Give “mainstream news” a new name here:

[Bob]

It is time the “mainstream” media gets a new name. They are not mainstream. Not by a long shot. My vote is for: The Old Leftist News. You want proof they are slipping into irrelevance?

First, look at how Americans are fleeing from them. “In fact, all three networks were down last week. The difference was that in the case of ABC and CBS, the declines reached into record territory.

ABC’s “World News” attracted an average 6.4 million viewers for the week, its smallest audience since Nielsen began using its people meter to track national TV audiences in the 1980s. That was down from just shy of 7 million viewers the prior week.

“Evening News with Katie Couric” drew an audience of just under 4.9 million viewers, its lowest ever, and down from 5.4 million viewers the prior week.” Media Life Magazine

The “Old Leftist Media” have lost viewers….while Fox “viewership is up 11 percent over last year, according to Nielsen Media Research. CNN and MSNBC, which benefited from interest in the campaign last year, are down. O'Reilly, who already had cable news' most popular show, Beck and Sean Hannity lead the way. The ratings expose as naive anyone who believed that the dawn of a Democratic government in Washington would hurt Fox.” Huffington Post

There's more, this time from the Washington Post
“Public respect for the media has plunged to a new low, with just 29 percent of Americans saying that news organizations generally get their facts straight. That figure is the lowest in more than two decades of surveys by the Pew Research Center, which also found just 26 percent saying news outlets are careful that their reporting is not politically biased. And 70 percent say news organizations try to cover up their mistakes. That amounts to a stunning vote of no confidence. The new wrinkle is that Democrats are increasingly unhappy with a profession long viewed as liberal, with 57 percent saying news reporting is often inaccurate, up from 43 percent two years ago.”

The reason is simple, if you want real information (from the left and right) about debates in healthcare, Acorn, anything about this admin (except a freaking state-run commercial) you can’t get it from them. I guess they are jockeying for bailout money? If so, they can’t bite the future hand that feeds them. By the way -- quiz time what media outlet does GE own?

Van Jones barely had any news about him, until after he got canned? Now, the Old Leftist Media is ignoring ACORN? They mock Tea party demonstrations, and intentionally go out of their way to portray them poorly to curry favor. Mainstream? I guess --if you think we are “All Socialists Now.” When they do go asking for bailout money, don’t worry, that won’t make matters worse…

[frerottenextelway]

Corporate media, or traditional media is what I use.

The new media rocks. I can't wait until the corporate media is dead, that was the Thugs last saving grace to power.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I just call it Liberal media.

It is what it is, and everyone knows it. Theyre only kidding themselves anymore.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by McSkillet

I just call it Liberal media.

It is what it is, and everyone knows it. Theyre only kidding themselves anymore.

And when some of these insulated politicians speak -- they must think we dont have access to the internet either -- and dare suggest that Obama had never said that he wanted to to get rid of private healthcare by favoring the public option. We have seen and heard Obama's own words on this topic, spoken by him! We have seen Van Jones rascist statements and positioins, and heard the crickets chirping by the media who has rolled over. We have seen what kind of so-called Americans Obama surrounds himself by, and they think we only have access to state run TV?

But wait there's more the FCC Czar is such a lover of free speech, he will use localism to shut down opposing voices. Only in the new fundalmentally transformed Amerika!

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Bob

And when some of these insulated politicians speak -- they must think we dont have access to the internet either -- and dare suggest that Obama had never said that he wanted to to get rid of private healthcare by favoring the public option. We have seen and heard Obama's own words on this topic, spoken by him! We have seen Van Jones rascist statements and positioins, and heard the crickets chirping by the media who has rolled over. We have seen what kind of so-called Americans Obama surrounds himself by, and they think we only have access to state run TV?

But wait there's more the FCC Czar is such a lover of free speech, he will use localism to shut down opposing voices. Only in the new fundalmentally transformed Amerika!

I would expect the fed to make one last gasp at controlling the thoughts of Americans by trying to regulate both radio and the internet.

There will be legislation, and it might be the most important stand that Americans have had to make since WWII.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by McSkillet

I would expect the fed to make one last gasp at controlling the thoughts of Americans by trying to regulate both radio and the internet.

There will be legislation, and it might be the most important stand that Americans have had to make since WWII.

I will add that there is no point in attempting to help the Socialists and Communists, but to help the JFK Dems and I's and anyone else who still believes in the Constitution to say the hell with both parties -- demand corruption wherever found to be ripped out of the Republic. Socialist and Communist ideas need to be exposed as the cancer they are, and for small government and Liberty to be the goal. If folks want to be Communists or Socialists fine, but I have an obligation to fight them with every breath. I want this debate in the open not under the cover of darkness, not by default, not by passing bills crammed with clauses at the last minute, by those who have not read it -- not by creating a crisis and tanking to dollar so Americans feel pressured to give up freedom for government safety.

