he got the team within FG range.

I wasn't real pleased with his first half passing either, he should have put a touchdown in that last drive, but you can't cite the number of pass attempts as being a huge problem when so many came in a two minute drill to end the half.

He has a lot of improving to do still. So did Matt Cassel at this time last year and by the end of the season he was killing teams. Orton deserves a good bit more time, especially with the improvement he showed coming into the second half.
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Trying to remember the last time I saw the Broncos pulling the LG and LT with Sheffler motioned to that side running the football.


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Drek, the halftime adjustments you talked about seem to me to have been: Relax, be patient, let the running game happen.

I don't mind being a running offense + pressure defense team. Refreshing. And if they satck 8 in the box, Orton is more than capable of making them pay. He won't win games by himself, but we don't need that.
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Trying to remember the last time I saw the Broncos pulling the LG and LT with Sheffler motioned to that side running the football.


NO KIDDING! .... a pulling guard ... what a concept! Haven't seen that here since what, Paul Howard? Keith Bishop? Mike Schnitker?!

I still hope they use ZBS some, though .... any and all change of paces work for me.
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I love Hochstein as FB gave Hillis a nice wall to run behind for that TD
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:31 PM   #20
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Drek, the halftime adjustments you talked about seem to me to have been: Relax, be patient, let the running game happen.

I don't mind being a running offense + pressure defense team. Refreshing. And if they satck 8 in the box, Orton is more than capable of making them pay. He won't win games by himself, but we don't need that.
He started hitting his backs for short yardage too. I mentioned the need for it in the game thread. A lot of people have said on this board that Orton's inability to go deep will result in him seeing a ton of blitzes all season long. In fact, some teams (like the Steelers) often gameplan a lot of blitzes to take away the long bombs (get to the QB before his guy can get deep). It isn't a definite way to solve the problem.

Hitting a back on a curl behind the blitzers though? Or out on the flat with a screen? That makes defensive coordinators start dropping LBs real damn fast.

The two passes to Moreno and the screen to Buckhalter (despite Marshall's hold) where a big part of Orton getting more comfortable in the second half.
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Over a 3rd of them came in a two minute drive where he got the team within FG range.

I wasn't real pleased with his first half passing either, he should have put a touchdown in that last drive, but you can't cite the number of pass attempts as being a huge problem when so many came in a two minute drill to end the half.

He has a lot of improving to do still. So did Matt Cassel at this time last year and by the end of the season he was killing teams. Orton deserves a good bit more time, especially with the improvement he showed coming into the second half.
Man, I am glad you are a poster here. It's refreshing to see such level headedness. Rep.
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Over a 3rd of them came in a two minute drive where he got the team within FG range.

I wasn't real pleased with his first half passing either, he should have put a touchdown in that last drive, but you can't cite the number of pass attempts as being a huge problem when so many came in a two minute drill to end the half.

He has a lot of improving to do still. So did Matt Cassel at this time last year and by the end of the season he was killing teams. Orton deserves a good bit more time, especially with the improvement he showed coming into the second half.
Agreed. The offense will only get better as they all gell in a new system.

It's easy to look at the offensive personnel and think it's basically the same as last year, but the new QB and offensive scheme means everyone has a learning curve.

Much better this week, but as you say, a long way to go.

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I don't want any of these moreno bashers from last week saying a thing, happy with the win and much better performance this week; granted we did play a crappy team
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