[Seamus]

Government Approved News Network

Press Accuracy Ratings Hits Two Decade Low http://people-press.org/report/543/

[Mr.Meanie]

meh...who watches news on tv anymore? I don't know anyone besides my grandmother who watches tv to get her news. Almost everyone I know gets it on the internet, or DVR's any specific show they want to watch.

Not to mention cable news. Honestly...watching Beck, Hannity, Olbermann, etc spend hours per day only pushing their side's propaganda is tedious beyond words.

[bowtown]

Just another example of the dumbing down of America. Sensationalism in the form of Beck, O'Reilley, and the rest of Fox has a higher entertainment value than straight news. It gets people excited and riled up on both sides, but at the end of the day there are more and more idiots out there that actually believe it's something other than entertainment.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by bowtown

Just another example of the dumbing down of America. Sensationalism in the form of Beck, O'Reilley, and the rest of Fox has a higher entertainment value than straight news. It gets people excited and riled up on both sides, but at the end of the day there are more and more idiots out there that actually believe it's something other than entertainment.

Spoken like one who hasnt watched them --

Half the timewith Beck, he simply lets their own words speak, and when the media wont even attempt to cover another angle, I am grateful for a few voices out there willing to share some info, and let folks decide.

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by Bob

Spoken like one who hasnt watched them --

Half the timewith Beck, he simply lets their own words speak, and when the media wont even attempt to cover another angle, I am grateful for a few voices out there willing to share some info, and let folks decide.

I've watched them all... alot. It's hype and sensationalism. You actually belive that Beck gives a **** about America or anyone in it? Beck cares about running a circus that will make him millions of dollars, and he does it well. You can't begrudge him that, but you do have to recognize tht it can't actually ever be confused for "news." Now I'm not saying the mainstream news is much better these days, or this Joe Wilson crap would have gone away a long time ago. It's just symptimatic of a dumb content society who are more interested in getting riled up over lies, things that don't really matter, and transformers, instead of taking the time to really comprehend and think about things... something many have forgotten how to do or never learned in the first place.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by frerottenextelway

corporate media.

+1

[rastaman]

Originally Posted by McSkillet

I just call it Liberal media.

It is what it is, and everyone knows it. Theyre only kidding themselves anymore.

What do you call FAUX NEWS? Are they Liberal media as well?

[rastaman]

Originally Posted by Bob

I will add that there is no point in attempting to help the Socialists and Communists, but to help the JFK Dems and I's and anyone else who still believes in the Constitution to say the hell with both parties -- demand corruption wherever found to be ripped out of the Republic. Socialist and Communist ideas need to be exposed as the cancer they are, and for small government and Liberty to be the goal. If folks want to be Communists or Socialists fine, but I have an obligation to fight them with every breath. I want this debate in the open not under the cover of darkness, not by default, not by passing bills crammed with clauses at the last minute, by those who have not read it -- not by creating a crisis and tanking to dollar so Americans feel pressured to give up freedom for government safety.

Right now we have a Corporate-Facist cable news media which values entertainment more than providing unbiased news and investigative reporting. Real news was provided to the Public back in Walter Cronkites days as a real news anchor with a journalism background and degree. Now today all we see are Entertainers giving the news so as it brings in profits to the shareholders.

[rastaman]

Originally Posted by McSkillet

I would expect the fed to make one last gasp at controlling the thoughts of Americans by trying to regulate both radio and the internet.

There will be legislation, and it might be the most important stand that Americans have had to make since WWII.

Actually what you have witnessed are Corporations who own the media controlling the thoughts of Americans b/c they have monopolized both radio and the air waves.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

meh...who watches news on tv anymore? I don't know anyone besides my grandmother who watches tv to get her news. Almost everyone I know gets it on the internet, or DVR's any specific show they want to watch.

Not to mention cable news. Honestly...watching Beck, Hannity, Olbermann, etc spend hours per day only pushing their side's propaganda is tedious beyond words.

I think the range for the 3 networks is 5 million - to 8 million nightly, so more than 15 million nightly tune in for the government approved media. The number is smaller than it used to be, but still has an impact. I do think that many who continue to obtain their news using this method only are limiting their own access, and may just absorb it passively without questioning the info or possible agenda. I am just as concerned about what is not reported, vs what is given the passive masses.

[Bob]

[QUOTE=bowtown;2559307]I've watched them all... alot. It's hype and sensationalism. You actually belive that Beck gives a **** about America or anyone in it? QUOTE]

I do think he believes it, he believes in the radical notions outlined in the Constitution.

I think that the right and left circus is designed to distract and to get people at each other's throats, meanwhile the government can do what it wants, but with the R's and the D's chipping away. When Larry Craig gets busted in a stall some R's excuse it -- and when Acorn offices are ok with child protitution -- some Dems make excuses. In my opinion, that is what is at teh heart of what is wrong with America -- and 90% of the time Beck is spot on with those types of issues. If the old media would billing to look at "both sides" understanding that we are actually on the same side, and understanding their job, then Beck, Rush and the gang would have less of a platform -- I could just watch the news like I did years ago.

[Bronx33]

There is no such thing as mainstream news anymore remember when news anchors went and got their own stories and based an opinion on them, now they just read a script already set up for them and don't report half the shyt.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by rastaman

Right now we have a Corporate-Facist cable news media which values entertainment more than providing unbiased news and investigative reporting. Real news was provided to the Public back in Walter Cronkites days as a real news anchor with a journalism background and degree. Now today all we see are Entertainers giving the news so as it brings in profits to the shareholders.

I guess we can agree that Walter Conkite was a legit broker. By the way I liked Jennings too -- he used to keep a pocket size version of the Constution in his pocket at all times.

In the case of Beck -- he has NEVER claimed he is a journalist -- he's an opinion guy, who has been guilty of showing what Van Jones has said by Van Jones himself -- and now with Acorn, we see the same thing, and the old media as ususal attempting to control the flow of information by ignoring it, when they would be ALL OVER IT, if it served their politcal bias.

If others did their job, Fox would not have to over-report it.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

There is no such thing as mainstream news anymore remember when news anchors went and got their own stories and based an opinion on them, now they just read a script already set up for them and don't report half the shyt.

True there -- most are talking heads. Who is spoon feeding the talking heads?

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by Bob

I guess we can agree that Walter Conkite was a legit broker. By the way I liked Jennings too -- he used to keep a pocket size version of the Constution in his pocket at all times.

In the case of Beck -- he has NEVER claimed he is a journalist -- he's an opinion guy, who has been guilty of showing what Van Jones has said by Van Jones himself -- and now with Acorn, we see the same thing, and the old media as ususal attempting to control the flow of information by ignoring it, when they would be ALL OVER IT, if it served their politcal bias.

If others did their job, Fox would not have to over-report it.

Ya know what if all the other liberal biased news outlets would simply do their job and report all the news glenn becks ratings would drop liberal biased media is driving independents in droves to other news outlets, people want all the info so they can make a logical choice on issues not all people are dumb and it will be too late when and if they ever figure it out.

If you sit and watch MSNBC.ABC ect all night every night ( you are one uninformed person) on politics and that's the way they want it and sadly people think they really have an arguement and they don't even have all the facts on the subject.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by rastaman

What do you call FAUX NEWS? Are they Liberal media as well?

Fox news is the only right-leaning station out of how many news outlets? That's when you know theres a problem.

[Bronx33]

Clueless anchor...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...rsy-senate-vot

Don: Okay, here’s my news question. A Senate bill yesterday passes, cutting off funds to this group called ACORN. Now, we got that bill passed and we have the embarrassing video of ACORN staffers giving tax advice on how to set up a brothel with 13-year-old hookers. It has everything you could want – corruption and sleazy action at tax-funded organizations and it’s got government ties. But nobody’s covering that story. Why?

Gibson: HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. Uh. Uh. But my goodness, if it’s got everything including sleaziness in it, we should talk about it this morning.

Roma: This is the American way!

Gibson: Or maybe this is just one you leave to the cables.

Roma: Well, I think this is a huge issue because there’s so much funding that goes into this organization…

Gibson: I know we’ve done some stories about ACORN before, but this one I don’t know about...

Roma: Jake Tapper did some blogging on it. I know he’s blogged at least once on this scandal.

Gibson: You guys are uh really up on the website.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

Clueless anchor...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...rsy-senate-vot

Don: Okay, here’s my news question. A Senate bill yesterday passes, cutting off funds to this group called ACORN. Now, we got that bill passed and we have the embarrassing video of ACORN staffers giving tax advice on how to set up a brothel with 13-year-old hookers. It has everything you could want – corruption and sleazy action at tax-funded organizations and it’s got government ties. But nobody’s covering that story. Why?

Gibson: HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. Uh. Uh. But my goodness, if it’s got everything including sleaziness in it, we should talk about it this morning.

Roma: This is the American way!

Gibson: Or maybe this is just one you leave to the cables.

Roma: Well, I think this is a huge issue because there’s so much funding that goes into this organization…

Gibson: I know we’ve done some stories about ACORN before, but this one I don’t know about...

Roma: Jake Tapper did some blogging on it. I know he’s blogged at least once on this scandal.

Gibson: You guys are uh really up on the website.

I don't see how the MSM can ignore this any longer, and they're not. The NYT is covering it, albeit completely inadquately, the LA TImes has already called for their Director to step down, and I'm sure more to come. It really is silly how they've had to be virtually forced to cover the story while kicking and screaming all the while.

[Rohirrim]

Like I have said before, if you want real, objective news? Go to PBS... and try and stay awake. I kid. I consider Frontline to be the best in the business, though.